muppet77 Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles an encouraging start mate, well done. just one point - these selections have low ratings, is this wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles Indeed, all I going to do this summer is use the away draws against the home team. how does this change the formula from post 79 fleet? i.e. this part: Home form: home team's home wins minus draws minus home defeats Away form: away team's away wins minus away draws minus away defeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles Change 'minus away draws' to 'plus away draws'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles cheers, so it is just the away value that changes: Home form: home team's home wins minus draws minus home defeats Away form: away team's away wins PLUS away draws minus away defeats is that correct? an interesting twist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles Yes. It was what we considered during the English season. This way - a team drawing a lot away (ie not losing and we want the away team to lose) counts against the home team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles I'll go for: Goias 13 8/11 Gremio 16 4/6 £10 staked to return £28.79 :hope Bank now £117.82 .A 1-1 draw kills this until after the world cup. :spank Bank £117.82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ping_ponk Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles Fleet try with Ireland - Premier League.there are 60% home win and odds are good.:) :cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles END OF SEASON POSITIONS: Treble Selections: Bank now £446.50 +/-: +346.50 7-fold Selections: Bank now £445.00 +/-: +345.00 5-fold Selections Bank now £328.35 +/-: +28.35 (Only started this one near the end of the season!) fleet, i'm aware that for the 5 fold and the 7 fold the bank profit was nearly 350% of the starting bank,but do you know how much you staked on each fold system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles very encouraging reading mate. :clap Treble Selections: profit +346.50 staked 526.23 yield 65.8% single wins 35/54 singles strike 68.5% 7-fold Selections: profit +345.00 staked 385 yield 89.6% single wins 41/83 singles strike 49.4% 5-fold Selections profit +28.35 staked 190 yield 14.9% single wins 28/45 singles strike 62.2% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles Of course, the singles strike rate isn't really applicable but looks good overall. As for the suggestion above about Irish football - I looked at it and the teams at the top are naturally the most reliable but I'm not sure the required odds would correlate to suitably rated matches overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles 2006-07-1301:30SchedD1ATLETICO PARANAENSEFORTALEZA01:30SchedD1FLUMINENSEJUVENTUDE01:30SchedD1INTERNACIONALPONTE PRETA02:30SchedD1SAO PAULOGREMIO03:45SchedD1CRUZEIROCORINTHIANS03:45SchedD1FIGUEIRENSESANTOS03:45SchedD1SAO CAETANOBOTAFOGO2006-07-1402:30SchedD1FLAMENGOPARANA02:30SchedD1PALMEIRASVASCO DA GAMA02:30SchedD1SANTA CRUZGOIAS Apart from Cruzeiro,4/6 and rated 35!!! The rest of the higher positives; 11 Fluminense 1/2 16 Internacional 1/3 20 Sao Paulo 1/2 are too low. So I'm going to risk: £10 on Cruzeiro 4/6 & Santa Cruz (-31) to lose at home to Goias 11/10. £10 staked in an attempt to return £35. Yes I know it's an away and I only do homes but if this one fails I'm going to leave it until the English Leagues are up and running. It's not that easy to get teams that are rated high enough at home at good enough odds with just one division I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles I've tken cruzeiro on a single - good luck mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles 03:45FinD1CRUZEIROCORINTHIANS2-0 :clap So it's down to Goias tonight. :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles :ok with Cruzeiro, Fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles Wasn't to be - they lost! Now you see why I say HOME TEAMS ONLY!!!! Back late August / early September for the proper football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betfairbetting Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles As I mentioned time ago this system is good for almost all European leagues (actually all leagues where the home advantage means something), just don't bet in Non-European leagues like Brazil, Japan etc and in Amateur leagues like Iceland for instance, these leagues are among the most unstable leagues in the world (for 1x2, for U/O etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles any scotch picks mate for today? or do you wait a few games in? could you transfer data over from last season? (with promoted teams replacing demoted ones?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted July 30, 2006 Author Share Posted July 30, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles & Summer Samba Doubles No......as you may have gathered by a lack of posts. (Not enough teams in each division, etc) ......I'll wait until we have some form & stick to 5 English divisions. I'm on hols 12th-19th Aug anyway..... Btw.... I am going to return to the 'despised by some' method: Home form: home team's home wins minus draws minus home defeats Away form: away team's away wins minus away draws minus away defeats Worked last season - if it ain't broke blah blah blah..... .....back in a few weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonasi Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles - Returns End Aug / Start Sept Superb thread - just joined up today and cant wait for the season to get started. :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxappeal Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles - Returns End Aug / Start Sept I'm in too!!!!! Good Luck for this season! :hope Hope this will be just as great as the last one!! :clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles - Returns End Aug / Start Sept :welcome goonasi & saxappeal. Here's an appetising question..... .....are we capable of getting 2 trebles correct from 5? 5 groups of 3 selections, where the groups are permed in a lucky 31 of trebles, 6-folds, 9-folds, 12-folds & a 15-fold :loon would need just a 6-fold to break even at the odds we take..... ......can't remember who pm'd me last season with the idea of groups but it could be a new approach when we start. Small stakes with the lure of an occassional big payout. I think we're capable when you look at how many times we got 5 or 6 from 7 or the list of qualfiers got 15 from 19, etc. We'll still have our main treble runs on a £10 start though. 'Food for thought' anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles - Returns End Aug / Start Sept Furthermore, I have compiled some ratings for this weekend, out of curiosity. Using mainly last season's form, with a bit of weighting to allow for promotion / relegation, I have rated the 3 divisions that kick-off this weekend. Naturally, there is no guarantee that this will work but I have done it anyway. That means I'll have to have a bet now. There you go, I couldn't resist. Will not be officially part of the season-long system, but I'll be back later with some selections..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... There won't be too much of an explaination of how the ratings were achieved, as it is based on the proper system but has temporarily factored in promotion and relegation from last season. Both bets will be with william hill this weekend. Treble: 39 Preston 4/5 37 Brentford 1/1 29 Lincoln 23/20 £10 staked in an attempt to return £77.40 :hope 'Canadian style': How to group them? Odds? Ratings? My answer to both was 'no'. Sod's law would be that if you did either then something would let you down in each group. I've left it to chance and gone in alphabetical order. These are the best 15 rated - ALL ODDS* *Only because we're limited with 3 divisions. When we get to play with 5 divisions I will restore the 8/15 cutoff point. In deciding where to place the bet, I put ALL SELECTIONS in oddschecker and took the bookmaker that offered the best return on a full-house. Group A: Birmingham Brentford Bristol City Group B: Burnley Crewe Darlington Group C: Grimsby Leeds Lincoln Group D: MK Dons Nott'm Forest Port Vale Group E: Preston Shrewsbury Swansea Each group is the equivalent of 1 bet. Therefore bets are 6-folds, 9-folds, 12-folds & 15-fold. It is easier to place this in a bookmakers than online (online each multiple would need to be entered as a seperate bet!) THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY TIME I WILL EXPLAIN THIS FULLY!!! 6-FOLDS AB AC AD AE BC BD BE CD CE DE 9-FOLDS ABC ABD ABE ACD ACE ADE BCD BCE BDE CDE 12-FOLDS ABCD ABCE ABDE ACDE BCDE 15-FOLD ABCDE 26 bets @ .20 = £5.20 staked. (You can laugh but a full-house would return £1354.50 on the 15-fold alone!) Yes it's a long-shot but hence the very small stakes. The bread and butter system is the treble. I just keep seeing those weeks last season when qualifier after qualifer won..... .....anyway, this is how the canadian will look so call this weekend a trial run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacingCol Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Hi Fleet, Best of luck with this mate - I will be following very closely this season. Quick question for you - will you be starting a completely new bank when the system starts "proper? i.e. when the first 6 matches have been played? And will this be a continuation of last seasons bank or are you starting from zero? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensiSteve Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY TIME I WILL EXPLAIN THIS FULLY!!! Untill you get all 15 in have a few too many:beer and people question how your systems work so well.:D Out of interest( after a few months summer boredom, horses are ok but not really my thing) how will you go about selecting a lucky 31 with the football betting slips? Also if the trial is fairly successfull will you introduce a staking plan like you have on the trebles? i.e bank half stake other half etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Out of interest( after a few months summer boredom' date=' horses are ok but not really my thing) how will you go about selecting a lucky 31 with the football betting slips? Also if the trial is fairly successfull will you introduce a staking plan like you have on the trebles? i.e bank half stake other half etc?[/quote']In a shop you could put each treble in a seperate column and write the instructions 'columns a b c d e - each column permed into 6 folds 9 folds 12 folds 15 fold = 26 bets' Staking plan? Not sure yet as will wait to see how this performs. Not expecting miracles hence very low stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Hi Fleet, Best of luck with this mate - I will be following very closely this season. Quick question for you - will you be starting a completely new bank when the system starts "proper? i.e. when the first 6 matches have been played? And will this be a continuation of last seasons bank or are you starting from zero? Thanks in advance.Oh yeah we'll start with £100 on the trebles again and see how we progress..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonasi Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Like it very interesting, good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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