Lay Acca

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Now as we all know, accas of all kinds are not really advised. Ive decided though to attempt a "lay acca". I was going to post about this on Chala's thread but decided not to intrude. Ive actually started this and am on stage 3 but Ill start from stage 1 on here. The plan is to lay a number of horses and hopefully take advantage of the possible "winning" streaks you can have when laying.(see Chala's thread, 9 in a row :ok ) Using Chala's lays as an example, from 20pts you would now have 166pts, 146pt profit. Now I know it may be optimistic but Ive spent a fair time experimenting with laying horses and I know that decent streaks are definatly achieveable. My tactic is going to be to lay a horse to lose 20pts. If for example this makes me a profit of 5pts then the next lay will be to lose 25pts and so on. Three successful lays should double my bank. After this point I will extract the original 20pt stake and continue with the rest. This means that after the 1st three lays Ill be gambling with pure profit. As of yet I dont have any fixed stop gaps but if I get a good run going I may well secure some profits , whilst continuing with the rest. At the moment Im having to do extra hours at work due to being shortstaffed so Im not around during racing hours. As I cant pre-place a lay acca I have to know the result of one race before laying the next. This means at the moment they'll only be one lay a day. This may change once I get more available time. The horses Ill be laying will be mostly qualifiers from my Racing Post ratings system and general handicap faves which also seem to have a poor winning record from previous experience. 1st lay will mostly likely be tomorrow and will be up before 2.30pm. All profit will be quoted as after comission.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Right, lets get this underway. Lay 1 4.25 Thirsk - Rosecliff @ 3.65 To lose 20pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca What a great start.:sad Lay 1 4.25 Thirsk - Rosecliff @ 3.65 To lose 20pts Result: 1st Profit: -20pts Lets hope this time around we actually get out of the starting stalls. No work tomorrow so a possible to chance to get a run going.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Attempt 2 Lay 1 3.00 Epsom - Stream Of Gold @ 3.45 Lay to lose 20pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 1 3.00 Epsom - Stream Of Gold @ 3.45 Lay to lose 20pts Result: Unplaced Profit:7.75pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 2 4.10 Haydock - Oddsmaker @ 5.4 Lay to lose 27.75pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 2 4.10 Haydock - Oddsmaker @ 5.4 Lay to lose 27.75pts Result: Unplaced Profit:5.98pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +13.73pts(stake unsecured)

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 3 4.45 Haydock - Goose Chase @ 5.5 Lay to lose 33.73pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Sorry for no warning on that post but was a last minute decision as it was. Only just got it on in time. Lay 3 4.45 Haydock - Goose Chase @ 5.5 Lay to lose 33.73pts Result: 3rd Profit:7.12pts This now takes us to 40.85pts profit. So now I will retract the 20pt stake and secure that and continue with the remaining 20.85pts. Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +20.85pts(stake secured)

[tankyman]

Re: Lay Acca Well done Matey....... :cheers

[DC]

Re: Lay Acca Yes well done with your smart recovery. A bold bid to lay the Stoute horse I thought but well done! I am trying something similar with favourites to place. I'm attempting to get £20 up to £500 from 8 successful bets @ 1.50 on the exchanges ;-) I shall be watching with interest Good luck Danny

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Cheers for the kind words guys. Right, we've secured our £20 stake and are now looking to make some profit. Lay 4 3.10 Bath - Hazewind @ 5.0 Lay to lose 20.85pts Evans has only managed 2 winners since 23rd May.

[chala]

Re: Lay Acca Good Luck WFTE, nice to have another system to watch. I actually had Rosecliffe down to win on Friday! But you've made a great recovery, all the best.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Cheers Chala. I hope it wasnt me mentioning your good run that brought it to an end. Lay 4 3.10 Bath - Hazewind @ 5.0 Lay to lose 20.85pts Result: 4th Profit:4.95pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +25.80pts(stake secured)

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 5 3.50 Stratford - Paddy The Optimist @ 5.0 Lay to lose 25.80pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 5 3.50 Stratford - Paddy The Optimist @ 5.0 Lay to lose 25.80pts Result: Unplaced Profit:6.13pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +31.93pts(stake secured)

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Unlikely to be any selections today as Betfair seems like it will be down until I leave for work.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 6 7.15 Chester - Little Good Bay @ 3.6 Lay to lose 31.93pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 6 7.15 Chester - Little Good Bay @ 3.6 Lay to lose 31.93pts Result: 2nd Profit:11.67pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +43.60pts(stake secured)

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 7 8.00 Newbury - Karliyna @ 3.5 Lay to lose 43.60pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Well it made me sweat a bit but we just about managed to get today's selection beat. I dont want too many getting that close though. Lay 7 8.00 Newbury - Karliyna @ 3.5 Lay to lose 43.60pts Result: 2nd Profit:16.57pts We're now upto 60pts profit on attempt 2. Im going to play it safe/chicken at this point and bank 20pts and continue with the rest. This means attempt 2 has made a guaranteed profit of 20pts and makes the system level overall. Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +20pts, 40.17pts still running

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 8 2.30 Wolverhampton - Sweetest Revenge @ 4.6 Lay to lose 40.17pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Lay 8 2.30 Wolverhampton - Sweetest Revenge @ 4.6 Lay to lose 40.17pts Result: UP Profit:10.60pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +20pts, 50.67pts still running

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Not quite as covinced with this one with it being a maiden but this one doesnt seem to like the trip too much and is more exposed than the others. Lay 9 3.30 Wolverhampton - Indian Wizard @ 4.3 Lay to lose 50.67pts

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Well beaten in the end. Lay 9 3.30 Wolverhampton - Indian Wizard @ 4.3 Lay to lose 50.67pts Result: UP Profit:14.58pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +20pts, 65.25pts still running

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca One more for the day and Im taking on the big guns in the shape of Loder and Dettori. Concerns me a little but Id happily go against it if it wasnt for them. A few in the race that look like they'll be more suited. Lay 10 4.50 Yarmouth - Spear @ 5.1 Lay to lose 65.25pts

[DC]

Re: Lay Acca Well done mate, you're doing well. It's a shame I have to work in a place which doesn't have the internet otherwise I'd follow you in on some of these. Keep it up. Danny

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Im having the work problem too mate. Ive been off for a year but Im back doing nights at Laddies for some extra/secure cash. Some days I start at 4:30pm, like today, so I get a little chance to get involved. Others I start at 2:45pm so I only really get to play the one horse. That might be a good thing from here on in, means Ill have to stay disciplined with only 1 pick a day.

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Whoops. An update would be handy wouldnt it. Lay 10 4.50 Yarmouth - Spear @ 5.1 Lay to lose 65.25pts Result: UP Profit:15.11pts Attempt 1: -20pts Attempt 2: +20pts, 80.36pts still running

[WorkingForTheEnemy]

Re: Lay Acca Well its all or nothing with this one today. I must be mad laying this short this far in! Lay 11 2.55 Wolverhampton - Lord Of The East @ 2.34 Lay to lose 80.36pts