Royal Ascot - 21/06/08

[alexmac]

:cow AM going to Ascot today, should be a good day out, with some very decent looking races. Selections in here :ok

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 3.05 - SPANISH MOON Maraahel will be a popular choice to land the hat-trick in this race, but I think age may have caught up on him. No horses over the age of 6 have won this in the last 30 years, so he will have to buck that trend to win this. Seems to be the stables second string, with Ryan Moore opting to ride my selection, SPANISH MOON. He has an immense turn of foot, and showed this in his recent course and distance win over Munsef. It looks as if he will be very hard to beat tomorrow, and at approx 3/1, seems to be a decent bet.

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 3.45 - MARCHAND D'OR Last run at Chantilly he beat this weeks Kings Stand Winner Equianno. Seems to have pretty much everything going in his favour for this renewal of the Golden Jubilee. Put up some very decent performances last year, when injured - and the fact that he acts on any ground must also go in his favour. The race is obviously very open, and there are any number of possible winners - these include Seachange, US RAnger and Takeover Target. But in my opinion, MARCHAND D'OR may have too much class to beat these rivals tomorrow.

[Tipster5000]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Ok looks like you are :)

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 5.30 - HONOLULU Stamina has to be taken on trust, has he has never previously gone anywhere near this unique distance. Clearly has stacks of class, and with the stable firing on all cylinders he is the obvious choice to get ahead tomorrow in the Queen Alexandra. Bulwark is another top quality animal, who has the potential to cause an upset here, but with Johnny Murtagh in such a good vein of form, I am going to side with the Colmore runner to win this one.

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Looks like who is what?

[Tedthewolf]

Ascot Saturday 21/6/08 3.45 ASSERTIVE E/W 33/1 Horse is in good form and looks value bet since trainer and jock in such good form.A massive 50 on BF at the mo. 3.45 SOLDIER'S TALE E/W 28/1 Lightly raced 7yo and trainer has done very well with this horse who has long breaks between races indeed last run was a win here last year beating todays likely fav. A massive 40 on BF. 4.25 BEAVER PATROL 33/1 E/W Last few runs have been a bit disappointing usually better than that can bounce back a run a big race 5.00 NIGHT CRESCENDO 22/1 E/W Same Jock as my last horse. Only run here was a win at 10f. Should be spot on for this after two runs this year and if it gets the distance has a good chance.

[Tipster5000]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Sorry Alex just spotted your going tommorow.

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 :ok

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Have made a number of selections for tomorrow. Will no be backing the ones I have not written up - but if anyone happens to be interested: 2.30 - IMPERIAL GUEST 3.05 - SPANISH MOON 3.45 - MARCHAND D'OR 4.25 - KINGS APOSTLE, TOMBI 5.00 - MAD RUSH 5.30 - HONOLULU All the best for your selections tomorrow guys....

[richjlfc]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 My first post lol! I'm gonna bet on these three tommorrow... 3.05 - Spanish Moon 11/4 (Bet365) 3.45 - US Ranger 13/2 (Bet365) 5.35 - Honolulu 5/2 (Bet365)

[wxmsimon]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 3.05 - Multidimesional Currently trading around 50's on betfair, 40's with Laddies. Massively overpriced for me. I am willing to forgive Chester and Epson anyone can dislike those tracks, first run of season does not look so bad now behind Phoenix Towers. He was much the stronger fancied that day, and a repeat of run in last years champion stakes would most likely be good enough to win this very moderate hardwicke. To sum up at the price a maximum 10pt win and place for me. if he hadn't run (below par i agree) at specialist tracks he would be trading at less than his current place price on betfair for the win, One more chance for me on this more conventional track Remembering he is already a Black Type group 2 winner if his last 2 runs where true why continue and diminsh his value further, Henry feels he can still win at this level and above.

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[Jono333]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08

My first post lol! I'm gonna bet on these three tommorrow... 3.05 - Spanish Moon 11/4 (Bet365) 3.45 - US Ranger 13/2 (Bet365) 5.35 - Honolulu 5/2 (Bet365)

Thats a strange one, i certainly won't be backing him, haha. P.s Come on msn.

[SteveO]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 3.45 Takeover Target ew This horse is a superstar of the modern era. Has won over 2 million in prize money and has placed or won 27 times in 34 starts. That record is quite impeccable. Ran a cracker on Tuesday to get within 1/2 length of the winner to show he retains all his ability and all being well has to go close here.

[TheRat]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Reasoning for both of you would be great

[SteveO]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 3.05 Macarthur Used as a pacemaker more or less for Soldier of Fortune last time out but still ran a blinding race. That rating alone is good enough to win this. I think the main challenger will be Lucarno but that has a 5lb penalty.

[danmclovin]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 2.30 Dr Smart e/w 25/1 3.05 Maraahel e/w 9/1 3.45 Soldier's Tale e/w 22/1 4.25 Tamagin e/w 16/1 5.00 Furmigadelaguista e/w 18/1 5.35 Bahrain Storm e/w 18/1

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Any reason for these selections? Particularly FURMIGADELAGUISTA... I know the connections of this horse, and the owner is hoping for a good run... Interesting jockey booking today.

[Tipster5000]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Im backing it Alex.

[alexmac]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 What? Furmigadelaguista...?

[mowgli77]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08

My first post lol! I'm gonna bet on these three tommorrow... 3.05 - Spanish Moon 11/4 (Bet365) 3.45 - US Ranger 13/2 (Bet365) 5.35 - Honolulu 5/2 (Bet365)

Thats a strange one, i certainly won't be backing him, haha. P.s Come on msn.

2.30 Dr Smart e/w 25/1 3.05 Maraahel e/w 9/1 3.45 Soldier's Tale e/w 22/1 4.25 Tamagin e/w 16/1 5.00 Furmigadelaguista e/w 18/1 5.35 Bahrain Storm e/w 18/1

Firstly welcome to Punterslounge, please provide some reasoning with your selections otherwise they are quite useless to everyone else that is considering backing your selections. Have a look around at the rules at the top of the forum etc and feel free to join in with Best Bet Of The Day and other competitions. :ok

[mileni4uk]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 Gonna have a bit of fun here, but with very small stakes .. 2.30 Ascot - Free Agent This has to be a big price. I was expecting 2/1-9/4 and 11/4 with best odds guaranteed looks value. The horse will improve and will benefit from the step up in distance. Worth a nibble. Take 11/4 b365 or 3/1 Centrebet.

[mileni4uk]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 4.25 Ascot - Knot In Wood E/W This is the race the horse has being prepared for and is low enough in the weights to run a big race. Well supported as well. Was 16/1 when the odds were avialable early this week. 10/1 @ Boyle b.o.g.

[mileni4uk]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 5.00 Ascot - Night Crescendo E/W Very competitive race, but I think this one will go close. 1m2f winner on easy ground here in October but equally good form when beaten less than 2l into third behind classy Malt Or Mash in November. I took 28/1 last night, but waited to put it here, because it was 32's at Betfair. Cut to 20/1 eveywhere and on the exchanges as well. I think 25/1 is a value. 25/1 @ Canbet

[Willster]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 2.30@ Ascot

9(10)

22

Seaway 21

Put up a good speed figure on both outings, should be suited by the step up in trip. Finished 2nd to Himalya LTO, who finished 4th to Art Connisseur on Tuesday. Possibly needs to come on a little from that run and stable are due a winner at the meeting. :loon 2nd 3.05@ Ascot

8(8)

1/5-1

Spanish Moon 42

Looks an exciting middle distance prospect, Jockey trainer combination always respected. Nobody has better middle distance horses than Stoute. Impressive turn of foot LTO to win after being hampered and still last 2f out, can see this beast coming late and fast for the win.:clapRAN LIKE A BAG O SHITE 3.45@ Ascot

11(5)

214-34

US Ranger 38

Has always threatened to be an absolute superstar horse and thus far hasnt quite delivered, UNTIL NOW. Everything is right for this horse today I feel and should take the spoils today. Would probably have won LTO if wasnt drawn on the wrong side, has gd draw today next to the fancied horses and I'm not giving up on this horse today. O brien team in great form as always and Johnny will boot this beast home for the WIN.:clap 4.25@ Ascot

8(15)

00-338

>Fullandby 28

19(3)

03-739

Something 22

Minefield of a race and these are my 2 against the field. Fullandby loves a fast pace and big fields, always runs a solid race. Something is a typical Nicholls plot horse and should go well from good draw.;) 5.00 @ Ascot

8(4)

746-41

Proponent 48

A slow improving type for trainer R Charlton. Steps up 3f from last run today, ground will suit and jockey in form, trainer already had big winner here this week. Has run well in defeat to some good sorts notably PIPEDREAMER & LANG SHINING and will go well at a price. 5.35@ Ascot

2(3)

4414-3

Distinction 52

A horse I have always liked, no doubts on stamina, likes the track, going will suit and a formidable jock/trainer combo. At the prices I'm willing to take on the fav with Distinction my selection. I have place my hard earned on all of these selections. £5ew on both in the Wokingham £10 win all other selections Good luck to all today. :cheers Willster

[bowles10]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 2.30 Chesham stakes 9 of the last 10 winners had 1 previous run & 7 of those were winners. The race has prorduced 3 favs in 10 years. All of those 10 winners had run within the last 35 days. The only horse that qualifies is FREE AGENT a 5L winner on debut at leicester. 3.05 Hardwicke Stakes The coronation cup at Epsom is sometimes a good pointer to this race with 7 of the last 10 winners having run in that race prior to this. Maraahel is on a hat trick of wins but no 7yo has won in 10 years & Maraahel's trainers decision to run in the Brigadier gerrard stakes instead of Epsom indicates to me that the trip may now be on the stiff side. Only Macarthur & MUltidimensional ran in the Epsom race with the former trying to nick the race setting a very fast pace. That could make it vulnerable today to a thorough stayer however the 2L defeta by Soldier of fortune with Getaway behind in 4th looks top form. Lucarno will prefer this trip more than the sandown race where it needed the run & i can that placing today. For the winner, I will side with MACARTHUR to extend O'briens great run this week. 3.45 Golden Jubilee stakes 3 of the last 4 winners at Ascot ran 4 days prior in the Kings Stand stakes, 2 are going that route Kingsgate Native & Takeover Target. The latter finished 2nd in that race & can see it going close again today with this race suiting its style better. Favourites have a poor record & with no wins in 10, Sakhee's secret wont be holding my money. The dante meeting at York can hold the key to this race with US RANGER having been badly drawn finished a close up 4th to Assertive but surely would have won or at least 2nd if the draw bias hadnt been so evident. Drawn down the near side today, there will be no excuses for the O'brien horse & the odds of around 7/1 look decent ew value 4.25 Wokingham Ignore those drawn down the middle of the track as the draw normally plays a part with horses drawn 6 from either rail having the best of the race. 9 of the last 10 winners had finished 4th or better in their previous run. Not an ideal betting race for me but 3 against the field ew would be NOTA BENE 14/1, TAMAGIN 20/1 & BIG TIMER 40/1. 5.00 Duke of Edinburgh The favourites stat of 1 in 10 doesnt hold much hope but MAD RUSH looked a horse to follow for this season, staying on strongly to be beaten a nk by Punjabi at Newmarket over same trip. Roger Charlton won one of the big handicaps during the week & my saver would go on his one PROPONENT who may be another improver but stepping up in trip today.

[devil tish]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08

2.30 Chesham stakes 9 of the last 10 winners had 1 previous run & 7 of those were winners. The race has prorduced 3 favs in 10 years. All of those 10 winners had run within the last 35 days. The only horse that qualifies is FREE AGENT a 5L winner on debut at leicester. 3.05 Hardwicke Stakes The coronation cup at Epsom is sometimes a good pointer to this race with 7 of the last 10 winners having run in that race prior to this. Maraahel is on a hat trick of wins but no 7yo has won in 10 years & Maraahel's trainers decision to run in the Brigadier gerrard stakes instead of Epsom indicates to me that the trip may now be on the stiff side. Only Macarthur & MUltidimensional ran in the Epsom race with the former trying to nick the race setting a very fast pace. That could make it vulnerable today to a thorough stayer however the 2L defeta by Soldier of fortune with Getaway behind in 4th looks top form. Lucarno will prefer this trip more than the sandown race where it needed the run & i can that placing today. For the winner, I will side with MACARTHUR to extend O'briens great run this week. 3.45 Golden Jubilee stakes 3 of the last 4 winners at Ascot ran 4 days prior in the Kings Stand stakes, 2 are going that route Kingsgate Native & Takeover Target. The latter finished 2nd in that race & can see it going close again today with this race suiting its style better. Favourites have a poor record & with no wins in 10, Sakhee's secret wont be holding my money. The dante meeting at York can hold the key to this race with US RANGER having been badly drawn finished a close up 4th to Assertive but surely would have won or at least 2nd if the draw bias hadnt been so evident. Drawn down the near side today, there will be no excuses for the O'brien horse & the odds of around 7/1 look decent ew value 4.25 Wokingham Ignore those drawn down the middle of the track as the draw normally plays a part with horses drawn 6 from either rail having the best of the race. 9 of the last 10 winners had finished 4th or better in their previous run. Not an ideal betting race for me but 3 against the field ew would be NOTA BENE 14/1, TAMAGIN 20/1 & BIG TIMER 40/1. 5.00 Duke of Edinburgh The favourites stat of 1 in 10 doesnt hold much hope but MAD RUSH looked a horse to follow for this season, staying on strongly to be beaten a nk by Punjabi at Newmarket over same trip. Roger Charlton won one of the big handicaps during the week & my saver would go on his one PROPONENT who may be another improver but stepping up in trip today.

nice writeup bowles:clap i agree with us ranger, i have waded into this one pretty large today, lets hope he is good enough

[devil tish]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 425 wokingham 6f dark islander 40/1 boylesports e/w great e/w value bet for the wokingham in dark islander. drawn not too badly in stall 18. well overpriced for a horse that has been running in better company than this. has good winning form on gf at 7f which is a big plus for me in these big 6f handicaps. maybe a good one to back in running, as not expecting to hear his name until they hit the furlong pole(lol probably to say he has just been pulled up hehe).

[willie82]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 I notice a lot of you boys fancy US Ranger in the 3:05, does nobody fancy merchand D'or?

[WoodyTHFC]

Re: Royal Ascot - 21/06/08 2.30 Free Agent 25 pts 14/5 spo Queens runner who left a good impression lto on debut, won cosily that day over a horse who ran creditibly in the listed race earlier in the week and the abdullah horse who ive already talked about. Should come on for that first run and appreciate the trip, derby entered for the future. 3.05 Spanish moon 25 pts 3/1 var Speed Gifted 12.5 pts e.w 7/1 var. tough race as I like Macarthur who should have won the leger last year and ran well last two starts but two possible improvers here. the stoute horse has already had a big reputation and was visually impressive lto, won only a length or so but could have been so much more and did well to overcoming trouble in running, only fourth start today so lots of improvement possible still. Speed gifted is another interesting one. Very impressive at york towards the end of last season and really looked a group horse in the amking of connections wanted to go that way, could have gone ebor route, yet in listed race lto finished well, did hang right but that may have been a bit of keeness for its first run of the season, clearly has the talent and today we see how much. 3.45 Sahkees Secret 12.5 pts e.w 9/2 bog, Marchand dor 12.5 pts e.w 11/2 bog and Balthazaars Gift 20/1 7.5 pts e.w ALL 4 places, sometimes lesser prices taken. Sahkees Secret is seemingly ground dependent and needs it dry but undoubtedly is a class act, improved a lot last season from handicap/listed into group 1 july cup win where he travelled so so well, struggled after that on possibly softer ground then it should have been, either way a class act last year and first run this year with penalty ran well over shorter 5f, this is more his trip today. The french horse is a late inclusion, wasnt going to back him as looking back last year he was good but just lacking top top class but re appearance was very good under penalty over shorter and form boosted so much on tue., reportedly improved this year for overcoming slight injury last season and judging by last season he didnt have to improve by much. Balthazaars gift loves ascot which is very significant on the stright course, has a top record on the course and nearly won this race two years back, needs a few runs each year to get going and seemingly has now afetr ok run on wrong side at yorka nd late win at win. lto, likes big fields too. 4.25 Abraham Lincoln 9/1 bog 12.5 pts e.w, Knot in Wood 10/1 bog 12.5 pts e.w and Lippoco 11/1 bog 12.5 pts e.w all 5 places again slightly less price taken at times. O'Brien interestingly sends a runner for a handicap and that in itself could be significant, abraham lincoln ran quite well over 5f given easy time in group 1 on tue. and seems to be going the right way, second before in listed race was good as was effort in group 2 here last year, knot in wood just ahead. Knot in wood could possibly be better with some cut as he showed with one devestating example last season when beating protector up north, ran well too in stewards cup which was quicker and same mark today, probably had this race in mind after disappointing effort in it last year tbh, ran lto over inadequte 5f was slightly eye cathcing. Lippoco has bags of pace and ability, possibly not the strongest finisher which is a concern but showed good recent form in lised race when my jubilee fancy only just got up late to beat it and top weight today was behind that day. 5.00 Mad rush 3/1 25 pts var Ezdiyaad 11/1 spor 12.5 pts e.w Mad rush is a nice sort who has been a bit unlucky on his last three runs arguably, bumped into three horses all of whom who have proved they were well in, the two it lost two last season are now 19 pounds and 27 pounds higher which says something and punjabi who it made late progress behind lto as moore got slightly troubled journey just to lose, won lto, still quite lighty raced and probably set out for this by trainer, rise in weights from lto might not be enough. Ezdiyaad might not run if there is no rain, he is a huge horse, denman style horse, I see him win good hq maiden last year, bankable behind, and he has gone on with two nice wins so far this season and shapes as though trip will suit and another going teh right way, bit concerned about the ground though as may need softer. 5.35 Enjoy the Moment 12.5 pts e.w 7/1 i wouldnt describe him as the best horse in this race as o'brien and cecil's horses have much more talent in my eyes but what we do know is that he gets this trip, he won this race last year and its just possible that by the last race it could be softer, certainly looks like its heading that way from looking at he clouds and if it does this will be a real stamina test and play to this ones strength for a trainer who has come close this week.