The Scientist Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Rather like Frankel....its hard to tell. Or in team parlance...."you never know how good they are until they are not there". Or "who did he beat?" All refering to a A) the triumph of his opponents B) deduction of the "collective" lift calculated in. Things can look a bit different then. Sinndar beat previous "best in the world " Montjeu in the Arc and subsequent "best in the world ", Sakhee in the Derby. Rock solid GOAT credentials. Frankel beat....well he best something but nobody can remember the name. Baaeed beat something...Mishraff. well that's been done by other horses often enough... Arkle by his defeats of GOAT rival Mill House and his defeat of Stallbridge Colonist giving 30lbs away ends the Jump Racing GOAT stone dead for all time. Arkle 1st.....the rest nowhere. BUT flat racing? Hard to say. Subtract the collective advantage. Top trainer...top owner...top stable staff...top sire...top dam...best horse wagon, best food, best gallops and what are we left with...? ...Phar Lap? Why not? Most of us old timers give it to Brigadeer Gerard....because of his ultimate sole defeat by Derby winning Roberto and the subsequent great victories of his 2,000 Guineas runner up...in the Derby and the Arc. As to Baaeed he will be destined to join Frankel in the "but what horses did he actually best?" category and fade out of our memories as quickly as he arrived. I suspect. kensland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I think a lot of us remember Frankel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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