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black rabbit reacted to yossa6133 in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
Trainer form maybe, always something I think I should pay more attention to!
What the actual ground is compared to the going description i.e working your ratings out after the time of first race is known. Saw someone say recently that they never bet on the first race for this reason.
Temperature, there must be horses out there that only perform when it's warm. Not seen much about this but it would make sense.
Market mover? Drifted like a barge or smashed in.
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black rabbit reacted to Trotter in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
I like to keep things simple !
I mainly look at handicaps and at the following .........
class movement - obviously dropping in class preferred, this related to handicap marks
trip - D win or some reason why a horse might improve for a new trip
going
track configuration (particularly uphill finishes, straight/bend)
I look at the last 3 as a combined factor trip/track/going ......... will the horse be effective at this trip on this track on today's going
that's mainly it
I will check trainer form to see if the yard is horribly out of form or banging winners in left, right and centre
and draw if the trip/track/going favours one side
Days since run I might look at to see how a horse goes after a break (this combined with trainer form)
these last few things mainly to see if there's any reason to abandon a selection I've made by looking at class and trip/track/going
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black rabbit reacted to richard-westwood in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
Made me laugh .....my computer uses 17 of your list as I worked down so they must all have a big effect ...lol 🤣
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black rabbit reacted to MCLARKE in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
When I first started betting back in the early 80s I used to follow tipsters, mostly Newsboy from the Daily Mirror (a good socialist rag). I struggled to make a profit, probably because his tips were widely followed.
As I am always on the quest for value rather than winners it might make sense to bet against popular tipsters as their selections are probably overbet.
My data doesn't include such tipsters data so it's not an area I can really comment on with authority.
Spread betting (for racing) still on my to do list !
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black rabbit reacted to harry_rag in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
To be flippant, who’s tipped a horse on here when I’ve got a freebie or offer to utilise! But, for some people maybe tipster selections/naps can be a positive or negative signals as part of a selection process.
Then there’s spread betting prices, something I suspect hardly any racing punters would pay any heed to. Probably a red herring as my gut feel is they wouldn’t be of much use for that sport, but they’re hugely predictive for me in betting on goal and tryscorers so, if I was ever going to take a proper tilt at betting on racing I’d want to explore that angle if only to eliminate it
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black rabbit reacted to MCLARKE in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
There has been debate in the Speed Ratings thread about the importance of going and distance. This has raised the question about which are the most important variables to consider when making selections. I will start with my list in order of importance. Please fell free to comment or add your own lists.
Odds (both current race and previous race, exclude long odds)
Days since last run (higher preferred)
Race distance v distance of previous races
Finishing position of previous runs (not including last run)
Draw (this list is for flat racing only)
Number of runs
Number of runs (current season)
Going
Weight
Class movement
Country horse bred in
Race distance
Claiming jockey
Winning / losing distance of last race
Turf / AW
Weight v previous run
Official Rating
Finish position last run
Same / different jockey
Same / different course
Number of runners in previous race
Sex of horse
Age
Previous course
Handicap / non handicap
Official rating v last run
Official rating v last winning run
Maiden / non maiden
Course winner
Races since last win
Month
Course
Distance winner
Beaten favourite
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black rabbit reacted to Brahmin in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
😱 👍 soooo close but still a 'winner' coming 2nd by a nose! ......yes its 'Blonde logic' as i had Surrey Quest in our Scottish National sweepstake in our Salon, so enough to pay for 2 x Bottles white wine to go with our Indian takeaway this evening 👌..... as we unwind from day of Grandparents duty 🙄
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black rabbit got a reaction from Brahmin in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit reacted to harry_rag in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Would you believe that's the hat trick!
Had a fiver with a 50% odds boost. Shame I didn't roll them over as a treble!
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black rabbit reacted to Antonio Margarettii in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Scottish National - w'ellhaveyawan 33/1 ew
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black rabbit reacted to Tedthewolf in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Scottish National
1.5pt e/w 6 places BOG on both IRON BRIDGE 25/1 & TOMMIE BEAU 33/1
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black rabbit reacted to richard-westwood in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Wow
..that was a bit of a head scratcher race ....no where to be seen .... 1.5 PT profit on the day ....it's still more than I started 🤣
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black rabbit got a reaction from BBBC in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit reacted to The Equaliser in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
B/Fwd L15's -62.62, RC P/L - 91.52
Had 3 0.10 L15's on the Daily = 4.50 points
2.25 Ayr Favour And FOrtune 1 pt win at 5/1 and Fromt street 0.50 win at 11/1
= 6 points staked for 12 races of entertainment.
Good luck to all; it's a busy day
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black rabbit reacted to MGC in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
150 A Donny Boy 14/1 ew 1/5 4 places bet365
Racingpost Top speed
First time cheek pieces: Alexander 1/4 ( 25%) p1 this year.
Alexander is 21% at track this year +24
56% in getting a place ( inc. 4 places ) in all handicaps this year.
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black rabbit got a reaction from Bedlam in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit got a reaction from MinellaWorksop in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit got a reaction from The Equaliser in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit reacted to MGC in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
705 Thirsk
To Catch A Thief 3/1 on stats
Haggas for owner in 2023 8 from 21, with 4 2nds, 4 3rds.
E Oppenheimer at Thirsk 2023, 1 from 1.
Haggas sends one to Thirsk tomorrow and Cieren Fallon rides.
Fallon on Oppenheimer horses 2022 2/6, 2023 5/8.
Haggas at Thirsk 2022 5/11 45%, 2023 2/6 33%.
GB Flat last 5 seasons Jan 2020 - Dec 2024GB Flat last 5 seasons Jan 2020 - Dec 2024GB Flat current season Jan 2024 - Dec 2024IRE Flat last 5 seasons Jan 2020 - Dec 2024IRE Flat current season Jan 2023 - Dec 2023 -
black rabbit reacted to Striker in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
7.40 Thirsk-Hailey Ya Mal
First signs in last run that the ability is there to win a race like this
Each Way [5 places] @ 20-1 with Bet 365
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black rabbit got a reaction from anaconda69 in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit got a reaction from The Brigadier in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit got a reaction from Gary66 in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts
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black rabbit got a reaction from richard-westwood in Racing chat -Saturday 20th april
Forza Orta 7 05 Ths/ 1/40th of a pt ew 20/1
Expressionless 5 00 Neb/ 1/40th of a pt ew 16/1
We'llhavewan 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 44/1
Iron Bridge 3 35 Ayr/ 1/40th of a pt ew 33/1
Racingbreak Ryder 3 15 Gw/ 1/40th of a pt ew 36/1
First Street 2 25 Ayr/ 1/40 th of a pt ew 14/1
Fast Tara 2 45 Cur/ 1/40th of a pt ew 22/1
P/L + 177.35pts