swooperman Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Right, 1-1 & all to play for, with the winner taking a psychological advantage into the tests. Eng v Aus overall ODI record: m83, Eng 33, Aus 46, tied 2, NR 2 ODI @ The Oval: m38, won batting first 15, second 22, NR 1 Run Rate: 4.52. Avg runs per wicket: 31.89 50 ovs ODIs @ The Oval: m18, won batting first 5, second 12, NR 1 ODIs @ The Oval from 2000 onwards: 13m, won batting first 3, second 10 R/R: 4.96 (highest ever) Avg runs per wkt: 31.43 (lowest ever) Eng in ODI's @ The Oval: m25, w16, l8, NR1. 53% won of games they batted first, 89% won of games they batted second England have not lost chasing here since 1999 Aus in ODI's @ The Oval: m8, w5, l3 50% won of games they batted first, 75% won of games they batted second Recent ODI's: 2005, BD 190, Eng 192-0 2004, Eng 217, WI 218-8 2004, SA 246-6, WI 249-5 2004, NZ 198-9, Aus 199-3 2004, Zim 191, SL 195-6 2004, NZ 347-4, USA 137 2004, Eng 307-5, Ind 237 2003, SA 264-6, Eng 265-4 2003, Pak 185, Eng 189-3 Eng v Aus ODI's @ The Oval: m4, eng 2, Aus 2. won batting first 1, second 3 2001, Eng 176, Aus 177-2 (30.1) 1997, Aus 249-6, Eng 253-4 There have been 19 team scores over 250, 6 over 300 (4 x Eng) Individual Records: Tresco m8, 519rs, 114*hs, avg86.5, 3x100 Flintoff m8, 213rs, 99hs, avg35.5, 10wkts @ 29.2 Solanki m5, 198rs, 106hs, avg66.00 Gilchrist m4, 168rs, 80hs, avg42.00 McGrath m4, 9 wkts @ 16.22 Gough m12, 12 wkts @ 42.5 Harmison m3, 6 wkts @ 20.66 Giles m6, 5 wkts @ 34.2 Looking at the stats, there is obviously a big slant on batting 2nd, particularly this decade. Its not a particularly high scoring ground in the recent past whereas it has a good record as a test ground for runs scored. The strange thing is that there doesnt really seem to be any advantage in backing the side batting second to get a higher opening stand, which from the stats you should think would follow tbh. Looking in the recent past generally a wicket goes down early around the high teens, early twenty's mark, apart from when SA put on 102 v WI but we know they spray it like a shower nozzle on steroids. there has to be something about batting second though with stats like that. Australias win @ Lords was clinical & was like the old Aussies tbh, & Ponting getting runs was ideal for them as he was the one player who hadnt really got going before that game. Gillespie may well be dropped for Watson if fit which would put his test place in serious jeopardy. Hayden didnt play sunday due to a mysterious shoulder injury but should be fit here. The only thing I didnt check was the weather but pretty sure it was dry & sunny tbh. Both games so far have been marked by early wickets, so with these stats then again the toss is likely to be crucial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 Re: Eng v Aus, NatWest decider, the Oval, tuesday Match Prices England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 12 Jul 10:15 Live on SelectionPrice England 5/4Australia 4/75 more bets England Top Batsman Australia Top Batsman Highest Opening Partnership Highest Score 1st 10 Overs Who Will Win The Toss? Show all England Top Batsman England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 12 Jul 10:15 Live on Only these 6 count,,ANY NR'S, R4 WILL BE APPLIED SelectionPrice Trescothick, Marcus 7/2Strauss, Andrew 7/2Vaughan, Michael 4/1Pietersen, Kevin 9/2Flintoff, Andy 5/1Collingwood, Paul 7/1Australia Top Batsman England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 12 Jul 10:15 Live on Only these 6 count,,ANY NR'S, R4 WILL BE APPLIED SelectionPrice Gilchrist, Adam 7/2Katich, Simon 4/1Ponting, Ricky 4/1Martyn, Damien 4/1Symonds, Andy 11/2Clarke, Michael 7/1Highest Opening Partnership England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 12 Jul 10:15 Live on SelectionPrice England EVSTie 33/1Australia 8/11Highest Score 1st 10 Overs England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 12 Jul 10:15 Live on SelectionPrice England 11/10Tie 25/1Australia 4/6Who Will Win The Toss? England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 12 Jul 10:15 Live on SelectionPrice England 10/11Australia 10/11Tick the checkbox next to a price to move that selection to betting slip. Next event Off Cricket 12 Jul 10:15 England v Australia-Natwest Challenge Game 3 13 Jul 05:00 Sri Lanka V West Indies-1st Test 13 Jul 15:40 National League Division 2-Outright 13 Jul 15:40 Yorkshire V Surrey-National League Division 2 15 Jul 10:15 C+G Trophy-Outright 17 Jul 12:30 National League Division 1-Outright 18 Jul 17:00 Twenty20 Cup-Outright 18 Jul 17:00 Lancashire v Derbyshire-Twenty/20 1/4 Finals 18 Jul 17:00 Leicestershire v Middlesex-Twenty/20 1/4 Finals 18 Jul 17:00 Northants v Somerset-Twenty/20 1/4 Finals 18 Jul 17:00 Surrey v Warwickshire-Twenty/20 1/4 Finals 21 Jul 10:00 Ashes 2005-Outright 05 Feb 13:00 Cricket World Cup 2007 In-Running Diary Live Commentary Horse Form Football Stats Jump to: login | top | content/betting Sports American Football Baseball Boxing Cricket Cycling Darts Football - Live Football - Coupons Football - Specials Football - Ante Post Golf Greyhounds Horse Racing Horse Racing U.S. Horses Ante Post Motorsports Rugby League Rugby Union Snooker Specials Tennis Virtual Racing Price format Choose price format: FractionsDecimalsAmerican Fast bet find http://www.stanjames.com/betnav/fastbetfind.asp method=post submitted="false" alertuser="false">Keywords: Site Features Use advanced site features Use Flash What's this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Re: Eng v Aus, NatWest decider, the Oval, tuesday Any thoughts on Gilchrist to register more runs than Katich? Gilchrist is available at 1.72 @ Ladbrokes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 Re: Eng v Aus, NatWest decider, the Oval, tuesday I'd say it looks a good bet tbh ed, Katich will play more of a holding role IMo & I think Gilchrist will try to impose as normal. Of course thast increases his chances of getting out but it wont take long before he's out of sight if he doesnt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Re: Eng v Aus, NatWest decider, the Oval, tuesday Agree with that Swoops, thats the main reason I dont bother with match bets involving Gilchrist anymore, he can run up an innings winning knock in 20 overs or can go 1st ball. Ive booked the day off work to watch tomorrows game so I'm gonna make sure I have a few bets on it :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Re: Eng v Aus, NatWest decider, the Oval, tuesday Not a good bet IMO, as you've both said Gilchrist is not a very consistent player, whereas Katich has got into the habit of making 30+ recently. Could never take Gilchrist odds on against such a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 Re: Eng v Aus, NatWest decider, the Oval, tuesday There you go, ed...sorry you asked now arent you :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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