aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Aldric, could you also post the opening 1X2 odds for the games ? Will make it easier to follow and provide a better overview if you want to look at a particular groups of games afterwards, like games with hot favs vs equally priced teams. Sure, No problem :ok (I will post 1X2 on my next trade) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 35 Tottenham v Arsenal Ko. 1245hrs No cover bet. Lay draw @ 3.40 No cover bet. Tottenham..+25.00 Arsenal.......+25.00 Draw..........-60.00 Tottenham score on 30 minutes... I missed the draw spike which sometimes happens and the odds are currently 3.55 to trade out' date=' so I am going to have to leave it for now. Hopefully will trade off just after half time or if tottenham score another :lol[/quote'] Arsenal Hit the post and put the rebound over the bar they have a good chance of coming back in to this so I have traded as follows: Tottenham..+3.40 Arsenal.......-13.80 Draw..........+3.36 My plan is to back arsenal at higher odds and achieve a profit for all 3 results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 38 West Ham v Everton KO. 1500hrs Odds: West Ham. 2.80 Everton......2.90 Draw..........3.35 Lay draw @ 3.35 No cover bet. West Ham...+25.53 Everton.....+25.53 Draw.........-60.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw How often does this happen, my bet was placed and got to 2 and then the market is suspended.... Seems to happen to me a lot. Anyway, Arsenal score and my liability is still the same on them (-13.80). Tottenham 1-1 Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw How often does this happen, my bet was placed and got to 2 and then the market is suspended.... Seems to happen to me a lot. Anyway, Arsenal score and my liability is still the same on them (-13.80). Tottenham 1-1 Arsenal Arghhhhh :wall :wall :wall Just show the importance of having a clear strategy and then sticking to it. Been in this situation often myself, knowing i should trade a certain way but letting a situation ride hoping for things to improve. Only to see the situation change against me completely. Learning opportunity: did you make a mistake or did you get unlucky ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw The inevitable happened... 1-2 Arsenal.... Lesson to be learnt for me here. Assuming there isn't an equalising goal this is the 2nd time that I have lost money when I have put a lay on the team that conceded a goal. Both times have been with tottenham playing as well! So for me, I will now only trade out in order to profit on all 3 outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Arghhhhh :wall :wall :wall Just show the importance of having a clear strategy and then sticking to it. Been in this situation often myself, knowing i should trade a certain way but letting a situation ride hoping for things to improve. Only to see the situation change against me completely. Learning opportunity: did you make a mistake or did you get unlucky ? The problem is I wasn't happy with the tiny profit, so I got greedy and tried to create some more. As per my post above I will now only trade to have a profit on all 3 outcomes, as comebacks do happen (even from 3 nil down!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw The problem is I wasn't happy with the tiny profit, so I got greedy and tried to create some more. Life's a bitch innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Life's a bitch innit. LOL indeed....... But it was nice of Tottenham to equalise on 94 minutes :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 37 Leverkusen v Nurnberg Lay draw @ 3.45 Leverkusen....+24.49 Nurnberg.......+24.49 Draw............-60.00 Leverkusen score on 19 minutes.... For info they were favourites with odds of 2.10, Nurnberg were about 4.0. I have backed the draw @ 4.80 to achieve the following: Leverkusen....+7.49 Nurnberg.......+7.49 Draw............+4.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 36 Frankfurt v Bochum KO 1430hrs Lay draw @ 3.40 No cover bet. Frankfurt.....+25.00 Bochum.......+25.00 Draw...........-60.00 Bochum score on 32 minutes, they were the underdog (about 4.10 v 2.75 for Frankfurt) so the odds for the draw remain about the same. I will have to leave this to run for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 38 West Ham v Everton KO. 1500hrs Odds: West Ham. 2.80 Everton......2.90 Draw..........3.35 Lay draw @ 3.35 No cover bet. West Ham...+25.53 Everton.....+25.53 Draw.........-60.00 West Ham score on 16 minutes, I have traded out by backing the draw at 4.2 as follows: West Ham..+5.53 Everton.....+5.53 Draw.........+4.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 36 Frankfurt v Bochum KO 1430hrs Lay draw @ 3.40 No cover bet. Frankfurt.....+25.00 Bochum.......+25.00 Draw...........-60.00 Bochum score on 32 minutes' date=' they were the underdog (about 4.10 v 2.75 for Frankfurt) so the odds for the draw remain about the same. I will have to leave this to run for the moment.[/quote'] It is still only 3.20 to back the draw, therefore I would be losing money if I traded out just now. It is one of those decisions again, to take a small loss or risk a further 15 - 20 minutes and see how it goes. I am going to take a risk on this occasion, hopefully it will pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Bochum score again 0-2...... I have backed the draw @ 11.00 to trade out as follows: Frankfurt.....+19.00 Bochum.......+19.00 Draw...........+0.00 This will be my last trade today.... a good day in the end, will update the P/L at the conclusion of the West Ham game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw A good days trading, unfortunately work calls again or there would have been more trades for tonight..... There is always tomorrow ;) I think it is fair to say I was a bit fortunate on the Tottenham game and Bochum scoring a 2nd made my day. Todays results: Trade 35 Tottenham v Arsenal (2-2) +3.36 units Trade 36 Frankfurt v Bochum (0-3) + 19.00 units Trade 37 Leverkusen v Nurnberg (2-0) +7.49 units Trade 38 West Ham v Everton (1-0) + 5.53 units Profit 35.38 units. Overall results Total Trades: 38 Winning Trades: 32 Losing Trades: 6 P/L: +134.69 Bank: 234.69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Sorry for the late posting, im just in... 3 trades for the 1400 K.O's Trade 38 Kilmarnock v Celtic Odds: Kilmarnock.. 7.40 Celtic.........1.56 Draw..........4.30 Lay draw @ 4.30 No cover bet. Killie.......+18.19 Celtic.....+18.19 Draw......-60.03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 40 Lazio v Fiorentina Odds: Lazio........2.64 Fiorentina..3.15 Draw.........2.98 Lay draw @ 2.98 No cover bet. Lazio.........+30.28 Fiorentina...+30.28 Draw.........-60.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 41 Empoli v Torino Odds: Empoli........2.01 Torino........4.80 Draw.........3.15 Lay draw @ 3.15 No cover bet. Empoli.....+27.91 Torino.....+27.91 Draw.......-60.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 38 Kilmarnock v Celtic Odds: Kilmarnock.. 7.40 Celtic.........1.56 Draw..........4.30 Lay draw @ 4.30 No cover bet. Killie.......+18.19 Celtic.....+18.19 Draw......-60.03 0-1 Celtic score on 26 minutes... I have traded out as follows: Backed draw @ 7.6 Killie.......+8.19 Celtic.....+8.19 Draw......+5.97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 40 Lazio v Fiorentina Trade 41 Empoli v Torino Both are 0-0 at HT..... they are the only Serie A games not to have a goal :wall :hope that we see goals in the 2nd half....... Aldric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Painful afternoon of Italian football, I have taken a loss on both games and closed out even though there are 15 minutes of both games left. I have traded out as follows: Trade 40 Lazio v Fiorentina Lazio.........-24.72 Fiorentina...-24.72 Draw.........-17.12 Trade 41 Empoli v Torino Empoli.....-22.09 Torino.....-22.09 Draw.......-22.51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw And as expected, Fiorentina score just after I closed out.... ho hum :) All we need is a goal in the Empoli game to complete the disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 40 Lazio v Fiorentina Lazio.........-24.72 Fiorentina...-24.72 Draw.........-17.12 I have placed a few more trades on this and it is a sea of red... Lazio.........-83.72 Fiorentina...-19.72 Draw.........-26.82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Bad luck with the Italians mate, i didn't like the Empoli game so left that, managed to get out break even on Fiorentina, but i took a hit on Chelsea this afternoon. Pretty normal sunday so far :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Painful...... Trade 39 - Killie v Celtic (1-2):...... + 8.19 units Trade 40 - Lazio v Fiorentina (0-1).. - 17.12 units Trade 41 - Empoli v Torino (0-0)......- 22.51 units -31.44 units Total Trades: 41 Winning Trades: 33 Losing Trades: 8 P/L: +103.25 Bank: 203.25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Bad luck with the Italians mate, i didn't like the Empoli game so left that, managed to get out break even on Fiorentina, but i took a hit on Chelsea this afternoon. Pretty normal sunday so far :lol Hopefully we can both turn it around :) More trades to come... EDIT My computer is on a go slow, I am planning to trade both german Division 1 games... which started at 1700hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 42 Hannover v Mgladbach Odds: Hannover........1.82 Mgladbach......4.10 Draw.............3.80 Lay draw @ 3.80 No cover bet. Hannoverr...+21.43 Mgladbach..+21.43 Draw..........-60.00 (There was a goal in the other german game, so no trade) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 43 Aalesund v Fredrikstad KO 1700hrs Odds: Aalesund........2.28 Fredrikstad.....3.25 Draw.............3.85 Lay draw @ 3.85 No cover bet. Aalesund.....+21.06 Fredrikstad..+21.06 Draw..........-60.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 43 Auxerre v Lyon KO 1700hrs Odds: Auxerre...3.65 Lyon.......2.54 Draw...... 3.85 Lay draw @ 3.85 No cover bet. (unders are expected, however h2h these teams have not had a 0-0 game in their 10 games.) Auxerre.....+29.27 Lyon.........+29.27 Draw.........-60.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Re: Football - Trading the draw Trade 42 Hannover v Mgladbach Odds: Hannover........1.82 Mgladbach......4.10 Draw.............3.80 Lay draw @ 3.80 No cover bet. Hannoverr...+21.43 Mgladbach..+21.43 Draw..........-60.00 (There was a goal in the other german game, so no trade) 1-0 Hanover score on 30(ish) minutes... I have traded out by backing the draw at 6.2: Hannover....+9.03 Mgladbach..+9.03 Draw..........+4.48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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