Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

[Mr Intensity]

Well, the last race was the first one this season I've called badly, hopefully can get back to form this weekend. Anyone got the balls to get involved in qualifying?:lol :lol

Monaco GP: Race Winner Saturday 28 May 2006 - 13:00 BST Related events...Race WinnerWinning TeamFastest LapPodium FinishPoints FinishPole Position- - -Finishing DriversFirst Car To RetireFirst Driver To RetireNumber of FinishersOver/Under FinishersSafety Car

Best odds/All odds Alonso, F 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.6 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.25 2.37 2.25 2.62 2.64 Schumacher, M 3 2.87 3 2.87 2.85 2.87 3 3 2.87 2.87 2.87 3 2.87 3 3.6 3.7 Räikkönen, K 9 9 10 9 10 10 7.5 9 10 9 10 10 9 10 11 12 Fisichella, G 9 10 9 10 9 9 11 10 9 11 8 10 9 10 10.5 11.5 Montoya, JP 15 17 17 17 15 15 15 15 17 15 15 17 15 13 17.5 20 Button, J 17 19 17 17 17 15 15 13 19 17 15 17 15 17 20 23 Massa, F 17 15 15 15 17 15 18 17 19 13 17 17 13 17 28 30 Barichello, R 41 41 34 34 34 - 23 26 41 29 41 34 34 51 62 65 Webber, M 67 81 67 51 81 67 67 41 67 67 67 81 51 67 84 85 Trulli, J 67 67 51 67 67 51 50 41 67 41 51 81 67 81 100 110 Rosberg, N 67 101 81 67 81 67 67 67 67 67 101 101 51 81 110 80 Schumacher, R 67 67 41 51 67 51 67 51 67 51 51 81 81 101 116 100 Heidfeld, N 126 126 101 101 126 101 100 81 101 81 126 126 126 126 128 140 Coulthard, D 101 201 101 151 201 201 50 101 151 151 201 201 201 67 144 160 Villeneuve, J 126 126 101 126 126 101 100 81 126 101 126 201 126 126 184 200 Klien, C 301 301 251 401 251 301 100 151 251 201 301 501 301 151 205 220 Liuzzi, V 201 501 501 501 501 401 250 201 401 401 301 1001 401 151 495 510 Speed, S 301 501 501 501 501 501 250 501 601 501 301 1001 401 201 495 510 Albers, C 1001 751 751 751 1001 1001 750 501 1001 751 1001 1501 1001 251 985 1000 Monteiro, T 1001 751 751 751 1001 1001 750 501 1001 751 1001 1501 1001 251 985 1000 Sato, T 2001 1001 1001 2001 2001 2001 1000 1001 1001 1001 2001 2001 1001 301 985 1000 Montagny, F 3001 1501 1001 3001 2001 2501 1000 1001 1001 1001 1501 2501 2001 301 985 1000 Each-way terms: 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/4 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5

Best price percentage: 103%, bookies only: 117%

Monaco GP: Pole Position Saturday 27 May 2006 - 13:00 BST Related events...Race WinnerWinning TeamFastest LapPodium FinishPoints FinishPole Position- - -Finishing DriversFirst Car To RetireFirst Driver To RetireNumber of FinishersOver/Under FinishersSafety Car

Best odds/All odds Alonso, F 2.75 2.62 2.5 2.62 2.5 2.62 2.85 2.75 2.62 2.5 2.37 3.05 Schumacher, M 3.25 2.9 3.25 3.25 3 3.25 3 3.25 3.4 3.25 3.25 3.95 Fisichella, G 7.5 8 7 7 7 7 9 7 6 6 9 9.8 Button, J 10 10 8 8 9 9 10 8 7.5 9 9 11.5 Räikkönen, K 8 8.5 8 10 9 11 9 8 11 9 8 12 Montoya, JP 11 13 13 15 13 15 13 13 15 15 9 16 Massa, F 13 13 13 13 15 13 15 13 13 13 13 24 Barichello, R 26 34 - 26 34 - 21 26 26 26 34 44 Webber, M 26 67 67 41 67 67 67 34 51 51 67 34 Trulli, J 41 51 51 41 67 41 31 34 41 51 67 65 Rosberg, N 41 67 67 67 67 67 67 41 67 67 81 70 Schumacher, R 67 67 51 51 67 51 50 51 67 67 101 75 Villeneuve, J 101 101 101 126 101 101 125 67 101 81 126 80 Heidfeld, N 81 101 101 81 101 101 125 67 101 81 126 100 Coulthard, D 81 126 151 126 201 126 200 101 126 - 101 90 Klien, C 201 201 151 201 251 201 250 151 251 - 151 100 Liuzzi, V 151 301 301 301 401 301 400 201 301 - 151 110 Speed, S 201 401 401 301 401 501 600 301 301 - 201 110 Albers, C 501 751 751 751 1001 751 1000 501 1001 - 251 110 Monteiro, T 1001 751 751 751 1001 751 700 501 1001 - 251 110 Sato, T 1001 - 1001 1001 1001 1501 1250 1001 1501 - 301 110 Montagny, F 1001 - 1001 1001 1001 2001 1000 1001 1501 - 301 110 Each-way terms: 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5 3 at 1/5

Best price percentage: 107%, bookies only: 120%

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Thanks for another sticky:ok. Pressure's on now:loon :loon

[davidmphill]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Thanks for another sticky:ok. Pressure's on now:loon :loon

:lol :ok

[meatman]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Great drivers have won this race over the years. Senna was magical around the streets and it takes a very good guy with plenty of experience to take the checkered flag. I'd love to see Schumacher and ferrari win around this very sepcial track this weekend. I don't think hes won here since 2002? but it's vital he beats Alonso. This is always such a great event and will be great viewing for sure. What a feeling it will be, seeing the cars make their way around St Devotte for the first of 78 gruelling laps............................... good luck to all punters :hope

[BillyHills]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Sounds like Fun and Games in Qualifying with MS coming out on top, best price around Evens but the firms are slow at updating!! Been looking at the retirements record for Monaco; The last 10 years the figures for cars not finishings is as follows with last year first; 4,10,6,10,12,11,13,9,12 and 14. The only market at the moment is 14.5 cars to finish, 1 car lower than normal which isnt surprising i suppose after looking at the stats. 1.44 for the Safety Car looks nailed on at Skybet also. will fish around for better prices before placing my bet. Good luck!

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Here is the incident everyone is talking about:

I'm not so sure:unsure :unsure. Fisi has lost his 3 best times for blocking DC and drops to tenth.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Schumacher sent to the back of the grid:eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek Not many places had prices up, and many have now taken them down and will probably be slow in putting them back up. May have to wait until the morning before doing anything:sad

[BillyHills]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Revised Grid after Schumacher demoted to last place! Cant remember ever anything like this before with the two Ferraris at the back, should be an amazing race. Pos Driver Team Time 1 Fernando Alonso (Spa) Renault 1:13.962 2 Mark Webber (Aus) Williams 1:14.082 3 Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) McLaren 1:14.140 4 Juan Montoya (Col) McLaren 1:14.664 5 Rubens Barrichello (Bra) Honda 1:15.804 6 Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:15.857 7 David Coulthard (Gbr) Red Bull 1:16.426 8 Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams 1:16.636 9 Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Renault 1:14.396 10 Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:14.398 11 Christian Klien (Aut) Red Bull 1:14.747 12 Vitantonio Liuzzi (Ita) Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:14.969 13 Jenson Button (Gbr) Honda 1:14.982 14 Jacques Villeneuve (Can) BMW Sauber 1:15.052 15 Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:15.137 16 Christijan Albers (Ned) Midland 1:15.598 17 Tiago Monteiro (Por) Midland 1:15.993 18 Scott Speed (USA) Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:16.236 19 Takuma Sato (Jpn) Super Aguri 1:17.276 20 Franck Montagny (Fra) Super Aguri 1:17.502 21 Felipe Massa (Bra) Ferrari No Time 22* Michael Schumacher (Ger) Ferrari 1mins 13.898secs * Stripped of pole Amended now Mr I.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Remember Fisi down to 9th as well mate:ok

[meatman]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May well I am surprised that they have forced schumacher to the back of the grid. Normally Ferrari get these decisions to go in their favour :loon fcuking shit decision IMO and it spoils what could have been a good race between him and Alonso. Instead we will be left with what will probably be an Alonso procession............................................... :eyes

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

fcuking shit decision IMO and it spoils what could have been a good race between him and Alonso. Instead we will be left with what will probably be an Alonso procession........................................ ....... :eyes

Don't be so sure mate, Kimi has real pace here, just needs to get rid of Webber:unsure

[meatman]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Don't be so sure mate' date=' Kimi has real pace here, just needs to get rid of Webber:unsure[/quote'] I really hope Kimi can win this one :ok

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Bluesq have had the balls to put some markets up, so here's my first shot......

Sport	Motor Sport
Event	Monaco Grand Prix
Selection	MCLAREN v Renault (most points)
Strength	10/10
Date	28/05/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Blue Square @ 2.87 (Back)
Reasoning	This looks a pretty big price here. Renault start 1st with Alonso and Fisichella 9th against the McLarens of Kimi and Montoya in 3rd and 4th. McLaren have shown much better pace here mainly because the problems with the car are balance at high speeds and the engine, both of which are less noticeable here. Also Kimi is the best driver (IMO) in slow speed corners and Montoya has a way of getting round here very quickly. They never go overly aggressive with the fuel strategy so I expect them to have a decent amount, more than Webber and possibly a bit more than Alonso. Fisi, after being punished, is probably on a siilar fuel load, so it's not as if he's back there strategically waiting for the other guys to come in and pass them. Fisi is going to have real problems, the guys ahead of him are Rosberg, DC and Trulli and they all look like having pretty quick cars. Also guys behind him like Ralf who will probably have more fuel I can see making this a long afternoon for Fisi. Even if we assume Alonso wins, say 2nd and 4th for McLaren would bring 13 points, so Fisi would have to finish 6th to get this to a tie. Obviously a lot more complicated scenarios could and probably will occur, especially as I don't think Alonso winning is a forgone conclusion, but if both McLarens can finish I think they have a great chance in this.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Sport	Motorsport
Event	Monaco Grand Prix
Selection	TRULLI to finish in the points
Strength	10/10
Date	28/05/2006
Bookmaker/Price	>Paddy Power @ 1.90 (Back)
Reasoning	I think Trulli is a very decent shot to finish in the points here. He's much happier in the revised version of the Toyota; in the last one he really wasn't happy with the front end which was introduced towards the end of last season. He also is very very strong at Monaco and I think this is one race where his pace won't drop off like it usually does! With Schumi and Fisi being dropped back he starts in 6th place and is in a great position to get some decent points. Barrichello is ahead of his, and I think Trulli will have at least the same pace as him and probably a bit more fuel. Behind him there is some action with DC, Rosberg, Fisichella and Ralf, but I can see him holding his own against these guys and he should be on for some solid points.

Sport	Motorsport
Event	Monaco Grand Prix
Selection	WEBBER to finish on the podium
Strength	10/10
Date	28/05/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Sportingodds @ 3.25 (Back)
Reasoning	I expect the McLarens to give Webber a really tough run in this one, and probably beat him, but I have to take this price on the guy starting 2nd at Monaco! Last year a very average Williams managed to finish 2nd and 3rd here and they clearly have got the car hooked up again. Webber is very strong around here, and I think he's on for consecutive podiums at Monaco. People will be saying that he's really light, but I'm not certain that's the case, I think he could be very similar to Alonso for fuel and maybe 2 laps less than the McLarens. I think these 4 will be the pace and should create a decent lead in the first stint. We know 4 into 3 doesn't go, but I'll take my chances at this price.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Sport	Motorsport
Event	Monaco Grand Prix
Selection	MASSA v Button
Strength	10/10
Date	28/05/2006
Bookmaker/Price	Pinnacle Sports @ 2.64 (Back)
Reasoning	Bit of a long shot here, but in H2H, I think it's worth a go. Massa dumped his car into the wall in qualifying and starts 21st compared to Buttons 13th which was simply down to a lack of speed. He's been suffering from a lot of understeer and I don't think they'll be able to sort it before the race. Starting 13th I think he'll have problems moving forward. Directly in front of him are Liuzzi and Klien: Liuzzi has tended to run pretty long and will no doubt do so again, and with that V10 he'll be very tough to pass, although he'll probably be pretty slow (which is good!). DC has shown that the Red Bull has some decent speed so Klien will also be tough to pass. Ahead of that is Ralf and Fisi et al and these guys are quicker than Button, so really I can't see him moving up on pace, at least for the first stint. This should give the Ferraris coming from the back something to work with, as Massa will clearly be heavy but should still be able to get past the Super Aguris and the Midlands. Massa has done very well this year and needs to redeem himself after the mistake in qualifying and I expect a solid race. If theres only a couple of cars between them when they stop, this is game on and I fancy my chances with Massa in the much faster car. Edit: This has just been cut from 2.9 to 2.64 while I was typing it out. I'll still take it, but the prce is not so great.

Think that will be it. Isn't much around that appeals to me today:unsure :unsure

[Marcus0000]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May The problem with Schumacher is he has done shady things in the past to try to win or get the pole. Your reputation pretty much follows you around.

[BillyHills]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Decided to back under 14.5 finishers with Skybet at 1.72, the stats back this up with only 6 retirements needed, evens at PP but another retirement needed there so i'll go with the reduced odds. Also i reckon a safety car is a near certainty with hardly any run-off places so i'll back that with skybet at 1.44, sounds skinny but still a fair price. Also decided to back Raikkonen E/W for the race rather than a Podium, at 4/1 with Laddies its still almost a bet to nothing and good value for what i see as the only danger to Alonso. Always like going for a bit of a value bet from lower down the grid so i'm going for Button to make the points at 2.25 with VC bet, for me he his still a good driver around here and if there are casulaties he could sneak into the points. Good luck guys, have a feeling the fun and games havnt ended yet, be interesting to see how the Ferrari's approach this now! I reckon Massa will be like a bull in a china shop, i'd like to lay him for a points finish but the price is too high for SPunter.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Decided to back under 14.5 finishers with Skybet at 1.72, the stats back this up with only 6 retirements needed, evens at PP but another retirement needed there so i'll go with the reduced odds.

There's 22 cars now mate, need 8 to retire:ok

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Edit: This has just been cut from 2.9 to 2.64 while I was typing it out. I'll still take it, but the prce is not so great.

Down to 2.38 now - this is really getting pounded:loon :loon :loon

[BillyHills]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May My mistake, i typed the flipping grid out as well! Lets have carnage!!

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Webber was heaviest in qualifying of the big 4:loon :clap :clap. Amazing job, deserves a podium today:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Webber was heaviest in qualifying of the big 4:loon :clap :clap. Amazing job, deserves a podium today:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

No justice in the world:sad

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Oh man, Kimi too, totally robbed today:sad :sad :sad

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May What a joke, 3 retirements:lol :lol :lol. -13.6pts:wall :wall :wall :wall

[Tulenos]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Weren't there six retirements today, Mr I? Totally amazed by MSch's performance today - and very angry with the director of the broadcast who decided to show the whole overexiting lap of Alonso's car while in the meantime there was a battle raging between MSch and Barrich. (who managed to hold his position in the end).

[Tulenos]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

No justice in the world:sad

Well, not my bet, but one has to feel for Trulli as well:\

[Mr Intensity]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Weren't there six retirements today, Mr I?

Mmm, not sure mate. I was talking about Webber, Kimi and Trulli all screwing me over:ok

[Tulenos]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May

Mmm' date=' not sure mate. I was talking about Webber, Kimi and Trulli all screwing me over:ok[/quote'] Got it:ok BTW, only Raikk and Web are declared as retired drivers, Trulli get an official reasult @ minus six laps, therefore there are only 5 retirements in the race.

[gazabroad]

Re: Monaco Grand Prix 28th May Totally amazed by MSch's performance today - and very angry with the director of the broadcast who decided to show the whole overexiting lap of Alonso's car while in the meantime there was a battle raging between MSch and Barrich. (who managed to hold his position in the end). You should try living in Spain mate, we get the Alonso Show every race:@