Nade Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com MP ($100) CO ($109.30) Button ($103.10) Hero (SB) ($100) BB ($139.55) UTG ($146.20) Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10 2 folds, CO calls $1, Button bets $5, Hero raises $18.50, 2 folds, Button calls $14 Flop: ($40) 9, Q, 2 (2 players) Hero checks, Button bets $29, Hero raises $81 (All-In), Button calls $52 Turn: ($202) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($202) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $202 Results: Button had 7, 7 (two pair, sevens and twos). Hero had 10, 10 (two pair, tens and twos). Outcome: Hero won $199 Discuss. The guy tanked for the 15seconds plus a good 40 seconds before calling. What i remember from the situation is thinking the guy wouldn't bet out so big with a big Q, he'd want to induce a shove with a weaker bet. And pressing all in is a lot more fun then pressing fold :unsure Ok most of the time to play it like this is spew and i have no great analysis to why i did shove it just felt right at the time and it worked out. I can only think they called because my c/r AI looks so obviously like a big hand that i actually wouldnt do it with a big hand. Just shows what value you can get from unlikely situations. FWIW I bluff AI with little equity so rarely that i know this isn't a leak whereby i'm bluffing off my stack all the time, i so rarely do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlydaveLDN Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Re: Thin Value That looks to me (assuming he has a high Steal + C-Bet%) to be a pretty standard spot to CR AI. Any idea what his steal + c-bet stats are (2 of the most important to have on a HUD IMO)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Re: Thin Value Just checked up his stats and have 90hands. He's VP:17 PF:17 Fold to 3B: 33%, CBet: 83%, steal from bttn: 50%. I'm interested to hear why you say it's standard to c/r AI here. Ithink it's mostly spew but thoughts welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfaz Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Re: Thin Value I think the best play would certainly have been to c-bet. He most likely would have folded and you would have won the pot. His play was pretty terrible, his preflop raise to $5 was too big imo and he should have folded to your raise. Also, the check looks very suspicious and i would have probably checked behind and re-evaluated on the turn. I think your check-raise was fairly transparent tbh, most likely JJ or 10s in my experience, but you managed to get your stack in with a 90% equity so you must have done something right here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlydaveLDN Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Re: Thin Value Just checked up his stats and have 90hands. He's VP:17 PF:17 Fold to 3B: 33%, CBet: 83%, steal from bttn: 50%. I'm interested to hear why you say it's standard to c/r AI here. Ithink it's mostly spew but thoughts welcome. I actually misread your original post, and didn't notice that's you'd 3-bet pre flop. In that case I think you've got to bet the flop. But once you have checked, I'd be check-calling, as it's very unlikely that he'll call your all in with a worse hand (he did here, but it's very very unusual that you'll be ahead to a call here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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