MetallicIan Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 Re: Draw! These take us up to the 15:00 KO's... Bet 82. English Premier - Chelsea FC v Sunderland AFC @ 6.80 Bet 83. English Premier - Everton FC v Fulham FC @ 4.30 Bet 84. English Premier - Manchester United v Derby County @ 13.00 Bet 85. English Div 1 - Leyton Orient FC v Cheltenham Town @ 3.80 Bet 86. English Div 2 - Chesterfield FC v Bradford City @ 3.95 Bet 87. English Div 2 - Hereford United v Lincoln City @ 3.55 Bet 88. English Div 2 - Milton Keynes Dons FC v Accrington Stanley @ 4.80 Bet 89. English Conference - Aldershot Town v Stafford Rangers @ 5.90 Bet 90. English Conference - Crawley Town v Grays Athletic @ 3.55 Bet 91. English Conference - Histon FC v Woking FC @ 3.70 Bet 92. English Conference - Stevenage Borough v Salisbury City @ 4.00 Bet 93. Italian Serie B - Pisa Calcio v US Avellino @ 3.70 Bet 94. Italian Serie B - UC Albinoleffe v Piacenza Calcio @ 3.20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 Re: Draw! Four Scottish games... Bet 95. Scottish Premier - Celtic Glasgow v St Mirren Paisley @ 11.00 Bet 96. Scottish Div 2 - Raith Rovers Kirkcaldy v Brechin City @ 4.60 Bet 97. Scottish Div 3 - Forfar Athletic v East Fife FC @ 5.40 Bet 98. Scottish Div 3 - Montrose FC v Stenhousemuir FC @ 4.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 Re: Draw! Here's the rest of todays bets... Bet 99. Swiss Super League - FC Luzern v FC Thun @ 3.50 Bet 100. Austrian T-Mobile - LASK Linz v SK Austria Karnten @ 4.10 Bet 101. Austrian T-Mobile - SV Mattersburg v SC Rheindorf Altach @ 4.30 Bet 102. Greek National Liga - Olympiakos Piraeus v Levadiakos FC @ 14.00 Bet 103. English Premier - Reading FC v Liverpool FC @ 4.10 Bet 104. Dutch Eredivisie - Willem II Tilburg v Ajax Amsterdam @ 4.50 Bet 105. Belgian Jupiler - SV Zulte Waregem v FCV Dender EH @ 3.90 Bet 106. Belgian Jupiler - KAA Gent v Sporting Charleroi @ 3.75 Bet 107. French Ligue 1 - SM Caen v Olympique Lyon @ 3.30 Bet 108. French Ligue 1 - AS Saint Etienne v FC Metz @ 4.10 Bet 109. Argentine Clausura - River Plate BA v CA Banfield @ 3.35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 Re: Draw! It's been a great day so far ! Bet 76. Turkish Super League - MKE Ankaragücü v Kasimpasa Istanbul @ 4.10 DRAW Bet 77. English Div 1 - Leeds United v Huddersfield Town @ 4.70 HW Bet 78. German Bundesliga 1 - Bayern München v MSV Duisburg @ 8.80 DRAW Bet 79. German Bundesliga 1 - Hamburger SV v Energie Cottbus @ 5.60 DRAW Bet 80. German Bundesliga 1 - VfL Bochum v Karlsruher SC @ 3.50 DRAW Bet 81. Greek National Liga - PAOK Saloniki v Veria FC @ 4.00 HW Bet 82. English Premier - Chelsea FC v Sunderland AFC @ 6.80 HW Bet 83. English Premier - Everton FC v Fulham FC @ 4.30 HW Bet 84. English Premier - Manchester United v Derby County @ 13.00 HW Bet 85. English Div 1 - Leyton Orient FC v Cheltenham Town @ 3.80 HW Bet 86. English Div 2 - Chesterfield FC v Bradford City @ 3.95 DRAW Bet 87. English Div 2 - Hereford United v Lincoln City @ 3.55 HW Bet 88. English Div 2 - Milton Keynes Dons FC v Accrington Stanley @ 4.80 HW Bet 89. English Conference - Aldershot Town v Stafford Rangers @ 5.90 HW Bet 90. English Conference - Crawley Town v Grays Athletic @ 3.55 POSTP. Bet 91. English Conference - Histon FC v Woking FC @ 3.70 AW Bet 92. English Conference - Stevenage Borough v Salisbury City @ 4.00 HW Bet 93. Italian Serie B - Pisa Calcio v US Avellino @ 3.70 DRAW Bet 94. Italian Serie B - UC Albinoleffe v Piacenza Calcio @ 3.20 HW Bet 95. Scottish Premier - Celtic Glasgow v St Mirren Paisley @ 11.00 DRAW Bet 96. Scottish Div 2 - Raith Rovers Kirkcaldy v Brechin City @ 4.60 DRAW Bet 97. Scottish Div 3 - Forfar Athletic v East Fife FC @ 5.40 AW Bet 98. Scottish Div 3 - Montrose FC v Stenhousemuir FC @ 4.40 HW Profit 213.88 Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 425.78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Re: Draw! agreat day so far yoy say, well whatever happens tonight very well done!!:clap:clap:clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 Re: Draw! agreat day so far yoy say' date=' well whatever happens tonight very well done!!:clap:clap:clap[/quote'] Thanks davy, not such a great end to the day but still a good profit made. :ok Bet 99. Swiss Super League - FC Luzern v FC Thun @ 3.50 AW Bet 100. Austrian T-Mobile - LASK Linz v SK Austria Karnten @ 4.10 HW Bet 101. Austrian T-Mobile - SV Mattersburg v SC Rheindorf Altach @ 4.30 DRAW Bet 102. Greek National Liga - Olympiakos Piraeus v Levadiakos FC @ 14.00 HW Bet 103. English Premier - Reading FC v Liverpool FC @ 4.10 HW Bet 104. Dutch Eredivisie - Willem II Tilburg v Ajax Amsterdam @ 4.50 AW Bet 105. Belgian Jupiler - SV Zulte Waregem v FCV Dender EH @ 3.90 AW Bet 106. Belgian Jupiler - KAA Gent v Sporting Charleroi @ 3.75 HW Bet 107. French Ligue 1 - SM Caen v Olympique Lyon @ 3.30 HW Bet 108. French Ligue 1 - AS Saint Etienne v FC Metz @ 4.10 HW Bet 109. Argentine Clausura - River Plate BA v CA Banfield @ 3.35 AW Loss 68.65 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 357.13 I try to put the bets up at least half an hour before K.O depending on whether they get matched or not so I can get the odds right. Looking forward to tomorrow already... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Draw! Morning all, hopefully another good day in store. Here are todays first bets... Bet 90 takes the slot of the postponed Crawley Town game yesterday... Bet 90. Dutch Eredivisie - VVV Venlo v Feyenoord Rotterdam @ 5.60 Bet 110. German Bundesliga 2 - TSG Hoffenheim v Kickers Offenbach @ 4.20 Bet 111. English Premier - Middlesbrough FC v Arsenal FC @ 4.10 Bet 112. Dutch Eredivisie - SC Heerenveen v FC Groningen @ 3.85 Bet 113. Dutch Eredivisie - Sparta Rotterdam v NEC Nijmegen @ 3.45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Draw! Next lot... Bet 114. German Regionalliga South - VfB Stuttgart II v Oggersheim @ 5.80 Bet 115. Italian Serie A - AS Livorno v AS Roma @ 3.75 Bet 116. Italian Serie A - Juventus FC Torino v Atalanta Bergamo @ 4.50 Bet 117. Italian Serie A - Inter Milan v Torino FC @ 6.00 Bet 118. Greek National Liga - AEK Athens v Apollon Kalamaria @ 7.80 Bet 119. English Premier - Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City @ 3.40 Bet 120. Swiss Super League - Young Boys Bern v FC Sion @ 4.10 Bet 121. Swiss Super League - FC Basel v Neuchatel Xamax @ 5.80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Draw! And more... Bet 122. German Bundesliga 1 - Bayer Leverkusen v Hansa Rostock @ 5.20 Bet 123. Spanish Primera - Villarreal CF v Real Betis Sevilla @ 3.95 Bet 124. Spanish Primera - FC Sevilla v Real Murcia @ 4.70 Bet 125. Spanish Primera - Atletico Madrid v Getafe CF @ 3.90 Bet 126. Spanish Primera - FC Barcelona v Deportivo La Coruña @ 7.20 Bet 127. Greek National Liga - Iraklis Saloniki v Panathinaikos Athens @ 3.75 Bet 128. Belgian Jupiler - Sint Truidense VV v RSC Anderlecht @ 4.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Draw! Final bet today... Bet 129. Polish Ekstraklasa - Wisla Krakow v Zaglebie Lubin @ 4.90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Draw! Not such a great day after all... Bet 90. Dutch Eredivisie - VVV Venlo v Feyenoord Rotterdam @ 5.60 DRAW Bet 110. German Bundesliga 2 - TSG Hoffenheim v Kickers Offenbach @ 4.20 DRAW Bet 111. English Premier - Middlesbrough FC v Arsenal FC @ 4.10 HW Bet 112. Dutch Eredivisie - SC Heerenveen v FC Groningen @ 3.85 HW Bet 113. Dutch Eredivisie - Sparta Rotterdam v NEC Nijmegen @ 3.45 HW Bet 114. German Regionalliga South - VfB Stuttgart II v Oggersheim @ 5.80 HW Bet 115. Italian Serie A - AS Livorno v AS Roma @ 3.75 DRAW Bet 116. Italian Serie A - Juventus FC Torino v Atalanta Bergamo @ 4.50 HW Bet 117. Italian Serie A - Inter Milan v Torino FC @ 6.00 HW Bet 118. Greek National Liga - AEK Athens v Apollon Kalamaria @ 7.80 HW Bet 119. English Premier - Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City @ 3.40 HW Bet 120. Swiss Super League - Young Boys Bern v FC Sion @ 4.10 HW Bet 121. Swiss Super League - FC Basel v Neuchatel Xamax @ 5.80 AW Bet 122. German Bundesliga 1 - Bayer Leverkusen v Hansa Rostock @ 5.20 HW Bet 123. Spanish Primera - Villarreal CF v Real Betis Sevilla @ 3.95 AW Bet 124. Spanish Primera - FC Sevilla v Real Murcia @ 4.70 HW Bet 125. Spanish Primera - Atletico Madrid v Getafe CF @ 3.90 HW Bet 126. Spanish Primera - FC Barcelona v Deportivo La Coruña @ 7.20 HW Bet 127. Greek National Liga - Iraklis Saloniki v Panathinaikos Athens @ 3.75 AW Bet 128. Belgian Jupiler - Sint Truidense VV v RSC Anderlecht @ 4.30 HW Bet 129. Polish Ekstraklasa - Wisla Krakow v Zaglebie Lubin @ 4.80 HW Could have been so different but for a couple of last minute goals (Wisla and Sint Truiden) Loss 79.78 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 277.35 pts System summary so far... Bets 129 Draws 31 SR 24% Yield 6% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Team Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Draw! healthy looking bank. keep it up. disappointing lack of coloured table formatting by your usual standards though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Re: Draw! healthy looking bank. keep it up. disappointing lack of coloured table formatting by your usual standards though. :lol Nice one A-team, here's a graph for you, the bank nearly hit 500 pts at one stage! One bet for later... Bet 130. French Ligue 2 - AC Le Havre v Montpellier HSC @ 3.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Re: Draw! A winning bet tonight... Bet 130. French Ligue 2 - AC Le Havre v Montpellier HSC @ 3.60 DRAW Profit 24.70 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 302.05 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Draw! Can lightning strike twice in the same place again within 4 days??? Bet 131. English Championship - Burnley FC v Queens Park Rangers @ 4.20 Bet 132. English Championship - Ipswich Town v Leicester City @ 3.65 Bet 133. Scottish Premier - Celtic Glasgow v Falkirk FC @ 7.80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 Re: Draw! Can lightning strike twice in the same place again within 4 days??? Nope... :( Bet 131. English Championship - Burnley FC v Queens Park Rangers @ 4.20 AW Bet 132. English Championship - Ipswich Town v Leicester City @ 3.65 HW Bet 133. Scottish Premier - Celtic Glasgow v Falkirk FC @ 7.80 HW Loss 30 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 272.05 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 Re: Draw! Just one for tonight... Bet 134. English Conference - Farsley Celtic v Torquay United @ 4.20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Re: Draw! hi, just a thought , do you happen to know the half time full time results of your successful draw bet as i was wondering if i could use some of them in the same way as aliando does with his ht/ft super yankee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Re: Draw! hi' date=' just a thought , do you happen to know the half time full time results of your successful draw bet as i was wondering if i could use some of them in the same way as aliando does with his ht/ft super yankee?[/quote'] No, only the 0-0's :lol Seriously though davy, I was thinking of doing 0-0 and 1-1 correct scores on Betfair with this one, and when I get some time I intend to trawl back through the bets for those stats. I haven't been noting the ht/ft results but there's only been around 40 draws since the beginning of the thread up to now so it shouldn't take you too long on somewhere like http://www.betexplorer.com/ to compile any ht/ft stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 Re: Draw! Result from last bet... Bet 134. English Conference - Farsley Celtic v Torquay United @ 4.20 AW Loss 10 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 262.05 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 Re: Draw! Four bets for tonight... Bet 135. Austrian T-Mobile - SV Mattersburg v FK Austria Wien @ 3.30 Bet 136. Dutch Jupiler - Cambuur Leeuwarden v Stormvogels Telstar @ 3.55 Bet 137. Dutch Jupiler - FC Volendam v Helmond Sport @ 4.20 Bet 138. Belgian Jupiler - KAA Gent v SV Zulte Waregem @ 4.10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 Re: Draw! Make that five... Bet 139. Dutch Eredivisie - Roda JC Kerkrade v Sparta Rotterdam @ 5.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Draw! Last Nights results... Bet 135. Austrian T-Mobile - SV Mattersburg v FK Austria Wien @ 3.30 DRAW Bet 136. Dutch Jupiler - Cambuur Leeuwarden v Stormvogels Telstar @ 3.55 AW Bet 137. Dutch Jupiler - FC Volendam v Helmond Sport @ 4.20 HW Bet 138. Belgian Jupiler - KAA Gent v SV Zulte Waregem @ 4.10 HW Bet 139. Dutch Eredivisie - Roda JC Kerkrade v Sparta Rotterdam @ 5.60 AW Loss 18.15 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 243.90 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Draw! First 3 for today... Bet 140. English Championship - West Bromwich Albion v Charlton Athletic @ 3.50 Bet 141. German Bundesliga 1 - Hertha BSC Berlin v Bayern München @ 4.00 Bet 142. German Bundesliga 1 - Werder Bremen v Bayer Leverkusen @ 3.55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Draw! More bets... Bet 143. English Championship - Burnley FC v Preston North End @ 3.45 Bet 144. English Championship - Ipswich Town v Scunthorpe United @ 4.30 Bet 145. English Div 1 - Nottingham Forest v Northampton Town @ 4.80 Bet 146. Italian Serie B - Frosinone Calcio v Vicenza Calcio @ 3.05 Bet 147. Italian Serie B - Spezia Calcio v FC Messina @ 3.10 Bet 148. Italian Serie B - Bologna FC v US Grosseto @ 4.40 Bet 149. Scottish Premier - Glasgow Rangers v Heart of Midlothian @ 5.40 Bet 150. Scottish Div 1 - Partick Thistle Glasgow v Dunfermline Athletic @ 3.55 Bet 151. Scottish Div 2 - Ross County FC Dingwall v Berwick Rangers @ 5.70 Bet 152. Scottish Div 3 - East Fife FC v Dumbarton FC @ 7.00 Bet 153. Scottish Div 3 - Montrose FC v Forfar Athletic @ 4.90 Bet 154. Scottish Div 3 - Stranraer FC v Stenhousemuir FC @ 4.30 Bet 155. French Ligue 1 - Olympique Lyon v OGC Nice @ 4.90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Draw! More bets... Bet 156. Austrian T-Mobile - SV Ried v FC Wacker Innsbruck @ 3.25 Bet 157. Austrian T-Mobile - SK Sturm Graz v RB Salzburg @ 3.40 Bet 158. English Championship - Colchester United v Norwich City @ 3.65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Draw! Todays final bets... Bet 159. Spanish Segunda Division - Cordoba CF v Albacete Balompie @ 3.40 Bet 161. Dutch Eredivisie - FC Twente Enschede v VVV Venlo @ 5.80 Bet 162. Belgian Jupiler - FCV Dender EH v Standard de Liège @ 4.20 Bet 163. Belgian Jupiler - FC Molenbeek Brussels v Cercle Brugge @ 3.65 Bet 164. French Ligue 1 - Le Mans UC 72 v FC Lorient @ 3.35 Bet 165. Dutch Eredivisie - Graafschap Doetinchem v NEC Nijmegen @ 3.40 Bet 166. Spanish Primera - Espanyol Barcelona v UD Levante Valencia @ 4.60 Bet 167. Portuguese Superliga - OS Belenenses Lisbon v Benfica Lisbon @ 3.65 Bet 168. Portuguese Superliga - FC Porto v Vitoria Guimaraes @ 4.80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Re: Draw! Quite simply, this baby really got into the groove today, including an amazing run of 7 draws on the bounce. :eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek Bet 140. English Championship - West Bromwich Albion v Charlton Athletic @ 3.50 HW Bet 141. German Bundesliga 1 - Hertha BSC Berlin v Bayern München @ 4.00 DRAW Bet 142. German Bundesliga 1 - Werder Bremen v Bayer Leverkusen @ 3.55 HW Bet 143. English Championship - Burnley FC v Preston North End @ 3.45 AW Bet 144. English Championship - Ipswich Town v Scunthorpe United @ 4.30 HW Bet 145. English Div 1 - Nottingham Forest v Northampton Town @ 4.80 DRAW Bet 146. Italian Serie B - Frosinone Calcio v Vicenza Calcio @ 3.05 DRAW Bet 147. Italian Serie B - Spezia Calcio v FC Messina @ 3.10 HW Bet 148. Italian Serie B - Bologna FC v US Grosseto @ 4.40 HW Bet 149. Scottish Premier - Glasgow Rangers v Heart of Midlothian @ 5.40 HW Bet 150. Scottish Div 1 - Partick Thistle Glasgow v Dunfermline Athletic @ 3.55 DRAW Bet 151. Scottish Div 2 - Ross County FC Dingwall v Berwick Rangers @ 5.70 HW Bet 152. Scottish Div 3 - East Fife FC v Dumbarton FC @ 7.00 HW Bet 153. Scottish Div 3 - Montrose FC v Forfar Athletic @ 4.90 AW Bet 154. Scottish Div 3 - Stranraer FC v Stenhousemuir FC @ 4.30 AW Bet 155. French Ligue 1 - Olympique Lyon v OGC Nice @ 4.90 DRAW Bet 156. Austrian T-Mobile - SV Ried v FC Wacker Innsbruck @ 3.25 DRAW Bet 157. Austrian T-Mobile - SK Sturm Graz v RB Salzburg @ 3.40 DRAW Bet 158. English Championship - Colchester United v Norwich City @ 3.65 DRAW Bet 159. Spanish Segunda Division - Cordoba CF v Albacete Balompie @ 3.40 DRAW Bet 160. Dutch Eredivisie - FC Twente Enschede v VVV Venlo @ 5.80 DRAW Bet 161. Belgian Jupiler - FCV Dender EH v Standard de Liège @ 4.20 DRAW Bet 162. Belgian Jupiler - FC Molenbeek Brussels v Cercle Brugge @ 3.65 AW Bet 163. French Ligue 1 - Le Mans UC 72 v FC Lorient @ 3.35 DRAW Bet 164. Dutch Eredivisie - Graafschap Doetinchem v NEC Nijmegen @ 3.40 HW Bet 165. Spanish Primera - Espanyol Barcelona v UD Levante Valencia @ 4.60 HW In real terms with 2 results still to come... Profit 195.83 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 439.73 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Draw! Bet 164. Dutch Eredivisie - Graafschap Doetinchem v NEC Nijmegen @ 3.40 DRAW Bet 166. Portuguese Superliga - OS Belenenses Lisbon v Benfica Lisbon @ 3.65 HW Bet 167. Portuguese Superliga - FC Porto v Vitoria Guimaraes @ 4.80 HW Bet 164 was in fact a draw (last minute equaliser) so updated figures from yesterday are... Profit 208.63 pts Start Bank 200 pts Current Bank 452.53 pts Target for this thread is to get this system up to 1,000 pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Re: Draw! Todays first bet... Bet 168. Dutch Jupiler - FC Zwolle v ADO den Haag @ 3.85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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