AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17)

[koi_saisei]

Round 12 Cartlon 2.25 Hawthorn 1.65 Kangaroos 1.90 Adelaide 1.90 Bulldogs 1.90 Freemantle 1.90 Geelong 1.09 Brisbane 7.50 Port Adelaide 1.90 Essendon 1.90 Wow. Really even odds here. Obviously another hard round... but I'm going to venture early and say that Freemantle are great odds considering the injuries the bulldogs have suffered. Jeff Farmer doesn't return till next round though does he... because I honestly believe when he returns Freemantle will do the same thing last year and have a huge late charge. And Beejay...gotta love the odds on Hawks :loon Edit: I dont have sticky thread powers :p ... but I'm bored and needed a thread to discuss this round.

[jeffers]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Early thoughts without yet having looked at stats, are value on Carlton and Essendon :D

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Overall Standings
#	Team	P	W	L	D	For	Agt	%	Pts
1	Geelong	11	8	3	0	1273	839	151.7	32
2	West Coast	11	8	3	0	1024	813	126	32
3	Hawthorn	11	7	4	0	977	865	112.9	28
4	Essendon	11	7	4	0	1106	1036	106.8	28
5	Collingwood	11	7	4	0	1044	986	105.9	28
6	Kangaroos	11	7	4	0	1047	1037	101	28
7	Sydney	11	6	5	0	942	828	113.8	24
8	Adelaide	11	6	5	0	889	831	107	24
9	W.Bulldogs	11	6	5	0	1082	1107	97.74	24
10	Port Adelaide	11	6	5	0	1001	1035	96.71	24
11	Fremantle	11	5	6	0	1040	1047	99.33	20
12	Brisbane	11	4	6	1	923	991	93.14	18
13	Carlton	11	4	7	0	1159	1344	86.24	16
14	St Kilda	11	4	7	0	814	956	85.15	16
15	Melbourne	11	2	9	0	863	1121	76.98	8
16	Richmond	11	0	10	1	925	1273	72.66	2

										Match Totals
		Quarters				Halves
#	Team	W	L	D	WR%	W	L	D	WR%
1	Geelong	31	12	1	70	16	5	1	73
2	West Coast	26	16	2	59	15	6	1	68
3	Hawthorn	22	21	1	50	13	6	3	59
4	Essendon	23	21	0	52	11	10	1	50
5	Collingwood	23	19	2	52	13	8	1	59
6	Kangaroos	25	17	2	57	12	10	0	55
7	Sydney	22	20	2	50	15	7	0	68
8	Adelaide	23	21	0	52	12	9	1	55
9	W.Bulldogs	19	22	3	43	7	14	1	32
10	Port Adelaide	19	23	2	43	9	13	0	41
11	Fremantle	21	22	1	48	11	10	1	50
12	Brisbane	20	24	0	45	8	14	0	36
13	Carlton	16	28	0	36	9	13	0	41
14	St Kilda	20	22	2	45	8	14	0	36
15	Melbourne	16	26	2	36	5	17	0	23
16	Richmond	15	27	2	34	7	15	0	32

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Quarter Averages
		For				Against
	Team	¼	½	¾	FT	¼	½	¾	FT
1	Geelong	33	29	29	25	19	20	16	21
2	West Coast	27	23	17	26	19	14	24	16
3	Hawthorn	17	21	27	24	19	21	20	18
4	Essendon	25	24	24	27	19	28	27	21
5	Collingwood	21	25	27	23	27	23	21	19
6	Kangaroos	27	22	22	23	19	23	18	34
7	Sydney	24	19	19	24	24	17	18	16
8	Adelaide	23	20	20	18	19	18	22	16
9	W.Bulldogs	30	24	23	22	31	20	25	25
10	Port Adelaide	22	22	27	20	27	27	20	20
11	Fremantle	24	21	25	26	25	19	29	23
12	Brisbane	22	24	21	18	27	19	23	22
13	Carlton	29	24	32	20	31	30	31	31
14	St Kilda	19	17	21	17	24	18	22	23
15	Melbourne	21	18	17	22	26	28	25	23
16	Richmond	22	18	20	24	28	26	30	31

Scoring Statistics
		Avg Score		Avg Margin		Total Score		Round Total
	Team	For	Agt	Win	Lose	High	Low	High	Low
1	Geelong	116	76	59	13	222	69	2	0
2	West Coast	93	74	36	25	137	64	0	0
3	Hawthorn	89	79	26	17	131	44	0	1
4	Essendon	101	94	21	19	127	74	0	0
5	Collingwood	95	90	19	19	120	66	2	0
6	Kangaroos	95	94	17	27	147	55	1	1
7	Sydney	86	75	29	12	118	44	0	0
8	Adelaide	81	76	23	16	110	57	0	1
9	W.Bulldogs	98	101	22	31	135	57	0	1
10	Port Adelaide	91	94	25	37	122	60	1	0
11	Fremantle	95	95	26	23	137	58	1	0
12	Brisbane	84	90	34	34	136	63	1	1
13	Carlton	105	122	17	36	141	39	3	1
14	St Kilda	74	87	38	42	125	43	0	5
15	Melbourne	78	102	15	32	106	57	0	1
16	Richmond	84	116	0	35	102	65	0	0

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Margin Breakdown - Basic
		U 15.5		O 15.5		U 39.5		O 39.5
	Team	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
1	Geelong	1	1	7	2	3	3	5	0
2	West Coast	3	1	5	2	5	3	3	0
3	Hawthorn	1	1	6	3	7	4	0	0
4	Essendon	4	1	3	3	6	4	1	0
5	Collingwood	2	2	5	2	7	4	0	0
6	Kangaroos	1	1	6	3	7	3	0	1
7	Sydney	1	2	5	3	4	5	2	0
8	Adelaide	1	2	5	3	6	5	0	0
9	W.Bulldogs	1	2	5	3	6	3	0	2
10	Port Adelaide	1	0	5	5	4	4	2	1
11	Fremantle	1	2	4	4	3	5	2	1
12	Brisbane	1	0	3	6	2	5	2	1
13	Carlton	2	1	2	6	4	4	0	3
14	St Kilda	0	0	4	7	2	3	2	4
15	Melbourne	1	3	1	6	2	5	0	4
16	Richmond	0	2	0	8	0	8	0	2

Margin Breakdown - Detailed
		1-19 pts		20-39 pts		40-59 pts		60+ pts
	Team	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
1	Geelong	1	2	2	1	2	0	3	0
2	West Coast	3	1	2	2	0	0	3	0
3	Hawthorn	1	3	6	1	0	0	0	0
4	Essendon	4	2	2	2	0	0	1	0
5	Collingwood	3	3	4	1	0	0	0	0
6	Kangaroos	4	2	3	1	0	0	0	1
7	Sydney	2	4	2	1	2	0	0	0
8	Adelaide	3	3	3	2	0	0	0	0
9	W.Bulldogs	2	2	4	1	0	2	0	0
10	Port Adelaide	4	0	0	4	2	1	0	0
11	Fremantle	2	3	1	2	2	1	0	0
12	Brisbane	1	0	1	5	2	0	0	1
13	Carlton	3	3	1	1	0	1	0	2
14	St Kilda	0	0	2	3	2	3	0	1
15	Melbourne	2	3	0	2	0	3	0	1
16	Richmond	0	4	0	4	0	1	0	1

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Based on Ads For and Against average scores. Assuming each team kicks their average score and concedes their average against.

	For	Agst	Average
Carlton	105	122	92
Hawthorn	89	79	106
Kangaroos	95	94	86
Adelaide	81	76	88
Bulldogs	98	101	97
Fremantle	95	95	98
Geelong	116	76	103
Brisbane	84	90	80
Port Power	91	94	93
Essendon	101	94	98
Richmond	81	116	92
Melbourne	78	102	97
Sydney	86	75	88
Collingwood	95	90	85
West Coast	93	74	90
St Kilda	74	87	74

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Carlton	Average Per Game	Hawthorn
193.7	Kicks	206.3
120.3	Handballs	142.0
314.0	Disposals	348.3
93.1	Marks	119.0
15.2	Goals	12.8
14.3	Behinds	12.0
29.5	Scoring Shots	24.8
53.6	Tackles	45.4
30.6	Hitouts	31.7
19.1	Frees For	19.0
19.8	Frees Against	20.6
1.6	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.5
51.5%	Conversion	51.6%
20.7	Disposals Per Goal	27.2
10.6	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	14.0

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Kangaroos	Average Per Game	Adelaide
187.1	Kicks	199.6
134.9	Handballs	148.4
322.0	Disposals	348.0
76.3	Marks	107.6
13.6	Goals	11.6
13.8	Behinds	11.5
27.4	Scoring Shots	23.1
56.7	Tackles	49.1
33.6	Hitouts	31.2
20.0	Frees For	15.6
18.3	Frees Against	19.6
1.4	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.4
49.6%	Conversion	50.2%
23.7	Disposals Per Goal	30.0
11.8	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	15.1

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Bulldogs	Average Per Game	Fremantle
205.2	Kicks	205.4
138.7	Handballs	141.0
343.9	Disposals	346.4
105.7	Marks	105.9
14.4	Goals	13.8
12.2	Behinds	11.6
26.6	Scoring Shots	25.4
53.3	Tackles	51.6
29.7	Hitouts	34.9
18.1	Frees For	18.7
19.6	Frees Against	20.9
1.5	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.5
54.1%	Conversion	54.3%
23.9	Disposals Per Goal	25.1
12.9	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	13.6

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Geelong	Average Per Game	Brisbane
209.0	Kicks	186.1
170.1	Handballs	136.8
379.1	Disposals	322.9
104.6	Marks	93.9
16.8	Goals	11.8
14.8	Behinds	13.0
31.6	Scoring Shots	24.8
54.4	Tackles	52.4
35.6	Hitouts	29.4
21.3	Frees For	20.2
20.0	Frees Against	17.7
1.2	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.4
53.2%	Conversion	47.6%
22.6	Disposals Per Goal	27.4
12.0	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	13.0

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Port Power	Average Per Game	Essendon
202.1	Kicks	221.4
126.3	Handballs	127.8
328.4	Disposals	349.2
101.2	Marks	123.2
12.8	Goals	14.7
14.1	Behinds	12.2
26.9	Scoring Shots	26.9
49.6	Tackles	49.2
34.8	Hitouts	22.6
19.6	Frees For	19.0
16.6	Frees Against	18.4
1.6	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.7
47.6%	Conversion	54.6%
25.7	Disposals Per Goal	23.8
12.2	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	13.0

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Richmond	Average Per Game	Melbourne
199.9	Kicks	200.9
129.1	Handballs	140.3
329.0	Disposals	341.2
115.6	Marks	103.9
12.2	Goals	11.2
11.0	Behinds	11.4
23.2	Scoring Shots	22.6
46.0	Tackles	57.7
20.9	Hitouts	30.9
17.9	Frees For	17.3
19.4	Frees Against	18.7
1.6	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.4
52.6%	Conversion	49.6%
27.0	Disposals Per Goal	30.5
14.2	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	15.1

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Sydney	Average Per Game	Collingwood
203.8	Kicks	223.1
116.6	Handballs	109.6
320.4	Disposals	332.7
105.8	Marks	109.7
12.4	Goals	13.4
10.9	Behinds	14.7
23.3	Scoring Shots	28.1
54.2	Tackles	52.8
43.0	Hitouts	28.6
19.6	Frees For	17.9
22.3	Frees Against	18.7
1.8	Kick to Handball Ratio	2.0
53.2%	Conversion	47.7%
25.8	Disposals Per Goal	24.8
13.8	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	11.8

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West Coast	Average Per Game	St Kilda
210.8	Kicks	206.7
186.8	Handballs	117.4
397.6	Disposals	324.1
104.1	Marks	109.2
13.1	Goals	10.4
14.6	Behinds	11.8
27.7	Scoring Shots	22.2
53.3	Tackles	50.9
32.4	Hitouts	28.7
22.4	Frees For	20.4
15.9	Frees Against	18.3
1.1	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.8
47.3%	Conversion	46.8%
30.4	Disposals Per Goal	31.2
14.4	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	14.6

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Kangaroos @ $1-90 and Essendon @ $2-00 are value of the highest order. Kangas playing an Adelaide side who are not firing on all cylinders. Kangas won 6 of last 8 and great record against the good sides this season Bombers have won 4 in a row and playing a team bereft of any heart in Port Power. Essendon have a great goal to goal line on Lloyd, Lucas, Hird, Flethcer and Michael, enough to repel Port. If that is not enough, the double Kangas/Bombers will be paying around $3-80. The Bookies are are actuall allowing you to steal $2-80 for every $1 invested on the kangas and Bombers to win. Is it Christmas already? Jeffers, you like a bet son, get on this beauty, unbelievable value. Only danger to this bet winning is perhaps Adelaide firing up and beating the Roos, but you couldn't have that on form. Crows are $2-40 for 1-39 points win, so save your stake on that if any doubt, or save on the Crows/Essendon H2H double at $3-60, or Crows 1-39/Bombers win at $4-80. Either way there is money to be made.

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Collingwood: Australian phenomenon who will be back with Swans

Australian phenomenon? You know, the most ironic thing about that statement is that you wrote it in your form ladder post and if you look at the most recent game, the Pies lost to the 15th ranked team in Melbourne (only their second win of the year mind you) :lol :lol :lol

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Half you guys probably don't know who Warrick Capper is but if we're running a sweep on when he next gets bashed, I want two-days.

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Half you guys probably don't know who Warrick Capper is but if we're running a sweep on when he next gets bashed' date=' I want two-days.[/quote'] Hahaha you read that thing in todays herald sun too Ash? Give me 24 hours mate :lol :lol

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) My thoughts for the round: Hawthorn to defeat Carlton -12.5: $2.10 @ centrebet Kangaroos to defeat Adelaide -5.5: $2.10 @ centrebet Bulldogs to defeat Fremantle -5.5: $2.10 @ centrebet I think these three teams are being ridiculously underrated and should all win comfortably. Hawthorn is twice the team Carlton is, and whilst Carlton are racking up some amazing scores, it is against bullshit opposition. The Hawks have just knocked off West Coast, Port Adelaide and only just went down to a strangling Sydney. Kangaroos... The bookies are a joke. They won 6 in a row, only just lost over in Subiaco to West Coast and then thumped the shit through St Kilda. I'll keep backing the life out of them whilst they keep performing like this. I don't know why bookies are not rating them a chance, but hell this here is charity. Bulldogs v Freo. Bulldogs will destroy them. Training in heat chambers, and that run. Freo are in for a nasty run over the next few weeks, and a friend of mine was making some very logical arguments as to why Chris Connoly will be the first coach sacked ($10 @ sportingbet) this season. Bulldogs win.

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Half you guys probably don't know who Warrick Capper is but if we're running a sweep on when he next gets bashed' date=' I want two-days.[/quote'] I know I should have been looking at the two pouches either side of big Wazza, but how was the nut sack he had on display :rollin:rollin:rollin What do you reckon he had in there? :lol

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I know I should have been looking at the two pouches either side of big Wazza, but how was the nut sack he had on display :rollin:rollin:rollin What do you reckon he had in there? :lol

In the nut sack? His brains, surely.

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Western Bulldogs - something to watch when doing our assements. A tough road month for them. This will be third travel in four weeks. They do get seven days to Freo's six, although Freo are a 9 x 6 for the fortnight. I also understand that this time of year does produce some dewy conditions. The only form so far this season that could be looked at is Haw v WBD Rd-5 when it rained LQ with Haw kicking 3.2 in loss while dogs kicked 0.7. Dogs are known to need good track but Freo have typically needed good condition also. Looking at the stats (thanks bjv) both use the ball about the same. My view is Freo are the marginal value given the condition could find WBD a little flat but not enough for me to bet on this one, ATM Adelaide - Johncock and Goodwin are in doubt (not saying they won't play). My feeling is books have this correct with 1.96 each of two. Personally not prepared to trust Kangas this week against a crafty opponent. Stanton in doubt and some talk about Fletcher but I think he's OK? P. Burg playing injured IMO? Tredrea a liabilty. Tredrea's 200th but surely Essendon should be tried as underdogs.

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Parkin tonight saying that Hodge has had the flu all week and Croad in some doubt. Still...I think his last bit of 'inside info' had Franklin not training all last week!! Cross a MASSIVE injury for Dogs...Griffen not so much but will certainly be missed. Hopefully West/Boyd can step up and McMahon can give Griffen's run. Some relatively tough games this week. Already on Hawthorn @ 1.68. Kanga's/Crows...either team under 24.5, effectively paying 1.83! (I think that's huge) and have 3 specific totals in mind for the other 3 games, so hopefully I'll be able to pick up one or two of those. (2 unders and an over) Stanton no hope surely!...Goodwin either.

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Some stats after Round 11 sorted by Total Average goals For

Pos	Team	Games	Disp	Kck	Mrk	Hbl	Tkl	Gls	Bhd	F/F	F/A	H/O
1	Geelong	11	383.1	210.4	105.4	172.7	64.0	16.8	11.4	22.6	21.3	35.1
2	Carlton	11	318.6	195.5	93.2	123.2	72.3	15.2	10.6	20.5	21.7	30.0
3	Essendon	11	351.9	221.4	123.0	130.5	67.6	14.7	9.9	21.0	20.1	23.5
4	Bulldogs	11	346.7	205.8	105.5	140.9	69.5	14.4	8.8	20.3	21.1	32.4
5	Fremantle	11	348.8	206.0	105.6	142.8	66.7	13.8	9.1	21.9	23.7	35.0
6	Kangaroos	11	327.2	190.0	77.0	137.2	73.2	13.5	10.5	23.0	20.6	32.3
7	Collingwood	11	338.0	225.5	111.2	112.5	72.9	13.4	10.9	19.8	21.4	28.8
8	West Coast	11	401.8	213.0	104.7	188.8	64.8	13.1	11.0	23.9	18.5	30.3
9	Hawthorn	11	350.8	206.8	119.7	144.0	67.1	12.8	10.5	21.8	22.9	31.3
10	Port	11	332.0	204.2	100.7	127.8	67.7	12.8	11.1	21.4	19.3	32.7
11	Sydney	11	325.0	205.5	105.6	119.5	71.0	12.5	7.9	21.8	23.8	43.3
12	Richmond	11	331.8	200.6	115.5	131.2	65.5	12.2	8.6	19.0	20.1	18.7
13	Brisbane	11	324.4	186.2	93.5	138.2	70.5	11.8	9.5	22.4	19.7	27.7
14	Adelaide	11	351.5	200.9	107.9	150.5	66.7	11.5	8.3	17.5	22.1	29.4
15	Melbourne	11	345.6	203.7	103.9	141.9	71.6	11.2	8.2	19.8	21.0	30.1
16	St Kilda	11	326.7	207.5	108.4	119.3	66.4	10.4	9.7	23.1	20.6	28.1

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Some leading Player stats after Round 11 for top 25 players

Pos	Player	Team	Games	Last Game	Aver Pos
1	Jimmy Bartel	Geelong	11	28 v Adelaide, Round 11	29.1
2	Scott West	Bulldogs	11	27 v Brisbane, Round 11	28.8
3	Chris Judd	West Coast	11	26 v Essendon, Round 11	28.1
4	Kane Cornes	Port Adelaide	11	30 v Carlton, Round 11	27.8
5	Daniel Cross	Bulldogs	10	5 v Brisbane, Round 11	26.5
6	Heath Scotland	Carlton	11	24 v Port Adelaide, Round 11	26.2
7	Joel Corey	Geelong	11	24 v Adelaide, Round 11	26.1
7	Sam Mitchell	Hawthorn	11	24 v Sydney, Round 11	26.1
9	Cameron Bruce	Melbourne	11	21 v Collingwood, Round 11	25.9
10	Nathan Foley	Richmond	11	29 v Fremantle, Round 11	25.8
11	Adam Simpson	Kangaroos	11	19 v St Kilda, Round 11	25.7
12	Simon Black	Brisbane	11	24 v Western Bulldogs, Round 11	25.5
12	Jordan Lewis	Hawthorn	11	12 v Sydney, Round 11	25.5
14	Dane Swan	Collingwood	11	25 v Melbourne, Round 11	25.5
15	Chris Knights	Adelaide	11	31 v Geelong, Round 11	25.0
15	Damien Peverill	Essendon	10	31 v West Coast, Round 11	25.0
17	Paul Hasleby	Fremantle	10	10 v Richmond, Round 11	24.7
18	Gary Ablett	Geelong	11	20 v Adelaide, Round 11	24.5
19	Nigel Lappin	Brisbane	7	26 v Western Bulldogs, Round 11	24.1
20	Tarkyn Lockyer	Collingwood	11	25 v Melbourne, Round 11	24.1
21	Scott Thompson	Adelaide	11	32 v Geelong, Round 11	24
21	Chad Fletcher	West Coast	4	13 v Essendon, Round 11	24
21	Daniel Kerr	West Coast	9	17 v Essendon, Round 11	24
24	Matt Priddis	West Coast	11	29 v Essendon, Round 11	23.9
25	Leigh Montagna	St Kilda	10	32 v Kangaroos, Round 11	23.9

Daniel Cross is 2nd highest ball winner for the Doggies and he will be missed in their midfield. Heath Scotland having another great year for Carlton. Nathan Foley has been super for Richmond this year in a losing team. Jordan Lewis also having a great year for the Hawks after getting more opportunity Chris Knights from Adelaide is a bit of a surprise but going very well Nigel Lappin after a slow start is again raking in the possessions, quality player. Chad Fletcher after only 4 games is averaging 20+ possys a game New comer Matt Priddis from West Coast is having a great year also, especially in a top team Leigh Montagna is also a surprise player in the top 25 posession getters in the AFL

[jeffers]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) I'd expect to see Carrazzo on that list soon, he's having shedloads of the footy lately...where do you get the stats from BJ? Is it a website or your own spreadsheet? :unsure

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17)

I'd expect to see Carrazzo on that list soon' date=' he's having shedloads of the footy lately...where do you get the stats from BJ? Is it a website or your own spreadsheet? :unsure[/quote'] Stats are from this website i think Jeffers. Carrazzo currently #31 on that list which supprises me, he has been tearing it up in the midfield for weeks getting about 30 touches a game. I think his effiecency of disposal has been good also, he has been the focal point of our revival

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17)

Parkin tonight saying that Hodge has had the flu all week and Croad in some doubt. Still...I think his last bit of 'inside info' had Franklin not training all last week!!

Last I knew, he had some minor role at the club. Not sure if that's still the case? Can't see him listed on staff but that wouldn't mean he isn't the official disinformation officer.

[DeMMa]

Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) why is carl @ 1.90 n hawks @ 1.80 ?? Anything im missing???

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Re: AFL Football Round 12 (Split Round: June 15 - June 17) Tonight’s game should be huge between Carlton and Hawthorn. The free scoring Blues will have to overcome a Hawthorn defence that has only conceded 100 points once all season. In contrast the lowest score Carlton have conceded all season is 98 points.

The Hawks odds have lengthened on speculation that Lance Franklin is in doubt for the game. He seemed to train at full tilt yesterday, so we might have to wait until the team sheets come in before tipping the Hawks with confidence. Croad and Boyle will both play with Mitch Thorp on standby for Franklin.

The Blues are still prone to lapses even though they are a high scoring team. The Hawks have managed to eradicate the lapses from their game and perform consistently across the board. The Hawks are very adaptable and they can constrict the game if they need to, but they need to win this game to keep themselves in the top four. The Blues will have their surges at times but the Hawks should be too steady and win narrowly.

The two games on Saturday night are a complete mystery and not even worth discussing.

Score Predictor & My Tips(in Bold) Carlton 101 Hawthorn 96 Kangaroos 93 Adelaide 89 Western Bulldogs 92 Fremantle 90

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CARLTON Quarter Time Leader HAWTHORN Margin 1-39

Good luck.