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The Doncaster meeting summed up the frustrations on betting . Last year the consolation mile and lincoln strongly favoured low drawn horses so concentrated on horses drawn low .What happens they all migrate over to join the high drawn horses negating the advantage ....On to Sunday first race . Hartswood drawn 18 won the first race but the young jockey took it all the way over to race on the other side of the track to win comfortably . Most of the other races on the straight track were won by low drawn horses as is the norm . The ground conditions were not that much different , so why did Saturdays runners desert the draw advantage they had ? Does nobody walk the course any more ?

Brentford , Everton , Bournemouth , Aston Villa , Liverpool...........5 fourtimers and an acca .

EW double Island Bridge 1605 Huntingdon and Fine Shot 1640 Huntingdon .

How do we all stand on this topic ?Anyone one know what happens in other sports i.e. Do they get paid elsewhere or is it just part of the job ? Would we actually miss these interviews or does it enhance the sport and how it`s perceived , would like to hear other peoples views . An alternative is for them to get paid but for the money to go into the injured jockeys fund .

More talking horses turned over today . Being told by the press/connections all week of how good Thats Nice ,Caldwell Potter and Chianti Classico were . All major disappointments .

Great ride by Laura Pearson on Sparks Fly . They made sure She didn`t get a soft lead on the front but She just sat 4th pulled the horse out and burnt them off with a telling turn of foot . Well done to all involved especially in staying loyal to the Jockey . Commiserations to all concerned with Tiffany in the German Group one , looked to have it in the bag , but the winner seemed to come from nowhere .

Must agree , but my policy on Sundays is to ignore British Racing and stick to France . Always guaranteed decent racing . A good few Listed races at Saint Cloud tomorrow .

Like the look of all 4 home teams in sundays premier league games . 4 trebles and acca .

Permed your top 3 in the 205 and 315 with Chianti Classico and 2 others in the big race . 3 times 3 times 3 = 27 i point trebles . Took prices winning treble paid 340 points on price taken . Thanks very much , your ratings are superb .

Preston , Cheltenham and Liverpool Treble . ..........Plymouth and Carlisle couldn`t beat anyone at the moment and the ref will undoubtably send off an Arsenal player for some trivial offence or other .

Why dont more people send their horses to Owen Burrows ? He must have the biggest percentage of Group winners from such a small string of horses around , who has He upset to not get owners knocking His door down to put their horses in His care ?

After years of low drawn horses winning at this meeting , first 3 in sprint drawn 16 , 17 and 20 . Backed 2 in the Balmoral both drawn low.......nightmare .

EW Treble 120 Trawlerman 155 Kinross 435 State Actor...........all well known mud lovers . Last year the first 4 home in the Balmoral were all drawn low , so apart from State Actor , Bopedro is a possible bet as well .

Me and some of the people in the betting shops see this every day and there is never an inquiry into any of it . There was one on Sunday had 3 runs and never beaten a horse .It was backed into 3-1 in its first handicap , but thankfully ran like a drain but someone somewhere thought they new something , but either way you would have the connections in for an explanation .

First thoughts for the Arc this weekend . Still think Al Riffa is the one after it`s demolition job in the German Group 1 last time . Look De Vega worries me though . All it`s wins were from the rear with a telling turn of foot .The Arc trial when it was well beaten , it made the running , was never touched with the whip and faded out of contention .Looks for all the world they just treated that race as a glorified racecourse gallop , will be backing both on the day if not before .

Going for Godwinson in the Cambridgeshire loves the soft and well drawn . The one i can`t have at any price is Roi De France , watched the Yarmouth race a couple of times and at no point did it look like it would win . In the perfect position all race and when the gap came didn`t quicken , in fact others in the race were finishing better . Think it`s just the Gosden factor making it so short . (Prepares to be shot down in flames as it bolts in ) !

So nothing in the Arc trials today to put me off my long time fancy for the race in Al Riffa . It blitzed the field on its first try at 12f in Germany , in a race that has produced Arc winners in the past .

Fully agree . He has so many horses going for the same prizes and you can tell by the Jockey bookings He has no idea which horse is the best , but huge congratulations to Sean Levey on his first classic , much deserved .Also brilliant ride from Tom Marquand on Economics on Saturday , kept August Rodin hemmed in and didn`t let any of the O`Brien horses get first run as all the other jockeys seem to do .

Been watching all the replays of the previous outings of the St Leger field and You Got To Me appeals at the prices . All it`s best work at 12f comes in the last furlong , it runs more like a stayer than a horse with a turn of foot , looked an EW steal , but now we are down to the dreaded 7 runners , will still have a bit on at the 6-1 available .

Just a thought on this weekends racing . Back in March on the first Saturday of the flat season Montaasib won the listed sprint and Charyn won the listed mile . Races usually that go to horses who their trainers know can`t quite hack it at group level . Now 5 and a bit months later they are both Group 1 winners . In all my years of watching racing i have never known the like !

1425 Haydock , particular keen on Waxing Gibbons .. David Menusier booked Holly Doyle at the 5 day stage which shows He means business . David Menusier has a few running in the TV races might just do them all in doubles /trebles etc......great work from the Brigadier again.......spot on summary of the 135 Ascot .

1640 Goodwood Calling the Wind is currently 12-1 , if it is half fit it would carry this lot . Hasn`t run in over a year , but was placed in nearly all the top handicaps over 2 miles when right , this is a huge drop in class on a track it acts on , a little ew wont go amiss.........lets hope they still have 8 runners when the race is run .

Quite correct , i would have given it back .The corporate big boys as you say are always on the look out to squeeze us punters . Was in the shop the other morning , racing was on from Hyderabad .Betting had two jt favs at 2-1 and 3rd fav at 3-1 .Commentator at the track gave betting as 2-1 fav , 5-2 2nd fav and 7-2 3rd fav . Undercutting all bar the fav . If you ever watch French racing in the shops they show the morning odds from France with the current odds from France underneath , the odds we are offered in the UK sometimes bear no comparison to the true odds available . The big bookies say they form their own markets now on foreign facing but they make sure they shorten up nearly every horse in the race .

5 20 at York Midnight Gun and Native Warrior both run for the Wathman stable , but much prefer the Karl Burke horse at 12-1 , seems to show a better turn of foot then his stable companion .

Oh no .......a front runners paradise again , nothings going to change , Asfooras team have to have a plan for the Nunthorpe , waiting tactics wont cut it .