jayalexander Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Right. If you can get a decent early price matched, go for it. If you want to take the sp then use the multiples facility to do this. Minimum bet on the multiples market is £2 (minimum 2 selections) and you don't pay commission if it wins. Drawn Gold had apprentice jockeys in his previous 3 outings. This time switched to the professional, Probert :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 75 - 28/6/10 Musselburgh 7:25 Silvanus 8:25 Park's Prodigy Pontefract 2:15 Call Of Duty +4 (Amateur) 2:45 Timintoul Star 4:15 Cheyenne Chant +2 Windsor 8:40 Dane Cottage +2 9:10 French Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites nice going jayalexander,top bet getting 22/1 for Drawn Gold:clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 75 - 28/6/10 Musselburgh 7:25 Silvanus 1st @ 7.09 8:25 Park's Prodigy 1st @ 4.68 Pontefract 2:15 Call Of Duty +4 (Amateur) 3rd 2:45 Timintoul Star 4:15 Cheyenne Chant +2 Windsor 8:40 Dane Cottage +2 9:10 French Art :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 76 - 29/6/10 Brighton 4:00 Mini Max 4:30 Dualagi Hamilton 3:35 Gritstone Stratford 7:40 Pilgrims Lane +3 Thirsk 6:30 Tillietudlem (Apprentice race) 7:30 Fantastic Strike 8:00 Redwater River +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Day 77 - 30/6/10 Catterick 4:00 Avitus +1 Chepstow 9:10 Carter +1 Kempton 6:20 La Fortunata 7:50 Helaku +1 8:50 Highland Legacy +2 Perth 3:50 Harry Flashman Worcester 4:10 Now This Is It +4 Stopped listing the high performer trainers for now. The improving ground may favour our selections if they ran recently :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 76 - 29/6/10 Brighton 4:00 Mini Max 4:30 Dualagi Hamilton 3:35 Gritstone 1st @ 2.0 Stratford 7:40 Pilgrims Lane +3 3rd Thirsk 6:30 Tillietudlem (Apprentice race) 1st @ 2.08 7:30 Fantastic Strike 8:00 Redwater River +2 The old first race and apprentice race does the trick again :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 78 - 1/7/10 Epsom 7:55 Glen Shiel +1 8:30 Royal Dignitary Haydock 2:00 Noche De Reyes +1 Newbury 6:30 Touch Of Style +2 (apprentice race) 8:10 Scarcity +1 Perth 2:50 Paddington Bob +3 Redcar 8:50 Hurlingham +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 77 - 30/6/10 Catterick 4:00 Avitus +1 3rd Chepstow 9:10 Carter +1 Kempton 6:20 La Fortunata 2nd 7:50 Helaku +1 NR 8:50 Highland Legacy +2 Perth 3:50 Harry Flashman 2nd Worcester 4:10 Now This Is It +4 1st @ 2.8 Stopped listing the high performer trainers for now. The improving ground may favour our selections if they ran recently :ok Potential, potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jayalexander Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Under 50 off the 5k views now. Stunned, but the proof is in the system! No winners or even placed today :\ although 3 system NRs mean that just 4 from the 7 ran, and 2 of those started as favs. :hope for a good one in the next day or two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 79 - 2/7/10 Beverley 9:00 Darcy's Pride Doncaster 5:15 Poppy's Rose Haydock 8:15 Escape Artist +2 9:20 Hulcote Rose Sandown 4:00 Laudatory 4:35 Verdant Warwick 3:10 Comptonspirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklyn Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites The ones which are highlighted in green are they the ones you are backing if they are not favos?! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in The Lakes Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Hi Jay, Well done with the thread. An observation or three! 1 You can edit your posts so as you have made quite a few changes to the system since inception why dont you edit post 1 to provide the updated rules/criteria? I was confused reading it as Franklyn (above post) also appears to be. 2 Have you looked at age as in my systems I exclude a lot of older horses who are less consistant as a rule. I find flat/aw 3-5, hurdles 4-8 and chasers 5-9 to be the best age groups. 3 Do your results allow for betfair commission on all winning bets? it's fairly standard on PL to use the highest rate of deduction namely 5%. This is applied to every bet with a return of course, the way betfair itself operates and not just the net profit on the day/week etc. Good Luck with future selections. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dices Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites A filter based on age .... I like it. Jamie places BFSP prices but in my results I have deducted 5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Thanks for the comments and interest in the system. Over the weekend I will update the first post with the rules as they are now. The only problem I have with introducing an age filter is that a big price may be missed. Perhaps the way to do it would be to vary stakes, but I want to keep it simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in The Lakes Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Hi, wasn't thinking that you would intro a filter straightaway but just keep a record of results to see if age makes a difference. I think its usually best to trial an ammendment to a system before implementation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites 2/7/10 - A rundown of the rules: - Maidens are not included (although a few may have slipped through the net) - Most Novice races are not included (80% of the field must have an OR) - Hunter Chases are not included - If a selection is Green, it means same distance or less - If a selection is Red, it means the distance is increasing from LTO. The + indicates how many furlongs. - A selection is considered Neutral if it has not ran in the last 100 days. I personally don't like backing these if they are favs once again (especially short favs) but am unsure as to whether simply not backing them at all compared to laying them/backing another selection will prove more profitable. For the purpose of the system (for now) all selections will be to back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 79 - 2/7/10 Beverley 9:00 Darcy's Pride Doncaster 5:15 Poppy's Rose Haydock 8:15 Escape Artist +2 9:20 Hulcote Rose Sandown 4:00 Laudatory 4:35 Verdant 1st @ 1.86 Warwick 3:10 Comptonspirit 1st @ 4.58 First race of the day does it. AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 80 - 3/7/10 Beverley 3:15 Amethyst Dawn Carlisle 6:55 Dark Moment (Apprentice race) Haydock 2:15 Berling 3:25 Almiqdaad +1 4:35 Global City 5:10 Hazlerigg Leicester 3:00 Bakongo 4:45 Pherousa Nottingham 6:10 Aragall (Amateur race) +1 8:10 Hawaana 8:40 Mushreq +2 9:10 Crocodile Bay Sandown 3:40 Lady Darshaan 4:15 Samuel 4:50 Eton Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 80 - 3/7/10 Beverley 3:15 Amethyst Dawn 3rd Carlisle 6:55 Dark Moment (Apprentice race) 2nd Haydock 2:15 Berling 3:25 Almiqdaad +1 4:35 Global City 5:10 Hazlerigg 1st @ 3.0 Leicester 3:00 Bakongo NR 4:45 Pherousa 2nd Nottingham 6:10 Aragall (Amateur race) +1 1st @ 2.17 8:10 Hawaana 2nd 8:40 Mushreq +2 1st @ 4.95 9:10 Crocodile Bay Sandown 3:40 Lady Darshaan 4:15 Samuel 4:50 Eton Forever Late results to follow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 81 - 4/7/10 Ayr 2:40 Spavento Brighton 4:00 Fire King 2nd Market Rasen 3:20 Bold Policy +2 4:20 Prophete De Guy NR 4:50 Morenito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 82 - 5/7/10 Bath 4:30 Golden Rock 5:00 Rainbow Six Newton Abbott 3:45 Beehawk (11yo) 4:15 Zafar +3 4:45 Post It 5:15 Watergate Windsor 6:40 Dr Hilary (Apprentice race) NR By day 100 I'll be looking at possibly not including selections that are 10yrs or older. I did notice earlier in the thread that they weren't providing winners and we'll follow through on that now. Rubbish results! Maybe it's the going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 83 - 6/7/10 Pontefract 4:00 Off Chance (14 runs in total, 4 wins, Fentiman jockeyed all, including this) Southwell 8:10 Chain Of Office 8:40 Benozzo Gozzoli Uttoxeter 8:20 Misamon Wolverhampton 2:45 Cavitie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 83 - 6/7/10 Pontefract 4:00 Off Chance (14 runs in total, 4 wins, Fentiman jockeyed all, including this) 1st @ 9.47 (Matched at 12.14) Southwell 8:10 Chain Of Office 8:40 Benozzo Gozzoli 3rd (Win matched @ 14.55, traded out for profit @ 6.8 before the race) Uttoxeter 8:20 Misamon Wolverhampton 2:45 Cavitie 2nd A decent day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 84 - 7/7/10 Catterick 4:30 Fathey +1 Kempton 6:20 Bilberry 7:50 Ultimate Quest 8:20 Resentful Angel +1 Worcester 7:10 You Can Of Course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayalexander Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 Re: Return of the beaten favourites Day 84 - 7/7/10 Catterick 4:30 Fathey +1 Kempton 6:20 Bilberry NR 7:50 Ultimate Quest 8:20 Resentful Angel +1 1st @ 10.75 Worcester 7:10 You Can Of Course Lovely jubbley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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