slapdash Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 3.55 Goodwood Take a Bow (14/1 Totesport) 10 points EW. Each way system. There's an odds on favourite. We're getting 3.80 for the place, compared to a lay price of 2.94 on Betfair. The Betfair win price is slightly higher, at 15.5, but the difference in place odds is enough to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 3.30 Perth Bodfari Signet (10/1 William Hill) 10 points EW. Each way system. The favourite is around even money, with a shortish priced second favourite. We're getting 3.00 for the place, compared to a lay price of 2.68 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also 10/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 2.00 Redcar Until When (10/1 Totesport) 10 points EW. Each way system. Short priced first and second favourites. We're getting 3.00 for the place, compared to a lay price of 2.6 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also lower, at 10.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 2.35 Redcar Always Best (16/1 Totesport) 10 points EW. Large handicap system. We're getting 5.00 for the place, compared to a lay price of 4.00 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also slightly lower, at 16.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_lovell Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 lol - good job aswell :p hopefully we'll sting the bookies :D slap, time for a lucky 15 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva4google Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 :hope i hope we make some $$ 2nite :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander61 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Until When 12/1 with Sean Graham!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Championship Point, Bodfari Signet, Until When and Always Best were placed, and the other two lost, for a 9 point profit. Starting Bank: 1000 Current Bank: 3815.93 Total Staked: 8200 W/P/L: 57/135/28 Profit/Loss: +2815.93 (Win +887.66, Place +1928.27) Yield: +34.34% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 3.30 Pontefract Namir (14/1 Sporting Odds) 10 points EW. Large handicap system. We're getting 4.5 for the place, compared to a lay price of 3.6 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also lower, at 11/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 3.30 Pontefract Princess Cleo (9/1 Coral) 10 points EW. Large handicap system. We're getting 3.25 for the place, compared to a lay price of 2.58 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also slightly lower, at 9.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1979 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Namir 14/1 still at sportingbet.com sportingodds cut to 10/1 in mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 2.10 Fontwell Land of Light (14/1 Bet365) 10 points EW. Each way system. There's an odds on favourite. We're getting 4.50 for the place, compared to a lay price of 3.35 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also 14/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 4.40 Fontwell Mollycarrsbrekfast (10/1 Stan James) 10 points EW. Each way system. There's an odds on favourite. We're getting 3.00 for the place, compared to a lay price of 2.36 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also 10/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 4.40 Fontwell Eljay's Boy (SP) 10 points EW. Each way system. There's an odds on favourite. We'd get 1.90 for the place at the best early price of 9/2, compared to a lay price of 1.65 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is just slightly higher at 5.70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 2.20 Perth Overthyme (7/1 Bet365) 10 points EW. Each way system. There's an odds on favourite. We're getting 2.40 for the place, compared to a lay price of 1.80 on Betfair. The Betfair win price is a bit higher, at 8.40, but the difference in place odds is enough to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 4.50 Perth Toran Road (12/1 Paddy Power) 10 points EW. Each way system. There are short priced first and second favourites. We're getting 3.40 for the place, compared to a lay price of 2.98 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also lower, at 11/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 3.10 Fontwell Allez Melina (20/1 Bet365) 10 points EW. Each way system. There's an odds on favourite. We're getting 6.00 for the place, compared to a lay price of 4.50 on Betfair, and the Betfair win price is also 20/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileni4uk Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Yesterday 4 places and no winner. Today 4 winners and no places:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggy Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Slapdash you are without doubt an absolute master at this value game:notworthy , and I think it's fair to say that you must now rival Pricewise for the effect that your selections have on bookie prices. They are definately running scared as a very high proportion of your bets tumble in price minutes after your e-mail gets though, sadly in most cases now before I can actually get my bet on. Still nicely in profit though, and big thanks for that.:ok Big difference between your effect on the bookie and that of Pricewise is that you cost the bookies, whereas my guess is only the very early birds do so following PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiano Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 I don't know if someone asked this before but I must ask this.How did you came up with this idea and this brilliant system? You must be a millionaire right now thanks to horse racing :D :hope this is for a few winners today :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friskyfitz Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 :sad:sad Hit the first 3 and had no luck so decided to give in for the day... Namir strikes for 10/1 in the next :lol:lol Just my luck at the minute..:rollin:rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friskyfitz Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Nice going again Slappy :ok:ok:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Top man Slap :clap 3-30 PontefractNamir@ 12/1Won4-40 FontwellEljay's Boy@ 4/1 2FWon 50p E/W = £32.83 WillHill your a star :nana :nana :nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 The last time I got asked this I got referred back to page 1 of the thread but I'm not sure the answer is there so here goes again ..... (if anyone has the patience to answer!) am I right in saying we are backing e/w on the basis that Betfairs prices are more "accurate" early on than the bookies and it is this "edge" that we are essentially backing to come in enough times to keep us in profit overall ??? ie. in some ways backing price takers with possible "inside" info on betfair (or catching early gambles) and backing them at the higher "non-adjusted" bookie market??? Thanks! Rafa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 To answer a few questions: Randall: There's not really any idea involved that lots of other people haven't had as well. I'm generally looking at races (with odds-on favourites, or handicaps with four places paid) where the rigid formula the bookies use to calculate place odds from win odds tends to work against them. That much is very well known. The way I personally came up with the rest of the idea was that a couple of years ago I had a free bet from a bookie and decided to put it on an each way double on horses in two races with long odds-on favourites, but I couldn't decide which horses to choose (there were two or three likely choices in each race, I think), and had the idea of looking at the Betfair place prices to see which were most fancied for a place there, and was quite surprised to see how much the Betfair place prices varied for horses in the same race with quite similar win odds. Rafa: Yes, that's roughly the idea. I can't say I know exactly how it works, but certainly the idea is that the Betfair place odds should be more accurate, because they're not restricted by the rigid "1/4 the odds" or "1/5 the odds" rules the bookies have to follow. How much "inside information" is involved, and how much shrewd judgement by Betfair punters who know a lot more about horse racing than I do, I'm not sure. I suspect it varies from race to race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Hi ya mate. followed the e.w double system today. 19 bets.:ok then i got on here and to cover all it was 26 bets. so i decided to do just the 2 from each race were you picked the 2 choices.. So it was 4 bets @ quid e.w double.:nana :nana :clap :clap :clap very lucky i picked the right ones.:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Thanks, guys. Looks like everybody else managed to make better use of my selections than I did! Namir won, but I think there was a 15p rule 4 deduction on the price I took. Eljay's Boy won at 4/1. The other six lost. I make that a 76.75 point profit. Starting Bank: 1000 Current Bank: 3892.68 Total Staked: 8360 W/P/L: 59/135/224 Profit/Loss: +2892.68 (Win +986.66, Place +1906.02) Yield: +34.60% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Re: Slapdash systems 2006 Nice one slapdash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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