Doing deals at the final table

[muttley]

Do most people do deals at the final table? Is there an etiquette? I used to play tournament chess and the etiquette there was simple. Either player can offer a draw, but once it has been turned down he cannot offer it again, only his opponent can. If one's opponent subsequently offers a draw which you refuse, then you can ask for a draw a second time. What are the rules for poker?

[ubermonkey1]

Re: Doing deals at the final table no real specific rule or etiquette in general. you can offer as many times as you like and offer whatever you like,obviously you want to make as good an offer as you think they'll take while making it as advantagous to you as possible. sometimes you get someone completely against any sort of deal :\ had this in ceasers once,got down to 4 players all very evenly chipped and its about half 3 in the morning.3 of us wanted to deal the 4th guy didnt,we played for another hour and a half with the 3 of us badgering him every 10-15 mins but he didnt budge,i ended up going out 4th:puke on other occasions i've seen whole final tables do a deal immediately or taken a little out of the pot to spread the payout further(say it pays 8 they might pay 9 or 10 and take a little off 1st 2nd 3rd,so all sorts of deals are possible. some events do try to ban or regulate deals but it's pretty impossible to do as players will deal in private,strangely enough even tho there can be a large amount of money at stake it's very rare you hear of someone welching on a deal.

[dank]

Re: Doing deals at the final table I am all for a deal at the FT. after playing for a few hours and making it ITM, you just want to end it. the diffrence is not very big once you make the deal.

[muttley]

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I am all for a deal at the FT. after playing for a few hours and making it ITM' date=' you just want to end it. the diffrence is not very big once you make the deal.[/quote'] Ok. So is that the norm? If a mid size stack said "No. Let's play on.", would you just shrug your shoulders and continue?

[McG]

Re: Doing deals at the final table Just got back from Vegas and (wrongly, as it truned out) turned down a deal, but I thought I was doing it for the right reasons. 7pm $75 game at Mirage, about 32 runners, top 5 paid, and we're down to the last 3 after 4 hours when the other 2 suggest a 3-way even chop for $424 each (prizes were $606, $377 and $289). I was against this for 2 key reasons - I had a small chip lead (around 35k to their 30k each), but they both looked even more nervous than I felt, and keener for the chop, so I felt the deal was a bad one. I should have argued for a healthier part of the deal but just flatly refused, played on, lost a big pot when my Ah8h ran in to the BB's QQ, but finished up in 2nd. As this was my first experience of being involved at very much the business end of a live chop, I don't know what my approach could or should have been. The Poker Room are keen to free the table and dealer at the earliest opportunity, although any sharing out of funds was a private arrangement, but what would others have done in my position?

[ubermonkey1]

Re: Doing deals at the final table i would have taken the deal myself, or at least tried for a 450/400/400 split:\ as it happens you didnt really lose much ,anything can happen and unless you win your not gonna do better out of it ,even then its only $180 more.

[muttley]

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Just got back from Vegas and (wrongly, as it truned out) turned down a deal, but I thought I was doing it for the right reasons. 7pm $75 game at Mirage, about 32 runners, top 5 paid, and we're down to the last 3 after 4 hours when the other 2 suggest a 3-way even chop for $424 each (prizes were $606, $377 and $289). I was against this for 2 key reasons - I had a small chip lead (around 35k to their 30k each), but they both looked even more nervous than I felt, and keener for the chop, so I felt the deal was a bad one. I should have argued for a healthier part of the deal but just flatly refused, played on, lost a big pot when my Ah8h ran in to the BB's QQ, but finished up in 2nd. As this was my first experience of being involved at very much the business end of a live chop, I don't know what my approach could or should have been. The Poker Room are keen to free the table and dealer at the earliest opportunity, although any sharing out of funds was a private arrangement, but what would others have done in my position?

What was the reaction of the other players when you asked to play on?

[McG]

Re: Doing deals at the final table

What was the reaction of the other players when you asked to play on?

Neither looked particularly happy about it, which made me even more convinced that it had been the right move. :\ They didn't push it, and I got the distinct impression that they were as new to the business end as I was.

[muttley]

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Neither looked particularly happy about it, which made me even more convinced that it had been the right move. :\

Ah, McG, you're thinking like me! I played a few cash games in a US run casino a couple of weeks back, mostly against Americans. I was BB and the action got folded to the SB, who asked me if I wanted to chop the blinds i.e he takes his SB back and I take my BB back. I'm thinking "I've got position and you've just told me you don't like your hand. No way!" I then became known as the-guy-who-doesn't-chop. Back to final table deals. I feel I would deal if.... 1) I felt my opponent(s) were noticably better players than me. 2) I was tired 3) The money was sufficiently high. If that upsets anyone on the night, good, and if that means they won't do a deal with me the next time then so be it.