Usa - Mls 2008/9

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 That's why I took the San Jose win at long odds above laying LA - the element of the unknown making it worth a punt at the longer odds but without much outlay....... As I posted before always the chance of them being outclassed, but thought it was worth a punt :( Just goes to show that pre-season counts for nowt, San Jose working hard but pretty much outgunned. Interestingly a home team is yet to taste defeat this season - this hasn't been a particularly big trend in previous years, so may just be pure coincidence.

[DM99]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Yeah, maybe the best course of action would be to wait three-four weeks into the season so you can get a bit of a feel for how the games play out, key players whose injuries will really affect the team, etc. Or maybe just skip the whole thing if they're going to play like a bunch of muppets :puke

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Better showing so far this second half lol

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 No, I know the players and the league well enough. But San Jose are unknown quantities even for the most ardent student of the MLS.......... this is their first competitive game together, although they looked good in a semi-competitive pre-season comp. Still expected better than this, but I like this league from a betting point of view. ;)

[davidmphill]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Game took a turn when San Jose had their goal chalked off for offside, never was for me. 4 home games in a row gives this over hyped team a chance to put am early season marker down.

[DM99]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 San Jose was getting better as the game went on, but never really got anyone free to take a shot. I don't think they really recovered from the two crappy LA goals in the first half. Those coupled with the disallowed goal..... Kaiser, you can't judge a system by one match! Keep at it amigo!

[Xcout]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Indeed San Jose first competitive match with that starting eleven, I prefer to wait how those players reach understandment between each other. Me to I expect La Galaxy to loss due to some of their key players out, but it seems that San Jose needs a lot more work. I sense next round San Jos and LA Galaxy to loss.

[keyshawn]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 So far home teams are 9-2-0 with an amazing 19-2 goal differential in this league. With that said, the 2 home teams that stick out for me this weekend are: KC +105 Chivas -222 Not sold on Colorado. They are a different team away from the altitude. Chivas at home should take care of RSL.

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 There are two matches, which judging from the results in previous seasons, as well as the early home dominance here, appear to be absolute bankers. However, it is worth noting some negatives too. DC United vs Toronto DC are undoubtidly one of the MLS' better teams, and last season they picked up Supporters Shield honours for finishing with the most points at the end of the regular season. They also posted a fantastic home record, and were one of the league's highest scoring teams. Boasting the likes of Gallardo, Emillio, Fred and Moreno in attack, they should beat Toronto and beat them comfortably......... see the previous page's post on the Toronto away record. Whilst DC will be keen to get their first victory of the season in the bag, it is worth noting that they played in the CCC on Wednesday, going down 2-0 away in Mexico to Pachua, and with the second leg to be played midweek, it's worth checking what team they're putting out before betting. Initial reccomendation of 3 points DC win at 1.5 with Totesport ----- to be confirmed upon satisfactory team news. Chivas USA vs RSL As Keyshawn posted before, Chivas also look to be a home banker....... they were pretty imperious on their own turf last season and posted an impressive record of 10-4-1. Was relatively impressed with RSL's opening day display against Chicago, where they continued to play attractively on the ground despite the away side's negative tactics, and they can count themselves unlucky not to come away with a win, after Blanco scored a dramatic equaliser in stoppage time. Kries has promised that his team will continue to play the positive passing football that they attempted in the Chicago match, and would be looking to bounce back against Chivas. Whilst I don't think he'll go gung-ho, I do believe that this might be a fairly free-flowing attacking game, but here they'll be playing Chivas at their own game, and very few teams are able to better them. Chivas created plenty of chances but could only take 1 in a 1-1 draw away at Dallas, Galindo coming off the bench to score late. But they dominated the stats and will feel relatively content with that first round performance. They do, however, have some fitness issues, with neither Razov or Galindo yet 100% and so not completely sure to start. And as such my bet selection will also have to depend on the team they name. Over 2.5 goals interests me here at around evens, but Chivas' high rate of clean-sheets at home last season, dissuades me slightly. Initial selection Chivas 3 points at 1.58 with Betfred ------ Confirmation of bet on team news.

[keyshawn]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 I am loving the NY-Columbus line. I think Columbus is by far the better team. This might be the first away win of the season in the league. NY's back line is awful - and they are only playing with 3 in the back. Their mid-field is almost as bad - they lost their best midfielder in preseason and Reyna is well past his "sell by" date. The one thing they have going for them is Angel-Altidore upfront. But, with Altidore away w/the US Oly team, they've barely trained together and the team has looked very bad in preseason. Then, on Thursday, Altidore got hurt in practice and the manager has said he won't play him if he's not 100%. He was limping at practice on Friday, so I dont think its likely he'll be in the lineup. Columbus is an underrated side and with a game under their belt already have that advantage too. Last year, they had a tendency to play for the draw on the road, hopefully they have enough confidence to go for the kill this year against a weak NY side. Add to the fact that a 3/4's empty Giants stadium does little to give NY a home field advantage and I'll take: Columbus Pk +175 **** Columbus ML +270 **** Over 2.5 -105 ** KC's odds have dropped to -120, but I still think they get the job done vs Colorado. Lopez is looking good and this KC team looks like they will be a contender this year. Colorado was tough to beat at home, but terrible on the road last year and last weeks 4-0 win at home isn't indicative of how this team will play away from home IMO. KC -105 **** Chivas should roll as long as Galindo and/or Razov is on the field. Chivas -1 120 ** Chivas -220 ** With those last 2 games, not only are the home teams the better teams IMO, but I'm also a fan of opposing high altitude teams away from home almost as much as I like taking them at home. Might take a shot at the over in this one as well.

[FinLandiaFish]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Kansas City Wizards - Colorado Rapids Colorado coming of a 4-0 win over LA Galaxy and Kansas City from 2-0 victory over the defending champs DC United. I think Kansas' win is far more impressive and just shows how ready they are from the beginning of the season. Colorado is a good home team but on road they are just average. I don't know about the 1x2 but I decided to jump heavily on Kansas City to score, should be an easy +2k for me. Some stats to back it up: *Colorado is 3-13-3 visiting Kansas (just shows how bad they are on road) *Kansas City has scored a goal in the same matchup 15 games in a row. That record is from last eight seasons played, can't see that one ending tonight. * Results from last three seasons: 2-2, 4-1, 3-2 (same matchup) The defending Champs got pounded by two and Kansas loves to play against Colorado, expect an open game like the history shows. Would be surprised to see Kansas to to score less than two tonight but ofcourse one is fine for me :) Kansas City Wizards to score @1.19 :hope Weak price but über stakes = I smell money :drums

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 I think that I'm going to jump on the KC Bandwaggon at nice odds of 2.1 or +110 in US terms with Stan James. Keyshawns point about altitude teams away from home seems to be backed up stats wise for this one, with Kansas' 14-3-3 in this fixture at home. They play positive, attacking football, and with the likes of Lopez, Marenelli and Trujio - awful spelling - they should create plenty. KC could be this year's suprise team, and I certainly believe that they will be a better team without EJ - as their game was too centred around him, and 'making him feel good about his game'. I'd also expect there to be goals here too. But I'm happy enough to go with the KC win here. KC to beat Colorado - 2.5 points at 2.1 Stanjames.

[FinLandiaFish]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Hehe.. seems like KC is the team to back tonight, or atleast it has many backers whether it should be done or not. Hopefully they don't dissapoint us then, though truthfully can't see myself losing the home team to score bet.. just seems so idiotproof. KC ends up with 0 goals and I'm gonna go mental after Reyes just pitched Washington to 4 runs in 9th inning thus ruining my beautiful RL bet :rollin

[FinLandiaFish]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 0-0 HT and now I'm wondering what the fck is going on with Kansas all the sudden. One shot (on goal) and one corner during the whole first half. Would be nice to know what the hell are they doing there :puke

[FinLandiaFish]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Kansas 1-0 60th minute Money, money, money :loon :cheers

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Kansas won 3-2........ goal in the 87th minute or there abouts, after blowing a 2-0 lead. Never in doubt. ;)

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Suprised by a change or two to the Toronto lineup, and there line-up actually looks pretty positive...... so I'm going for the over 2.5 goals option on Bdaq for 2 points at 1.9. So that's DC 3 points at 1.5 Over 2.5 goals 2 points at 1.9. Also gone for 0.5 points on Columbus at 4.2 Betdaq.

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 2-0 DC after about 4 minutes :rollin

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Columbus 2-0 down though, so that's gone.

[keliot]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Galindo starting for Chivas, no Razov. It would be typical for a 'banker' to mess up the MLS home wintrend wouldn't it? Let's hope not. :hope I'm on Chivas (-.05,-1 AH).

[Setup]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 good job Kaiser Keep it up

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 :cow A very profitable night, meant to confirm the Chivas bet on lineup, but to be honest I fell asleep before I got the teams through :unsure........... I'd had the bet on myself and was basically waiting for either Galindo or Razov to be named otherwise I was laying it off........... there's only so much tust you can put in Harris and Eskindarian........ luckilly Galindo was in the starting 11, and Chivas won out 3-1 winners in the end, but by the look of the stats they were very much in the game. Hope it's not too contentious that I'll add it to the totals as I had the bet on myself. Running total before tonight was 98.5 points. DC United win 3 x .5 = 1.5 units Over 2.5 2 x .9 = 1.8 units Chivas Usa win 3 x .57 = 1.71 units Kansas City win 2.5 x 1.1 = 2.75 units Columbus lost - .5 units So 1.5 + 1.8 + 1.71 + 2.75 - .5 = 7.26 Unit profit on the night 98.5 + 7.26 = running total bank of 105.76

[Kaiser888]

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[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Just to add that despite going down 3-2 away to KC, Colarado are most definately a team to watch this season, and were unlucky not to get something out of todays game......... the goals they conceded were scrappy, 2 of them from set pieces, and apart from this they perhaps looked the better team, altough both sides had chances in what turned into a massively open encounter in the second half. KC are one of my favourite teams in the MLS for the attacking intent they show, largely down to their manager Curt Onolfo's positive attitude in this regard. KC are something of a late goal specialist as a result, because Onolfo is not afraid to risk dropping a point in trying to win the game......... this was shown today when he replaced defender Wahl with foward Eloy Columbano in the last 10 minutes, despite the game being fairly even at the time. Shame betfair don't do these games in-running at the moment, but it's a little thing worth keeping note of if they ever do - last year they tended to put games on ESPN IP but they haven't done as yet this season. I do feel that they still lack something up front however, and perhaps somone like Conor Casey will be able to make an impact - limited as he is - as a target foward when he returns from injury... apart from this though, it must be said they look pretty good. Especially in Midfield where they have an excellent balance. Didn't see the Columbus match, but stats wise they held their own, and perhaps might feel slightly unlucky to come out with a 2-0 defeat. DC obliged as I hoped they would, and Toronto did well to keep it to 4 after Harmse got himself sent off around the 20th minute, at a time when they were already 2 goals down. A good night's action with lots of goals, and a continuation of the incredible home dominance...... so far Home teams have won 10, drawn 2, and lost 0........... :eek an incredible trend that is pretty unprecedented looking over previous year's results. But although we shouldn't read too much into it, it is worth keeping in mind in the next round of selections. Cheers to all the contributions to the thread and WD on some good picks tonight.

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 After saying all that I might be laying MLS cup holders, Houston Dynamo, at home to Dallas later, despite their never having won there :rollin Price is currently around evens to lay, but it depends massively on what team they put out as to if I'll get involved or not...... suspicion that they might rest players with the 2nd leg of their Concacaf Champions league thing away in Costa Rica on Wednesday........ after drawing the first leg 0-0 they face a mammoth task. And so their focus might be diverted.......... Will update pre KO.

[keyshawn]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9

I am loving the NY-Columbus line. I think Columbus is by far the better team. This might be the first away win of the season in the league. NY's back line is awful - and they are only playing with 3 in the back. Their mid-field is almost as bad - they lost their best midfielder in preseason and Reyna is well past his "sell by" date. The one thing they have going for them is Angel-Altidore upfront. But, with Altidore away w/the US Oly team, they've barely trained together and the team has looked very bad in preseason. Then, on Thursday, Altidore got hurt in practice and the manager has said he won't play him if he's not 100%. He was limping at practice on Friday, so I dont think its likely he'll be in the lineup. Columbus is an underrated side and with a game under their belt already have that advantage too. Last year, they had a tendency to play for the draw on the road, hopefully they have enough confidence to go for the kill this year against a weak NY side. Add to the fact that a 3/4's empty Giants stadium does little to give NY a home field advantage and I'll take: Columbus Pk +175 **** Columbus ML +270 **** Over 2.5 -105 ** KC's odds have dropped to -120, but I still think they get the job done vs Colorado. Lopez is looking good and this KC team looks like they will be a contender this year. Colorado was tough to beat at home, but terrible on the road last year and last weeks 4-0 win at home isn't indicative of how this team will play away from home IMO. KC -105 **** Chivas should roll as long as Galindo and/or Razov is on the field. Chivas -1 120 ** Chivas -220 ** With those last 2 games, not only are the home teams the better teams IMO, but I'm also a fan of opposing high altitude teams away from home almost as much as I like taking them at home. Might take a shot at the over in this one as well.

Well, Columbus sh*t the bed for me. Giving up a goal in the first minute of play is not the way to win on the road. To add a little extra insult to injury, I didnt even hit the over after 2 goals were scored in the first 10 minutes. At least the rest came through for me to stop the bleeding.

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Houston have named a pretty strong line-up, however there poor early season form last year, combined with their opening day defeat this term has lead me to think that they may still be focused on Wednesday........ in any case I think Dallas will be competitive, and have a fair few attacking threats of their own. Lay of Kansas ***** meant Houston*****at 1.9 for 1.25 points liabillity.

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 Pfft Dallas hit the bar and had a few other chances but find themselves 1-0 down......

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 1-1, but this match is anyones...........

[Kaiser888]

Re: Usa - Mls 2008/9 2-1 Dallas