happygooner Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Odds on shot turned over, next one beaten by a horse which went off at 180 SP on betfair:wall:wall:wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Beaten by an 80/1 rag.....goddamn somebody doesn't like me:@ Slightly more bearable that it was also beaten by the favourite I guess:eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts That's as close as I get to win at the moment with this shit. It went to evens in running:wall:@:wall:@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Not one win today. Another day like this tomorrow and I'm going to have make it a paper trial for now:eyes Just cannot understand the mire it's going through at the moment. It is by far and away the worst by a country mile that the system would have performed in over 2 and a half years.:sad I know I keep saying this over and over and over again but it's the truth:$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Advice needed Hmmm, well it seems that I missed a 15/8 winner and in fact included 2 horses that by the time they went off didn't qualify. For anybody who is looking I wonder if I may ask some advice. Because at the moment I can't check as to whether something is a qualifier just before the race I have two options: 1) I either place them all and hope any non qualifiers that lose are balanced out by those non qualifiers that win. And any missed qualfiers that win are balanced out by those that lose. 2) If the going on which this selection is based has changed overnight or leading up to the race I avoid the selection and move on to the next. Basically the speed estimation ratings are so badly affected by the going at times that it could almost be random. Without those speed estimate ratings the expected s/r goes down from 37.30% to around just over 30% and there appears to be no way I can replicate this based on factors not given to change. So....I open up the floor:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 14:30 Catterick - Feeling Fab - lost -2.00:( 15:00 Catterick - Nelsons Column - lost -2.00:(:( 15:30 Catterick - Wind Star - lost -2.00:(:(:( 17:50 Roscommon - The Fist Of God - lost -2.00:sad -8.00 & 0.00%:cry 19-39 (32.76%) & +2.92 overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Here we go again then... I'm gonna back these to place also as it may help the volatility of a long line of losers. Won't be including these place bets in the thread though as long term it shouldn't be as profitable. 14:30 Brighton - Saharan Royal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 14:50 Newcastle - Needwood Lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 16:20 Newcastle - Calcutta Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 16:30 Brighton - Ogre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 17:25 Gowran Park - Born To Be King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 17:45 Sligo - Dubitante 19:20 Kempton - Andhaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 19:25 Gowran Park - Reload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tafflizgreg Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts doing yhe business so far today:clap:clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 7:55 - beat the rain 20:05 - askar tau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Apologies for the last posting but I was stuck in a hospital car park with only a dieing mobile and had to enlist my little brothers help:lol In any case I may start to post the place bets also as today worked well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 14:30 Brighton - Saharan Royal - placed -2.00:( 14:50 Newcastle - Needwood Lad @ 3.20 - won +4.18:) 16:20 Newcastle - Calcutta Cup - lost -2.00:( 16:30 Brighton - Ogre @ 4.75 - won +7.13:) 17:25 Gowran Park - Born To Be King @ 1.57 - won +1.08:) 17:45 Sligo - Dubitante - placed -2.00:( 19:20 Kempton - Andhaar - placed -2.00:( 19:25 Gowran Park - Reload - lost -2.00:( 19:55 Gowran Park - Beat The Rain - placed -2.00:( 20:05 Yarmouth - Askar Tau @ 1.40 - won +76p:) 4-6 (40.00%) & +1.15 today 23-45 (33.82%) & +4.07 overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Well after yesterday I've got to be pleased with anything I can get but all told it was a disappointing night with only the short prices managing to win. On the other side of the coin I managed to place 8/10 horses today and made profit of over 9pts (including Dubitante which was 3.85 just to place) so I would be a fool not to include these from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Thanks to Betfair SP I managed to get some better odds yesterday which helped counter changes with qualifiers. Turns out Calcutta Cup, Reload & Beat The Rain were not in fact qualifiers by the end. By the same turn of events I did manage to pick up all the winners and also missed out on Bijou Dan which was a qualifier and couldn't even place. I feel the place bets will help to counter this for now. In the long run however, horesracebase.com do plan to try and include a facility where going can be changed on racecards in order that selections can be checked at the last minute. In short the postings here should, over time, begin to resemble more closely the actual system qualifiers anybody would see if backchecking these:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Point to note: Todays selections will all be played 2pt win/2pt place. On with the show... 15:00 Brighton - Cavendish Road 15:10 Haydock - Hunt The Bottle 15:30 Brighton - Glencal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 16:20 Yarmouth - Rampant Ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 17:10 Sligo - Ashka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 17:30 Tipperary - Sugar Free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 18:25 Bath - Rioliina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 18:45 Sligo - Theocritus 18:50 Sandown - Dreamwalk 19:00 Bath - Frame And Cover 19:05 Tipperary - Westphalia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 15:00 Brighton - Cavendish Road @ 3.15/1.93 - won +4.09:)/+1.77:) 15:10 Haydock - Hunt The Bottle - lost -2.00:(/-2.00:( 15:30 Brighton - Glencal - lost -2.00:(/-2.00:( 16:20 Yarmouth - Rampant Ronnie - lost -2.00:(/-2.00:( 17:10 Sligo - Ashka @ 3.81/1.43 - placed -2.00:(/+82p:) 17:30 Tipperary - Sugar Free @ 1.73/1.11 - won +1.39:)/+20p:) 18:25 Bath - Rioliina @ 4.68/1.58 - won +7.00:)/+1.10:) 18:45 Sligo - Theocritus @ 4.20/1.13 - placed -2.00:(/+25p:) 18:50 Sandown - Dreamwalk - lost -2.00:(/-2.00:( 19:00 Bath - Frame And Cover - lost -2.00:(/-2.00:( 19:05 Tipperary - Westphalia @ 2.22/1.33 - won +2.32:)/+63p:) That's typical - I include placings in my postings for the first time and ensure a losing day:eyes Win bets 4-7 (36.36%) & +80p today 27-52 (34.18%) & +4.87 overall Place bets 6-5 (54.55%) & -5.23 to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 8, 2008 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Well after I saw quite a few winners go romping in early yesterday on almost selections I naturally began to think that changes in the going could have mean that these became qualifiers I missed out on. As it happens they weren't qualifiers and neither were the 2 winners Cavendish Road & Westphalia as well as Hunt The Bottle which lost. So all being said the system continues to struggle and can hopefully expect a major upturn very shortly:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 8, 2008 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts Here's the first for today then... 14:40 Lingfield - Olimpo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 8, 2008 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 16:20 Lingfield - Englishtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted August 8, 2008 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 Re: HRB Ratings System - Horses to Back +17.59pts 17:20 Worcester - Standing Order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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