slapdash Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs I'm "slapdash", he's "Telepee". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs I'll be with you :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs I reckon JJ could be VERY good at this ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs GaF?, are you being sarcastic again? :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs loool - not at all mate :ok I presume the reason I cannot find 4 colour decks is that they dont do them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs I presume the reason I cannot find 4 colour decks is that they dont do them? I couldn't find them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs A tip, GaF: If you stand up when you're all-in, it looks a bit silly if everybody else has folded by the time you get out of your seat! :lol Nice legs, though. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs lol Next one guys :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs That was... Bleurgh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs lol - that went well - next empty room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs I won $29.99 in the other one though (a $10 one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Yeah, am up for the next one :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Sorry my PC crashed - next one (Slap out first hand in other ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Sorry my PC crashed - next one (Slap out first hand in other ;) ) Again?! Or are you telling the rest of them about the one we played?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs lol - no - again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Were we laughing at slap? :$ Think that's my lot - I've wiped my bankroll out!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs You're not exactly showing tons of staying power yourself, to be fair! :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Blah - GaF, I was fine in the one without you in, I think you're dragging me down to your standards!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Were we laughing at slap? :$ I expect so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs I'm 36c short of another game - time to hit the cash tables I think :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Interesting - no minimum buy in on the cash tables :loon - I've just bought in for 5xBB!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs lol - no I haven't - I've bought in for half a BB (decimal in wrong place :loon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs ok - I have enough for another game :loon :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs lol - no I haven't - I've bought in for half a BB ... sometimes known as a SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Sorry my PC crashed - next one (Slap out first hand in other ;) ) Again?! Or are you telling the rest of them about the one we played?! lol - no - again I played five of these last night for $5.50 each. I won nothing in three of them (including the two where I was out first hand, obviously), and won $42.50 and $31.25 in the other two. I'm quite happy with a 168% ROI, even if it does mean I get laughed at. :tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Nice one slap :ok Was dreaming about this (:unsure - there you can laugh at me now too!!) trying to work out optimal strategy...... came to the conclusion that there's something to be said for going all in every hand until you double up (or go out) - also worth showing that you're doing it with crap to encourage looser calls.... If you get through hand 1 (just picking up 10/20 blinds) then you are chip leader and so noone can knock you out (though they can hurt you badly obviously!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Here's a thought experiment that I think illustrates how different this is from normal STTs. A $10 10-player STT. Suppose the nine other players go all-in first hand without looking at their cards. What should your strategy be? Compare a normal STT with $50/$30/$20 prize structure and this structure. Let's ignore the possibility of a split pot for simplicity (though the fact that a split pot is possible will make the conclusion a bit less clear, I admit). If you fold, you're left heads-up against a player who has nine times as many chips as you. If you're equally skilled, you have about a 10% chance of winning. So in the normal STT, your expected return is $32 (the $30 you're guaranteed for second place plus 10% of the extra $20 for first place). In this structure, your heads-up opponent will have a total bounty of $30 (his original $10 plus $2.50 from each of the other eight players), and you have a bounty of $10, so you have a 10% chance of winning $40: your expected return is $4. If you call and lose, then you win nothing in either structure except that in the normal STT you may get something for 2nd or 3rd place. If you call and win, then you get $50 in the normal structure and $100 in this structure. So in a normal STT, if you call you'd be risking $32 to gain $18 if you wouldn't get any 2nd/3rd place prize money if you lose. Probably a fold even with pocket aces. Even if you'd be guaranteed second place prize money for losing, you'd still be risking $2 to gain $18, so you'd need a better than average hand for calling to be +EV. But in this structure, you'd be risking only $4 to gain $96. You're getting odds of 24/1. Probably a call with any two cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Was dreaming about this (:unsure - there you can laugh at me now too!!) trying to work out optimal strategy...... came to the conclusion that there's something to be said for going all in every hand until you double up (or go out) - also worth showing that you're doing it with crap to encourage looser calls.... If you get through hand 1 (just picking up 10/20 blinds) then you are chip leader and so noone can knock you out (though they can hurt you badly obviously!!) Yes. I'm not yet quite convinced that all-in on hand one with any two cards is the optimal strategy, but I wouldn't discount the possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Out first hand four times in a row this afternoon. :ok I think I'm developing a reputation. :lol At least I'm not playing for an hour to win nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Re: Terminator Xtreme STTs Make that five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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