Grex Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) I think I´ll pass on Detroit.... (-8) is a HUGE spread to cover.... but, anyway, good luck with both. PS. A quick check on your selections shows that the strike rate for teams with a negative spread is 52% (13 out of 23) compared with your overall 59%. Might be best to avoid -ve spreads ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morselis Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) higher odds or buying points ?? i think better is buying the points in handicap or totals ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) VERY bad luck last night..... both bets blew it (one push) in the final quarter. :unsure Here´s to better fortune tonight :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Looks good to me Grex. :ok Washington have won 4 ATS (Detroit W1) Washington Mystics @ Detroit Shock(-8) @ 1.98 Indiana have lost 2 ATS (Chicago W1) Indiana Fever(-2) @ Chicago Sky @ 1.94 Default line is (-1.5) with odds of 1.87 so I chose -2. 2 bets @ 8pts per bet=16pts staked :hope 1 loser 1 push 8pts returned Number of bets: 61 Winning bets: 35 Losing bets: 24 PUSH bets:2 Strike rate: 57.38% Total staked:497.04pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:10.49% Profit (or Loss): 452.12pts Current bank:152.12pts _________________________________________ One for tonight; Seattle have lost 3 ATS (New York L1) Seattle Storm(-1) @ New York Liberty @ 1.94 7.6pts staked :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Andy, why not San Antonio (W1) [-3.5] @ Chicago (W2) @ 2.01 ?? PS. Excellent decision not to include it (for whatever reason)..... it LOST ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 23, 2007 Author Share Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Andy' date=' why not San Antonio (W1) [-3.5'] @ Chicago (W2) @ 2.01 ?? PS. Excellent decision not to include it (for whatever reason)..... it LOST ! I misread the pages and though S.A. were on W6. :$ One for tonight; Seattle have lost 3 ATS (New York L1) Seattle Storm(-1) @ New York Liberty @ 1.94 7.6pts staked 1 winner 7.6pts staked 14.74pts returned Number of bets: 62 Winning bets: 36 Losing bets: 24 PUSH bets:2 Strike rate: 58.06% Total staked:504.64pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:11.74% Profit (or Loss): 59.26pts Current bank:159.26pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Indiana Fever have lost 3 ATS (SA Silver Stars L1) San Antonio Silver Stars @ Indiana Fever(-2) @ 1.93 LA Sparks have won 2 AND Sacramento have lost 3 ATS LA Sparks @ Sacramento Monarchs(-8) @ 1.98 2 bets @ 7.96pts per bet=15.92pts staked :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maj69er Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Just a bit of info. Mother nature has caught up with the women and its period time (or as my friend calls it blood red weak) for most of these women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) That's rather a sexist comment, maj69er :eyes Bad luck last night - one "draw" and one narrow loss. Be careful with today's match (if you're selecting it).... it starts at 13:00ET i.e. 19:00CET, 18:00BST :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morselis Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Valiant23 if you can better buy 0.5 or 1 point ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Indiana Fever have lost 3 ATS (SA Silver Stars L1) San Antonio Silver Stars @ Indiana Fever(-2) @ 1.93 :( LA Sparks have won 2 AND Sacramento have lost 3 ATS LA Sparks @ Sacramento Monarchs(-8) @ 1.98 :\ 2 bets @ 7.96pts per bet=15.92pts staked :hope Another push :eyes and loss Number of bets: 64 Winning bets: 36 Losing bets: 25 PUSH bets:3 Strike rate: 56.25% Total staked:520.56pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:9.85% Profit (or Loss): 51.30pts Current bank:151.30pts Thanks Grex :ok Valiant23 if you can better buy 0.5 or 1 point ...I'm not sure. I do in NFL if the spread is on 7.5 or 3.5 or similar but where do you stop? Most of the lines I quote off Pinny are widely available - just at worse prizes. Minnesota have lost 2 ATS (Phoenix W1) Phoenix Mercury @ Minnesota Lynx(+4) @ 2.03 1 bet @ 7.56pts :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morselis Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) in last 3 or more matches you have a push because you don't buy a half of point... you bet with odds 1.98, 2.00 and maybe higher , if you buy 0.5 point odds is 1.93 or more and bet is correct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) :ok Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) With the Minnesota game tonight, it wouldn´t have mattered how many points you had "bought".... they lost by 24 points :cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Indiana have lost 4 ATS (Sacramento W1) Indiana Fever(+6) @ Sacramento Monarchs @ 1.91 Connecticut have lost 2 ATS (NY Push) New York Liberty @ Connecticut Sun(-5.5) @ 1.97 Chicago have won 3 ATS (Detroit W1) Chicago Sky @ Detroit Shock(-7.5) @ 1.99 3 bets @ 7.18pts per bet=21.54pts staked :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Another push :eyes and loss Minnesota have lost 2 ATS (Phoenix W1) Phoenix Mercury @ Minnesota Lynx(+4) @ 2.03 1 bet @ 7.56pts :hope 1 loss Number of bets: 65 Winning bets: 36 Losing bets: 26 PUSH bets:3 Strike rate: 55.38% Total staked:528.12pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:8.28% Profit (or Loss): 43.74pts Current bank:143.74pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich46 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Can i ask what the bets to be placed are as when i checked on pinnacle New York Liberty were +5.5 and Conneticut Sun were -5.5. Are you betting on Conn Sun with a handicap of -5.5. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Indiana have lost 4 ATS (Sacramento W1) Indiana Fever(+6) @ Sacramento Monarchs @ 1.91 Connecticut have lost 2 ATS (NY Push) New York Liberty @ Connecticut Sun(-5.5) @ 1.97 Chicago have won 3 ATS (Detroit W1) Chicago Sky @ Detroit Shock(-7.5) @ 1.99 3 bets @ 7.18pts per bet=21.54pts staked :hope 3 losers :eyes Number of bets: 68 Winning bets: 36 Losing bets: 29 PUSH bets:3 Strike rate: 52.94% Total staked:549.66pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:4.04% Profit (or Loss): 22.20pts Current bank:122.20pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Houston have won 2 ATS (SA W1) Houston Comets @ San Antonio Silver Stars(-7) @ 1.95 Minnesota have lost 3 ATS (LA L1) LA Sparks @ Minnesota Lynx(-2) @ 1.94 Indiana have lost 5 ATS (Seattle L1) Indian Fever(+8.5) @ Seattle Storm @ 1.95 3 bets @ 6.11pts per bet = 18.33pts staked :hope FAO Rich: In US sports handicap betting people generally put the spread they are on in brackets by the team they are on. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Hope for a turn around in fortunes for you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Thanks mate :ok Houston have won 2 ATS (SA W1) Houston Comets @ San Antonio Silver Stars(-7) @ 1.95 :( Minnesota have lost 3 ATS (LA L1) LA Sparks @ Minnesota Lynx(-2) @ 1.94 :D Indiana have lost 5 ATS (Seattle L1) Indian Fever(+8.5) @ Seattle Storm @ 1.95 :( 3 bets @ 6.11pts per bet = 18.33pts staked :hope FAO Rich: In US sports handicap betting people generally put the spread they are on in brackets by the team they are on. :ok 1 winner 2 losers 18.33pts staked 11.85pts returned Number of bets: 71 Winning bets: 37 Losing bets: 31 PUSH bets:3 Strike rate: 52.11% Total staked:567.99pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:2.77% Profit (or Loss): 15.72pts Current bank:115.72pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) gulp!!:\ Connecticut have lost 3 ATS (NY W1) Connecticut Sun(-1) @ New York liberty @ 1.94 LA have lost 2 ATS (Detroit W1) LA Sparks(+7.5) @ Detroit Shock @ 1.94 Indiana have lost 6 ATS (Phoenix L1) Indiana Fever(+9) @ Phoenix Mercury @ 1.93 Sacramento have won 2 ATS (Minnesota W1) Minnesota Lynx(+8.5) @ Sacramento Monarchs @1.91 4 bets @ 5.78pts per bet=23.12pts staked :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) gulp!!:\ Connecticut have lost 3 ATS (NY W1) Connecticut Sun(-1) @ New York liberty @ 1.94 :D LA have lost 2 ATS (Detroit W1) LA Sparks(+7.5) @ Detroit Shock @ 1.94 :D Indiana have lost 6 ATS (Phoenix L1) Indiana Fever(+9) @ Phoenix Mercury @ 1.93 :D Sacramento have won 2 ATS (Minnesota W1) Minnesota Lynx(+8.5) @ Sacramento Monarchs @1.91 :D 4 bets @ 5.78pts per bet=23.12pts staked :hope 4 winners 0 losers 23.12pts staked 44.62pts returned Number of bets: 75 Winning bets: 41 Losing bets: 31 PUSH bets:3 Strike rate: 54.67% Total staked:591.11pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:6.30% Profit (or Loss): 37.22pts Current bank:137.22pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Thats more like it!!!! Good work.....:dude:dude:dude:dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Excellent results on Monday (sorry, Sunday) night.... congrats :clap Tonight, Chicago Sky are on a 6W ATS streak :eek.... this has only happened 3 times in the last 2-and-a-half WNBA seasons. However, a word of warning... of those 3, two went on to a 7W streak :eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalyo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Good job Valiant23:hope Your system shows solid profit (nba /wnba) + NFL even better. Great work my friend.Steady profit that's all it count. Just don't try this system on NCAAF. Teams that cover 2 or more are more likely to cover the next game.I am sure you know that. Can't wait for NFL.This is where your system shines!!! Great find my friend . Two thumbs up :notworthy. GL. [url=http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/member.php?u=6956] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Thanks all! :D Going to go with Chicago tonight after all. Chicago have won 6 ATS (Connecticut W1) Chicago Sky @ Connecticut Sun(-4.5) @ 1.93 Phoenix have lost 2 ATS (Houston L1) Phoenix Mercury(-3) @ Houston Comets @2.04 2 bets @ 6.86pts per bet=13.72pts staked :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Thanks all! :D Going to go with Chicago tonight after all. Chicago have won 6 ATS (Connecticut W1) Chicago Sky @ Connecticut Sun(-4.5) @ 1.93 :D Phoenix have lost 2 ATS (Houston L1) Phoenix Mercury(-3) @ Houston Comets @2.04 :( 2 bets @ 6.86pts per bet=13.72pts staked :hope 1 winner 1 loser 13.72pts staked 13.24pts returned Number of bets: 77 Winning bets: 42 Losing bets: 32 PUSH bets:3 Strike rate: 54.54% Total staked:604.83pts Starting bank:100pts Yield:6.07% Profit (or Loss): 36.74pts Current bank:136.74pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) "You can spend your time alone re digesting past regrets, Or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself. Makes much more sense to live in the present tense." Very profound.... and true ! ;) BTW, I have done some statistical "research" into the 2005 & 2006 WNBA seasons. Surprisingly, the probability of a team which is on a 2W ATS streak continuing to a 3W streak is 61%. Conversely, the probability of a team which is on a 2L ATS streak winning the next match is only 35%. So, for tonight´s game, Minnesota (2W) v New York (2L) the "contrary system" would select New York.... however, the statistical probability favours Minnesota. Anyway, don´t listen to me - statistics have a habit of being proven wrong! Stick to your successful system.... and good luck :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted August 2, 2007 Author Share Posted August 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (WNBA) Actually Grex the 2W vs 2L was a huge loser in the NBA thread with a s.r. of around 40% so I eventually dropped those matches but when I looked at last years results for WNBA it didn't seem to 'stick out' so much so I decided to run with it. Also, my sig. is taken from a song by Pearl Jam called Present Tense. Anyway..... Minnesota have won 2 AND New York have lost 2 ATS Minnesota Lynx @ New York Liberty(-4) @ 2.00 Phoenix have lost 3 ATS (SA L1) Phoenix Mercury(+3) @ San Antonio Silver Stars @ 1.95 2 bets @ 6.83pts per bet=13.66pts staked :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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