Hooloovoo Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Real madrid has 4-1 against Levante after 55', another goal is 1.13, incredibly tempting to go for it, that would make my treble-bank-target at once. It's so easy to think that "There must be another goal, RM are destroying Levante". But that is not the thinking that has brought me this far :unsure Discipline discipline discipline discipline discipline discipline :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Real madrid has 4-1 against Levante after 55', another goal is 1.13, incredibly tempting to go for it, that would make my treble-bank-target at once. It's so easy to think that "There must be another goal, RM are destroying Levante". But that is not the thinking that has brought me this far :unsure Discipline discipline discipline discipline discipline discipline :( Shame that you didn't play the next goal, seeing as there were 2 goals scored before the final whistle. Still guess that if you're unsure the best way is not to bet. If you do you end up kicking yourself if the bet goes wrong and you think about how you knew that you had doubts anyway. Sure you miss winners along the way but chances are you'll also miss losers too. All the best for your next bet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnesstiger Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! The 1.03 price on Real Madrid to score a goal looks very over-priced looking back at the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Well the game ended 5-2, so the "next goal" bet should have been a winner. And for me, the bet that RM would score at all would have been a great pre-ko-bet. But that kind of bet really does not fit into my strategy, as i mentioned before, i don't want to rely on something that must happen, at least not when it comes to football (tennis or icehockey is different). The worst bet in terms of deodorant expenses was the James Bond bet (# 007) :) In that bet it was a must that CZ scored and as the followers of this thread recall it was a real sweat before the final whistle. Anyway, thanks for the support and the tips...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Have been thinking about the banking strategy. I will deffo bank 500 if and when i get to 1500 as stated in post # 1, but from there i am not as certain, maybe there are banking strategies that would be more optimal for this GH. It's a matter of risk taking of course, but maybe some sort of progressive banking would be the better choice here? I picture that it will be bloody nerv-wrecking when i get that 1000 up to say 2700, and only have 500 banked away. Any input would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Accumulator Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Great to see your still going mate , mines paused while i transfer funds and its taking a few days:wall.............. Had to withdraw funds to avoid a bankcharge ,and now gota put them back in :wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnesstiger Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! On the banking side of things, I think you would be wise to bank 500SEK when you get to it (you WILL get it!). As for any further banking, I think in true GH style, you should go for it until you have a sizeable bank before banking any more, otherwise you may never reach the dizzy heights of a 'high-roller'!! :) Good luck mate, you really are doing well with this one. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! I see your getting nervous trying to get your last bet. I admire the way you have kept your discipline though. Just choose your own bets and Best of luck. As for banking, I would actually bank half of it so I was in profit whatever, but its up to you. It all depends on your circumstances at the end of the day. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Thanks for the input guys! Some different views on the banking issue, just like i wanted it :) I will continue to think about possible modifications to the original banking strategy. I'll get it to 1500 first and take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! (018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! St Mirren v Rangers 0-3 :nana Was thinking about this bet all day long, there were alot of pros and a few cons, but in the end i firmly believed Rangers would grab the last straw, they still have a slim chance at the title (001) Roma to bt Atalanta @ 1.02 when 2-0 in 72' 509.50 (002) Sevilla to bt Betis @ 1.03 when 2-0 in 73' 524.31 (003) Vejle BK to beat or draw against AB Kobenhavn @ 1.12 579.14 (004) USA to bt Norway @ 1.16 667.17 (005) Mjällby v Örgryte, under 4.5 goals @ 1.06 when 0-1 in 48' 705.20 (006) Bristol City v Crystal Palace, under 4.5 goals @ 1.05 when 0-1 in HT 738.70 (007) Crvena Zvezda to bt Budocnost Banat Dvor @ 1.13/1.14 835.04 (008) Canada to bt Norway @ 1.03 858.84 (009) Spartak Moscow v Saturn Moscow, under 2.5 @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 73' 883.32 (010) Federer to bt Verdasco @ 1.04 when 6-3, 1-1 916.89 (011) Djokovic to bt Montanes @ 1.03 when 6-2, 40-40 943.02 (012) Nadal to bt Moya @ 1.04 when 4-1 978.85 (013) Canada to bt Sweden @ 1.22 when 1-0 in 1st period, 15' 1183.43 (014) Federer to bt Seppi @ 1.07 1262.13 (015) Cardiff v Portsmouth, under 3.5 goals @ 1.02 when 0-1 in 73' 1286.11 (016) Finland to bt Sweden @ 1.02 when 3-0 in 3rd period, 7' 1310.55 (017) Numancia v Alaves, under 2.5 goals @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 70' 1347.90 (018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 1450.34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Nice one :clap Why not bank half now and continue with whats left.. Reason I say this is that you have the 1500 figure in your head and I always find that its always hard to cross the 'finish line'. Your enough at your target, so bank :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Nice one :clap Why not bank half now and continue with whats left.. Reason I say this is that you have the 1500 figure in your head and I always find that its always hard to cross the 'finish line'. Your enough at your target, so bank :ok Cheers mate :) Thanks for the input, that makes it 2 for "bank half now", and 1 for "keep your original strategy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Accumulator Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Regarding banking ,do what you feels right , we dont know your financial situation and it all depends on that really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Thanks for the input Mr A, i will take it to 1500 and then decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! No bets for today, nothing i fancy :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! (019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal when 0-1 in 72' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! (019) Slovakia v Turkey' date= Under 3.5 goal @ 1.03 when 0-1 in 72' odds :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Slovakia v Turkey 0-1 :nana Yes i said there would be no bets tonight, but then i saw this match live on Betfair video, and fancied the under 3.5 bet (001) Roma to bt Atalanta @ 1.02 when 2-0 in 72' 509.50 (002) Sevilla to bt Betis @ 1.03 when 2-0 in 73' 524.31 (003) Vejle BK to beat or draw against AB Kobenhavn @ 1.12 579.14 (004) USA to bt Norway @ 1.16 667.17 (005) Mjällby v Örgryte, under 4.5 goals @ 1.06 when 0-1 in 48' 705.20 (006) Bristol City v Crystal Palace, under 4.5 goals @ 1.05 when 0-1 in HT 738.70 (007) Crvena Zvezda to bt Budocnost Banat Dvor @ 1.13/1.14 835.04 (008) Canada to bt Norway @ 1.03 858.84 (009) Spartak Moscow v Saturn Moscow, under 2.5 @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 73' 883.32 (010) Federer to bt Verdasco @ 1.04 when 6-3, 1-1 916.89 (011) Djokovic to bt Montanes @ 1.03 when 6-2, 40-40 943.02 (012) Nadal to bt Moya @ 1.04 when 4-1 978.85 (013) Canada to bt Sweden @ 1.22 when 1-0 in 1st period, 15' 1183.43 (014) Federer to bt Seppi @ 1.07 1262.13 (015) Cardiff v Portsmouth, under 3.5 goals @ 1.02 when 0-1 in 73' 1286.11 (016) Finland to bt Sweden @ 1.02 when 3-0 in 3rd period, 7' 1310.55 (017) Numancia v Alaves, under 2.5 goals @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 70' 1347.90 (018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 1450.34 (019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal @ 1.03 when 0-1 in 72' 1491.67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnesstiger Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Creeping closer to the 1500 mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Creeping closer to the 1500 mark! Yep, but i will definitely not take just any 1.01 bet and go for it. It will be a "certain" winner, could be 1.01, could be 1.15, we'll see :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kef4o Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Great going! You know, it is like seeing myself betting, we have very similar preferencies towards bets. I also cannot see 1+ as a safe bet. About withdrawing, my advice is the following: Stick to a particular sum you would be happy with when withdrawing. Example: you have almost trpiled your bank and decided to cash out 500 euro. that leaves you with 1000 euro. Try to double your bank, then withdraw 500 euro and continue. From 1500 euro, try to reach 2500 euro, then withdraw 500 euro etc. I think the best part is that you decrease the risk every time you reach the next target. Edit: What was the coef you took the under in Trukey-Slovenia at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Great going! You know' date=' it is like seeing myself betting, we have very similar preferencies towards bets. I also cannot see 1+ as a safe bet. About withdrawing, my advice is the following: Stick to a particular sum you would be happy with when withdrawing. Example: you have almost trpiled your bank and decided to cash out 500 euro. that leaves you with 1000 euro. Try to double your bank, then withdraw 500 euro and continue. From 1500 euro, try to reach 2500 euro, then withdraw 500 euro etc. I think the best part is that you decrease the risk every time you reach the next target.[/quote'] Cheers mate, thanks for the input :) First, my currency is not euro, it is SEK (SwEdish Krona). £1 is roughly 12 SEK. Although i wish it was euro :loon I really like your idea of decreasing the risk-taking in stages. That means that the biggest risks is taken in the beginning, when the bank is small, and you are more careful about the bank the larger it gets. It also means that reaching that particular sum (say 500 SEK) will require fewer and fewer bets the higher we go. Increase the bank with 1000, split it and bank 500 and add 500 to the "working bank". Excellent stuff. I will take this under serious consideration after getting to that 1500 mark. I don't get this, what is coef? If you mean odds then it was 1.03 as stated in a second quoted post directly after the first :unsure Edit: I see now that the odds was missing from bet 019 in the summary post, i have added it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! ...or is it really a decrease in risk? You will bank away a smaller and smaller percentage of the bank, leaving the working bank bigger and bigger (and it is the working bank that is at risk all the time). I guess one have to find a compromise between banking as much as possible (for safety reasons) and letting the working bank grow as much as possible (to increase the winnings). The jury is still out, got to work on this at the almighty Excel to find a balance that is perfect for me :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! (020) Krung Thai Bank to bt Beijing Guon @ 1.01 when 4-0 in 64' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Krung Thai Bank v Beijing Guon, 5-3 :nana A little closer than i would have expected but still: Target reached, bank trebled...!!! And 20 winners on the trot! :nana :cow :nana :cow :nana :cow :nana (001) Roma to bt Atalanta @ 1.02 when 2-0 in 72' 509.50 (002) Sevilla to bt Betis @ 1.03 when 2-0 in 73' 524.31 (003) Vejle BK to beat or draw against AB Kobenhavn @ 1.12 579.14 (004) USA to bt Norway @ 1.16 667.17 (005) Mjällby v Örgryte, under 4.5 goals @ 1.06 when 0-1 in 48' 705.20 (006) Bristol City v Crystal Palace, under 4.5 goals @ 1.05 when 0-1 in HT 738.70 (007) Crvena Zvezda to bt Budocnost Banat Dvor @ 1.13/1.14 835.04 (008) Canada to bt Norway @ 1.03 858.84 (009) Spartak Moscow v Saturn Moscow, under 2.5 @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 73' 883.32 (010) Federer to bt Verdasco @ 1.04 when 6-3, 1-1 916.89 (011) Djokovic to bt Montanes @ 1.03 when 6-2, 40-40 943.02 (012) Nadal to bt Moya @ 1.04 when 4-1 978.85 (013) Canada to bt Sweden @ 1.22 when 1-0 in 1st period, 15' 1183.43 (014) Federer to bt Seppi @ 1.07 1262.13 (015) Cardiff v Portsmouth, under 3.5 goals @ 1.02 when 0-1 in 73' 1286.11 (016) Finland to bt Sweden @ 1.02 when 3-0 in 3rd period, 7' 1310.55 (017) Numancia v Alaves, under 2.5 goals @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 70' 1347.90 (018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 1450.34 (019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal @ 1.03 when 0-1 in 72' 1491.67 (020) Krung Thai Bank to bt Beijing Guon @ 1.01 when 4-0 in 64' 1505.84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kef4o Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Numerical example: number in brackets is the total odds you would have to generate with your bets. Starting bank 100 Goal 300 (3); withdraw 100; profit 0 Bank 200 Goal 400 (2); withdraw 100; profit 100 Bank 300 Goal 500 (1.66); withraw 100; profit 200 Bank 400 Goal 600 (1.5); withdraw 100; profit 300 Bank 500 Goal 700 Let's say you fail here. You have 300 net profit. If you were to let everything in, you would have increased your starting bank almost 15 times. But if you don't withdraw in a case of a failure you are in loss of 100. The bad thing about this is that you never know which bet will lose. I don't know how long have you been playing but I can say that I have seen everything after I lost "lay 7 goals" in a game which needed to see 2 goals in injury time to make my bet a losing one. And just like you I had played it live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! Thanks for the example Kef! The only thing i know for sure is that i will bank away 500 SEK. (I will not "cash out"/withdraw, the money will still remain in the system but not in the working/running bank) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! So, time to summarize the story so far! It has been fun so far, and not so difficult as i expected at first. Discipline has once again shown to be the key to success. Not rushing into anything just to make the quick buck. I have also felt much better about my bets when i had the chance to watch the matches live before placing the bets, you get a better feel for it. I will bank away 500 SEK and continue with the rest. I still haven't decided about the banking strategy, we'll see later! Number of bets: 20 Events watched live pre-bet: 12 Highest odd: 1.22 Lowest odd: 1.01 Average odd: 1.061 Number of days: 11 Avg bets per day: 1.8 Safe bank: 500 SEK Running bank: 1005.84 Total bank: 1505.84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Re: Simply as many winners as possible! (021) Davydenko to bt Isner @ 1.03 when 3-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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