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Re: My selections Another winner, with High Five Society. Impressive strike rate, must be said but the attitude when asked for somple reasoning is terrible.
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Re: My selections
These are the tips you charge people for?? Bridgewater Boys 2/1 JF Augustus John 2/1 JF Badge Of Honour 4/6 F Monte Major 15/8 F Granted, you are having a good day thus far, and I wish you all the best, but if I was a paying customer, I think I would expect better priced and possibly more original choice of horses.Another winner wouldnt people rather have winners with no reasoning or losers with reasoning? I am a tipster i charge for these tips. And im sharing them free of charge and people dont like it -
Re: Wolverhampton 13th February 330 - Glamoroso 12/1 E/W Bet365 BOG Worth having a punt on this one E/W. Has in all honesty shown very little running over a variety of trips, The Racing Post comments on his last two runs were, 29/12/08 Class 7 Great Leighs 10f
06/01/09 Class 6 Hcp, Kempton 8fGlamoroso fared the best of those to race up with the pace and may be a bit better than this bare result suggests. He is lightly raced enough to be open to a little improvement.
Both these races suggest that there could yet be improvement, and that they are still trying to find the right class/trip for the horse. This 9f race at the lowest level could provide him with the ideal opportunity to get in amongst the places once again. LTO he was beaten by Highly Regal and Just Jimmy, who have subsequently gone on to have form figures reading, 11 and 341 respectively.Glamoroso, down in trip and unplaced in Class 7 company last time, was another doing his best work late. He may be worth another try at the lowest level, back over further. -
Re: Bbotd 13/2/09 1:45 Lingfield - Augustus John 1PT WIN Likely to be a short price but, just as likely to start 2nd fav to Bridgewater Boys. He is still a maiden from 20 starts, 14 of which have been on the all weather. He has been running in Class 5 Maidens, and Class 5 Handicaps, and finding 1 or 2 too good the majority of time. He has been 2nd on all 3 previous runs at Lingfield, 2 over 10f and 1 over c&d Has been in the top 3 in 12/20 of his runs and has to get his head in front sometime. Good booking in Tolley Dean, and this drop in class and level should give him his best chance yet of scoring.
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Re: billy the punter's 2009 Diary
Good thread this mate, and pardon the intrusion. Just picking up on the Itshim reference, I didnt realise the form had been that poor, and he landed a bit of a gamble today.11th Feb Again disappointing cards. Despite stepping up to 1m4f and lining up alongside another trailblazer I though Colonel Sherman cold find one more race. It was a step too far however, he paid for having to go too fast early on - as feared it set the race up for the hold up specialist Dishdasha. 12th Feb I decided to back Jordi Roper again as he was stepped upto a mile - although I believe 7f will be his best trip. I haven't watched the race yet but it seems on the analysis that they might've gone too quickly. It's not wise to follow many Class 6 horses, or horses trained by Stewart Parr - I may scrub this one off my list soon. The claimer at Kempton looked match between Blue Tomato and Epic Odyssey - however on closer inspection I thought the latter had a much better chance at the weights. Although on official figures Blue Tomato was a 1lb well in I actually think his rating of 83 is misleading for him - when it's been a while since a horse has run in a handicap so this sort of thing happens quite a bit. Epic Odyssey on the other hand has recent form in handicaps of his mark and on receent form he looked the likely winner. Benhego travelled impressively on his debut for Gary Moore and won well. He was previously with Stuart Williams who landed a gamble earlier in the day. His Itshim won well but had previously been 17th of 17, 10th of 10, 11th of 11 and 5th of 6 beaten a total of 118 lengths - he has to get a tug for this. Back at Southwell I thought Flores Sea was a joke price for the 4.10 - I thought the race would go to either Mrs Bun who loves the surface or recent seller winner Obe Royal. C&D is key to Obe Royal and he got up following another great Paul Doe ride. I wouldn't write Mrs Bun off, she travels well when given daylight but for some reason Winston decided to cover her up, I really don't think this suited her. At Nad Al Sheba, Yamal looked decent, been a fan of this horse for a year now - interesting that he went to Godolphin rather than any of their UAE trainers - they must be thinking Europe with this horse this season. In the 3.15 my horse Royal Power ran - it was his 3rd run in Dubai this season and his best effort to date, he was stopped for a run on the turn and as a result lost a length or two. He picked up well though, running on to finish 4th, was on E/W at 25/1. Bah! Very encouraging run though, nice bit of prize money and bodes well for the future, he is a very decent horse. -
Re: Jumps Season 08/09 - Antepost Bets & Horses To Follow
Not a trends punter personally. I think last year's 2nd King Johns Castle has a great chance. On 10st 10lbs currently. Has been raised 11lbs for last year's 2nd' date=' but very much unexposed and the fact he's been aimed at the race after reports suggested he is out for the season, makes me think this can be his year. The top weight should be a good horse this year and KJC would remain on a decent racing weight. Last year the reports were that McCoy will ride him, but he chose Butlers Cabin in the end. I won't mind Paul Carberry again though. Took the 50/1 when trainer said horse is back in training and his setback is well over. I see he is 33/1 only at one bookie now and 25/1,20/1 elsewhere. If he performs well this weekend at Leopardstown, he could be far lower price. For me he's still very much unexposed and is a typical grand national horse. Won't be surprised if McCoy choses him this term :ok[/quote'] Im already on him @ 25's mate. As for McCoy, won't he be likely to be riding Can't Buy Time? -
Re: Chepstow 12/2
1:40 - Intensifier E/W @ 9/2 ==== 2nd @ 4/1 :clap 2:10 - Jigsaw Dancer E/W @ 11/2 ==== P/U, Disappointing 2:45 - The Gossmoor Yank WIN @ 11/10 ==== 2nd @ 6/5, Very one paced, disappointing, but perhaps beaten by a good horse. 3:20 - Presenting Copper WIN @ 7/4 ==== 7th @ 9/4, Ran a shocker, never looked like landing a blow, even when travelling well. 3:55 - Pretty Star WIN @ 11/4 ==== 3rd @ 4/1 :@, I still believe had he not made the running and sat just off the pace, then he would have won, tired because he made all the running, travelling best of all 3 out before fading. 4:30 - Finmere E/W @ 25/1 ==== 6th @ 12/1, Backed off the board, Looked like being involved, ran in snatches but made no impression near the end of the race. Will be an interesting horse in modest handicaps. 5:00 - Secret Stash E/W @ 8/1 ==== Won @ 6/1, brilliant display, and given a fantastic ride by TJ Murphy. :clap Secret Stash stopped me making a massive loss on the day, so a small loss but good just to grab a winner and beating SP on both my winning bets today was also a bonus.No massive reasoning' date= just a few lines All prices were taken with Bet365 as BOG 1:40 - Intensifier E/W @ 9/2 2 and 3 runs ago were on soft ground and he didnt show very much at all, but showed great improvement LTO when finshing second on heavy surface behind Carrickboy, similar improvement again could see him land this. 2:10 - Jigsaw Dancer E/W @ 11/2 The makings of a high class chaser. Wasnt disgraced in losing to subsequent winner Heathcote, and ahead of Oiseau de Nuit and Farmers Lad 2 starts ago, who have since run with a fair amount of credit. Will appreciate the ground, and looks overpirced to me. 2:45 - The Gossmoor Yank WIN @ 11/10 C&D winner, and the main market rival has never seen a hurdle in public or been as far as 2m3f. Providing he handles heavy, the selection should be able to win and win well. 3:20 - Presenting Copper WIN @ 7/4 Hardly an original choice but he really should win, or definitely go close. Course specialist, who loves the mud. Only defeat in the last 3 races came at the hands of Herecomesthetruth, who has since gone on and landed a nice touch ahead of Massini's Maguire. Looks the one to beat. 3:55 - Pretty Star WIN @ 11/4 Backed him LTO, when he just failed to peg back Strawberry. Hopefully Aiden Coleman will race him a bit closer to the pace today, and if he does then there is no reason why he cannot go on and score against a field where there are little question marks over a few. Notabotherforme is a live danger, but looks a little short. 4:30 - Finmere E/W @ 25/1 Taking a chance with this one as as yet none of the other horses in the field look as if they will really appreciate 3m on heavy whereas the selection was still going well enough when finishing 4th on heavy LTO, and if he gets his jumping together could very well get himself involved at a big price. Will definitely stay the 3m, its whether or not he is quick enough. 5:00 - Secret Stash E/W @ 8/1 Finished a somewhat distant 5th on debut on heavy ground at Newbury, but ran well in snatches. Bound to improve for that run and getting weight from most of the principals, as long as there is some improvement, it could be enough to be in the frame as we know the animal will handle the ground fine. -
Re: Denman
Didnt Neptunes make a glaring error at the last as well??? and was still gaining on Kauto?Rondetto, It may well be the second half of the race was quicker, particularly the back straight. But the other times on the day were (according to the Racing Post): slow by 15.4 sec, 16.2 sec, 10.8 sec (2m), 19.1 sec, 22.2, 421.2 sec (surely not), 11.6 sec (2m) and 12.4 sec (2m). As you would expect on soft going, the races at 2 miles had the faster times (compared to the standard times). Denman's overall time over 3m2f 110 yrds was 8.8 sec slow. So not only was it the fastest time (closer to the standard time than any other race on the day). But per furlong it was significantly faster. You must have missed that when you looked at the over all time. As far as staying the trip goes. I suppose you could say Kauto Star stays the trip. But his best form (by some way) is over shorter. That could just be because of those runs being at Cheltenham or just not at his best. I do believe Denman may well have beaten Kauto by further had he not been given quite such an aggressive ride. Tired badly after the last. So yes, Kauto was gaining on Denman at the end, but Neptunes was gaining on Kauto. Ginge -
Re: Chepstow 12/2
Wonder if he took my last tip though?? :cow:lol He ignored yours RB, I posted the only winner on the thread (I think) and take all the stick! :loon Pretty poor selections today on this thread it has to be said but imo it gets no worse than this and most days the threads are in profit. -
Re: Best Bet of the Day 12-02-2009
Nice one mate. Thats a good win, and a cracking ride by Jimmy Quinn.:ok Not particularly good etiquette though, to be coming on and posting your result, after the race without putting it up beforehand??Selection Selection Details Result 1 Southwell 13:50 Race winner 2009-02-12 13:50:00 All In The Red @ 14/1 (each-way 1/4 1,2) Win Channel Internet Bet Placed At 12/02/2009 Bet Type Single Stake Per Line £5.00 Number Of Lines 2 Total Stake Paid £10.00 Total Tax @0.00% (Stake) £0.00 Winning lines 2 Losing lines 0 Void Lines 0 Returns £97.50 not bad ::nana -
Re: Chepstow 12/2
Im glad he didnt follow my 7 today :lol:lolSurely even you are knowledgable enough to know that to judge a tipster on one day's tips is ridiculous :eyes -
Re: Chepstow 12/2
You are :moonHowever Spooner is only about 800pts infront on horse racing since joining Punters Lounge. I must be crap. I will enjoy reading your selections tomorrow denon. :ok -
Re: Best Bet of the Day 12-02-2009
FFS!!! I was hoping he would be nearer the pace, not being the ******* pace!!!! Was travelling better than anything 3 fences outr, but ultimately when asked for an effort, nothing was there. :sad3:55 Chepstow - Pretty Star 1pt WIN Backed him LTO, when he just failed to peg back Strawberry. Hopefully Aiden Coleman will race him a bit closer to the pace today, and if he does then there is no reason why he cannot go on and score against a field where there are little question marks over a few. Notabotherforme is a live danger, but looks a little short. -
Re: Placepots!! What are your views???
:ok Again, this would only realistically affect the bigger/multi perms punter though?What I meant by poor value RB, was that Nanny has a bigger percentage take out than most if not all other bets. Ginge -
Re: Ascot 14th Feb (Valentines)
5 declared runners Voy Por Ustedes Gwanako Knowhere Tamarinbleu The Sawyer The Sawyer running at Chepstow today, so a 4 horse race looks likely, bit disappointing that, but will be good to see VPU getting a run out.So, the big race on Saturday is the Betfair chase. Anyone got any early fancies for it...? By the way, the weather does not look like being very clever the back end of this week. Fingers crossed the track doesn't waterlog... -
Re: Ascot 14th Feb (Valentines) ASCOT EXPECT TO BEAT FREEZE [email=Your%20friend's%20email%20address?subject=ASCOT EXPECT TO BEAT FREEZE | Sporting Life - Horse Racing News | Live Racing Results, Racecards, Racing News, Racing Tips, Betting Shows.&body=I found this story on Sporting Life, thought you'd be interested: http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/09/02/12/manual_121240.html]
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Ascot clerk of the course Chris Stickels is optimistic Saturday's star-studded card will beat the weather.
"Currently we're still heavy, waterlogged in places, but I think these waterlogged areas will disappear by tonight with any luck," he said on Thursday morning.
"We've got a bright, sunny, breezy morning. It was minus two last night, but we're frost-free now and we've got covers on protecting it as well.
"The forecast is for the prospect of wintry showers tonight and then a slight frost tomorrow morning.
"There's talk of minus two on Saturday, but we should be able to cope with that.
"Providing the forecast is correct, and it doesn't get any colder than that, we should be all right.
"We may have to call a precautionary inspection on Saturday morning just in case it gets colder than is forecast.
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Re: Placepots!! What are your views??? Just to add, the biggest return I ever had off a placepot was £900 + change, and that was from a 50p stake, (I think the PP paid £1800 to a £1 stake). Was @ Taunton in late dec '07, and I can't remember what horses I had, just remember that Or Bleu was the one I had in the last leg and it finished 2nd @ 7/2. I finished 2nd in every race in the PP that day, but picked up a big pay day. Once again represents good value for the small punter.
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Re: Best Bet of the Day 12-02-2009
5.15 KEMP JESSICA WIGMO is a CD winner here and won well on monday' date=' i feel safebreaker is to short and only won 2 easy races previous and he has yet to master kempton, therefore i will take him on with Jessica at 3-1.[/quote'] :welcome to PL and GL with your bet mate, -
Re: Placepots!! What are your views???
If you are perming it with loads of horses then yes, its poor value but if you limit it and get it up with single lines or even 1x2x1x2x1x1 or something similar then it can be decent value, even with 6 favs placing. The Kempton Placepot I got the other day was for a £1 stake, for a single line (as all my placepots are unless there is a 3 horse race in which I back all 3) and paid 132 times that. That in itself doesn't represent poor value, as the e/w acca would have paid less for the same staking level. Billy made a point that you would get the same for 6 3/10 places as you would for 6 25/1 places, which is a valid point, but in all realism, who is going to land 6 x 25/1 places on a given day??? The chances are far higher of landing the 6 odds on shots. As I said previously, between myself and the mrs its a fun bet, a minor rivalry between studying and pinning the tail on the donkey so to speak. (she does the studying :lol), but over the past few years they have represented to us (minor punters), excellent value. To the major players staking hundreds upon hundreds every day and using all sorts of perms at every meeting, of course it represents shit value.Only done the placepot once, winning it with two lines. Put it on for my uncle (not a gambler) to keep him interested during the afternoon. He thought he was going to win a packet. But all bar one fav was placed and the bet made a loss. Never again! I think I am right in saying the Tote take out percentage is vey high on placepots. It is a poor value bet. Ginge -
Re: Best Bet of the Day 12-02-2009 3:55 Chepstow - Pretty Star 1pt WIN Backed him LTO, when he just failed to peg back Strawberry. Hopefully Aiden Coleman will race him a bit closer to the pace today, and if he does then there is no reason why he cannot go on and score against a field where there are little question marks over a few. Notabotherforme is a live danger, but looks a little short.
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Re: Chepstow 12/2 No massive reasoning, just a few lines All prices were taken with Bet365 as BOG 1:40 - Intensifier E/W @ 9/2 2 and 3 runs ago were on soft ground and he didnt show very much at all, but showed great improvement LTO when finshing second on heavy surface behind Carrickboy, similar improvement again could see him land this. 2:10 - Jigsaw Dancer E/W @ 11/2 The makings of a high class chaser. Wasnt disgraced in losing to subsequent winner Heathcote, and ahead of Oiseau de Nuit and Farmers Lad 2 starts ago, who have since run with a fair amount of credit. Will appreciate the ground, and looks overpirced to me. 2:45 - The Gossmoor Yank WIN @ 11/10 C&D winner, and the main market rival has never seen a hurdle in public or been as far as 2m3f. Providing he handles heavy, the selection should be able to win and win well. 3:20 - Presenting Copper WIN @ 7/4 Hardly an original choice but he really should win, or definitely go close. Course specialist, who loves the mud. Only defeat in the last 3 races came at the hands of Herecomesthetruth, who has since gone on and landed a nice touch ahead of Massini's Maguire. Looks the one to beat. 3:55 - Pretty Star WIN @ 11/4 Backed him LTO, when he just failed to peg back Strawberry. Hopefully Aiden Coleman will race him a bit closer to the pace today, and if he does then there is no reason why he cannot go on and score against a field where there are little question marks over a few. Notabotherforme is a live danger, but looks a little short. 4:30 - Finmere E/W @ 25/1 Taking a chance with this one as as yet none of the other horses in the field look as if they will really appreciate 3m on heavy whereas the selection was still going well enough when finishing 4th on heavy LTO, and if he gets his jumping together could very well get himself involved at a big price. Will definitely stay the 3m, its whether or not he is quick enough. 5:00 - Secret Stash E/W @ 8/1 Finished a somewhat distant 5th on debut on heavy ground at Newbury, but ran well in snatches. Bound to improve for that run and getting weight from most of the principals, as long as there is some improvement, it could be enough to be in the frame as we know the animal will handle the ground fine.
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Re: Chepstow 12/2 Fcuk Me!!!! Just Gone Through The Card And Deleted My Post Due To Tabbed Browsing!!!
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Re: Chepstow 12/2 Its On
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Re: Chepstow 12/2
:hope:hopeAh shit I thought it passed the 8:30am inspection and that was it. :wall Betfair is down for everyone.... Fingers crossed it goes ahead.
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Re: My selections
True mate. 1 to go still as well.