Classy Plays - Great Bluffs

[GaF]

Are you particularly proud of the way you played a hand? Is it a text book example to others of how to make a Great Bluff? Then post the hand history and thoughts and let us see :ok We dont care about results - whether you win or lose the hand is of no significance, whether you make money/chips or lose, makes no difference to the strength of your play - we dont want your bad beats here ;) Note: By posting your hand here you are inviting feedback, analysis and comment from others How do you distinguish your great bluff from a numptie just shoving and praying? You maybe need more than one hand to be posted, with your comments/thoughts - to show the history that led you to make the decision, that made it more than a shove and pray.....

[ubermonkey1]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs okay mines in this months pp from washys hilly home game but i thought i would run through my side of the hand:ok. first off my table image was at the time was tight aggressive i hadn't played many hands ,those that i had didnt reach showdown.also bar 3 players i had played all the rest quite a bit and have a fairly tight image(i think) my stack was about 3k blinds were 100/200 as i was utg+1 i knew a raise would almost certainly be taken as a strong hand so a steal would work unless somebody had a good hand . if i was reraised i had enough to fold and still be ok .also i new i would be acting first post flop so if i got a caller and the flop looked unfavourable for the opponent i could probably take it down with a bet. and i wanted to win the ipod ;)i guessed a 72 would do the trick so i bet 600 as i turns out i did get a caller,washy took a little while to decide to call.this helped me a little as i put him on a j ,a 10,k j territory or maybe mid pp.dunno if i was right about that but i dont think i am to far off. anyway with the flop coming q 3 3 i quickly pushed all in.i was pretty sure he didnt have any of that flop and i know he cant call unless he has at least kq ,and i reckon he would have called a little quicker pre flop with that so i took the risk. luckily the bluff got through and if hilly called it ballsy i reckon it's gotta go in the classy plays section:nana.

[Jaded]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Muppet, moi? Check this out for an awesome small bet bluff, having previously built up a fairly tight image. Game #6520429554: £3.5K Super series (ID5964037) £15+£2 - Hold'em NL (15/30) - 2007/12/03 - 19:52:13 (UK) Table "5964037 - 4" Seat 1 is the button. Seat 1: Jomkywin (575 in chips) Seat 2: Fishycake (2575 in chips) Seat 3: Stapes34 (4585 in chips) Seat 4: Thinman (3245 in chips) Seat 5: Majella (2440 in chips) Seat 6: Jadedj (1695 in chips) Seat 7: Rish001 (1335 in chips) Seat 8: Rach15066 (2525 in chips) Seat 9: Jami04072 (3910 in chips) Seat 10: Duffy24 (2105 in chips) Fishycake: posts small blind 15 Stapes34: posts big blind 30 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Jadedj [Ah 6h] Thinman: folds Majella: folds Jadedj: raises to 90 Rish001: folds Rach15066: folds Jami04072: calls 90 Duffy24: folds Jomkywin: calls 90 Fishycake: calls 75 Stapes34: folds ----- FLOP ----- [Ks 3s Jh] Fishycake: checks Jadedj: bets 270 Jami04072: calls 270 Jomkywin: folds Fishycake: folds ----- TURN ----- [Ks 3s Jh][9d] Jadedj: checks Jami04072: checks ----- RIVER ----- [Ks 3s Jh 9d][Kh] Jadedj: bets 270

[slapdash]

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having previously built up a fairly tight image.

That's the bluff that impresses me.

[robilaruk]

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That's the bluff that impresses me.

y'see its all a matter of interpretation - in JJ's mind a 'fairly tight image' means him folding two hands in a row, and one of them being his BB, when he ticked the 'fold' checkbox in error....... ;) Damo

[robilaruk]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs JJ I like the play - you make the cont bet with your 'obvious' striaght draw, check the turn when you hit your straight hoping to CR a 'bluff' and then lead with the same 'flop bet amount' on the river as he 'obvously' read you for the straight and decided to not bluff the turn. Nice one :ok Dmao

[Jaded]

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JJ I like the play - you make the cont bet with your 'obvious' striaght draw, check the turn when you hit your straight hoping to CR a 'bluff' and then lead with the same 'flop bet amount' on the river as he 'obvously' read you for the straight and decided to not bluff the turn. Nice one :ok Dmao

You read my mind pretty much perfectly there mate. :ok Odds on first person to post hysterical laughter: GaF 3-1 Nade 4-1 Mr V 9-2 Slappy 10-1 The Field evens

[gavham]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Ok dug this one out last night. ***** Hand 853732797 ***** 25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 05 December 2007 01:15:30 Table TH 232 (Real /Cash Game ) Seat 1: Mr.chill. (6416.00) Seat 2: the_mole (6405.50) Seat 3: MANOUEL (3994.00) Seat 4: Celakovika (5047.00) Seat 5: smörrebröd (5000.00) Celakovika post SB 25.00 smörrebröd post BB 50.00 ** Deal ** Mr.chill. [N/A, N/A] the_mole [4h, 5h] MANOUEL [N/A, N/A] Celakovika [N/A, N/A] smörrebröd [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** Mr.chill. Fold the_mole Raise to 150.00 MANOUEL Fold Celakovika Fold smörrebröd Call 150.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [Kh, 7h, 8c] *** Bet Round 2 *** smörrebröd Bet 240.00 the_mole Call 240.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [Kh, 7h, 8c, 4s] *** Bet Round 3 *** smörrebröd Bet 600.00 the_mole Call 600.00 *** River(Board): *** : [Kh, 7h, 8c, 4s, Jd] *** Bet Round 4 *** smörrebröd Bet 1500.00 the_mole Raise to 3600.00 smörrebröd Fold *** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 5002.00 Mr.chill. Fold Win: 0.00 the_mole By default Win: 5002.00 MANOUEL Fold Win: 0.00 Celakovika Fold Win: 0.00 smörrebröd Fold Win: 0.00

[gavham]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs found another must have been in cheeky monkey mode ***** Hand 853699801 ***** 25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 05 December 2007 00:36:54 Table TH 538 (Real /Cash Game ) Seat 1: giannako (3450.00) Seat 2: Celakovika (7194.00) Seat 3: afkagain (6714.00) Seat 4: the_mole (5366.00) Seat 5: FrankDux1 (5519.00) afkagain post SB 25.00 the_mole post BB 50.00 ** Deal ** giannako [N/A, N/A] Celakovika [N/A, N/A] afkagain [N/A, N/A] the_mole [Qh, Ks] FrankDux1 [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** FrankDux1 Fold giannako Fold Celakovika Raise to 200.00 afkagain Fold the_mole Call 200.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [7d, 2c, Js] *** Bet Round 2 *** the_mole Check Celakovika Bet 300.00 the_mole Call 300.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [7d, 2c, Js, 6h] *** Bet Round 3 *** the_mole Check Celakovika Bet 750.00 the_mole Raise to 1650.00 Celakovika Fold *** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 2522.00 giannako Fold Win: 0.00 Celakovika Fold Win: 0.00 afkagain Fold Win: 0.00 the_mole By default Win: 2522.00 FrankDux1 Fold Win: 0.00

[Jaded]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs $11 Double Shootout for the Sunday Warm-Up on Stars, started with 7 on my table, have been fairly tight (honestly!) pulling off one earlier bluff with Ks2d and Ad 3d Qs 4d board (I showed, obviously) BB has had his blind stolen the last four or five times and appears disinterested in defending it, so I raise... PokerStars Game #17192624863: Tournament #86190140, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2008/05/04 - 09:00:36 (ET) Table '86190140 7' 10-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: JadedJ (3790 in chips) Seat 3: byzy (2850 in chips) Seat 9: shibuii (2000 in chips) Seat 10: MrBeenie (1860 in chips) byzy: posts small blind 50 shibuii: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to JadedJ [4h 4c] MrBeenie: folds JadedJ: raises 200 to 300 byzy: folds shibuii: calls 200 *** FLOP *** [Tc Jd Jh] shibuii: checks JadedJ: bets 400 shibuii: calls 400 *** TURN *** [Tc Jd Jh] [Th] shibuii: checks JadedJ: bets 700 Thinking here was if he called he'd been down to less than half of his chips, so he's presumably having to fold or come over the top. I figured he needed a J or a T to push.

[GaF]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Cant explain why, but I just didn't believe him and pushed him off at the end with a minimum reraise........ ***** Hand 1120665312 ***** 0.25/0.50 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - Friday, June 13, 2008 6:50:34 PM Table TH 140 (Real /Cash Game ) Seat 1: FISHYONE (48.25) Seat 3: PLTelepee (55.75) Seat 4: Damphousse (142.29) Seat 5: BusterVD (58.60) BusterVD post SB 0.25 FISHYONE post BB 0.50 ** Deal ** FISHYONE [N/A, N/A] PLTelepee [Qs, Jh] Damphousse [N/A, N/A] BusterVD [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** PLTelepee Raise to 1.75 Damphousse Fold BusterVD Fold FISHYONE Call 1.75 *** Flop(Board): *** : [7c, Kh, 5c] *** Bet Round 2 *** FISHYONE Check PLTelepee Bet 2.81 FISHYONE Call 2.81 *** Turn(Board): *** : [7c, Kh, 5c, 9d] *** Bet Round 3 *** FISHYONE Check PLTelepee Bet 7.02 FISHYONE Call 7.02 *** River(Board): *** : [7c, Kh, 5c, 9d, 2h] *** Bet Round 4 *** FISHYONE Bet 10.00 PLTelepee Raise to 20.00 FISHYONE Fold *** Showdown *** : Rake: 2.15 Total Pot: 41.26 FISHYONE Fold Win: 0.00 PLTelepee By default Win: 41.26 Damphousse Fold Win: 0.00 BusterVD Fold Win: 0.00

[robsterling]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs This was a pretty fun one... I like to abuse people who auto raise button limps, because they play the hand too aggressive out of position. There is no way this guy has a Q here, so I played it so that it repped a transparently played Q. His min-reraise is what I read as an attempt to "click it back" as they call it on 2+2, which is where you min raise the person who min raised you. If it worked maybe he would post it on 2+2, but as it didn't I'll post it here! :D Seat 1: Me (1430 in chips) Seat 2: Him (1570 in chips) Me: posts small blind 15 Him: posts big blind 30 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Me [Jd Th] Me: calls 15 Him: raises 60 to 90 Me: calls 60 *** FLOP *** [Qs 2s Qh] Him: bets 90 Me: calls 90 *** TURN *** [Qs 2s Qh] [3h] Him: bets 210 Me: raises 210 to 420 Him: raises 210 to 630 Me: raises 620 to 1250 and is all-in Him: folds Uncalled bet (620) returned to Me Me collected 1620 from pot Me: shows [Jd Th] (a pair of Queens)

[GaF]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Enjoyed this one:ok From his betting I was pretty sure he had a missed flush draw. I called each microbet throughout with the intention of bluffing the river if no heart came. Short stack had less than 600 chips left with a stack to win of about 2600 - hge was only folding if my read was right.... ** Hand # 2059988310 starting - 2008-06-18 22:32:39 ** €UROQUAL 8[1806290]:Table 4 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (100.00|200.00 NL - MTT) Real Money Snowsmile sitting in seat 2 with 2905.00 owies80 sitting in seat 3 with 1230.00 TerryP sitting in seat 4 with 1820.00 Telepe sitting in seat 5 with 3175.00[Dealer] rami3304 sitting in seat 6 with 2695.00 smokey44 sitting in seat 7 with 1945.00 Huggy04 sitting in seat 8 with 7185.00 rami3304 posted the small blind - 50.00 smokey44 posted the big blind - 100.00 ** Dealing cards to Telepe: Ac, Js Huggy04 folded Snowsmile folded owies80 folded TerryP folded Telepe raised to 400.00 rami3304 folded smokey44 called - 400.00 ** Dealing the flop: 5h, 6h, 4c smokey44 bet - 200.00 Telepe called - 200.00 ** Dealing the turn: 9d smokey44 bet - 400.00 Telepe called - 400.00 ** Dealing the river: 5c smokey44 bet - 400.00 Telepe raised to 1625.00 smokey44 folded Telepe mucks: Telepe wins 4075.00 from the main pot I'm actually just reevaluating a bit now I'm looking at it - was it a good bluff? Lets assume my read was right (which was the only way he was laying it down) - I was probably ahead at showdown - the only hands he could have had that he would lay down that I was losing to were AhKh and AhQh? He probably didn't have them as he didn't reraise pre flop :unsure I cant see him calling with any hands I was beating, and it was unlikely he'd fold any hands that were beating me (he couldn't lay down bottom pair with those odds could he) - so it was a bluff where I had nothing to gain :unsure I should have trusted my read and taken a showdown that I was probably winning.

[Nade]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) MP ($107.20) CO ($150) Hero ($100) SB ($172.80) BB ($136.95) UTG ($103.20) Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q. 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50. Flop: ($7.50) J, 6, 5 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets $7.5, BB calls $7.50. Turn: ($22.50) K (2 players) BB checks, Hero checks. River: ($22.50) K (2 players) BB bets $25, Hero raises to $89 (All-In), BB folds. Final Pot: $72.50 Hero has Ad Qs (one pair, kings). Outcome: Hero wins $136.50. So so rarely move in with total air, particularly on the river but the situation called for it as there's no hands he repped on the river he can call with. Pot bet on that river after both checked on turn it's so obv. he couldn't call. If he had a K or J he'd have value-towned on the river instead of a huge bet after i showed weakness on the turn so i was in little doubt he definitely couldn't call me.

[billy the punter]

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em' date=' $1 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) MP ($107.20) CO ($150) Hero ($100) SB ($172.80) BB ($136.95) UTG ($103.20) Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q. 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50. Flop: ($7.50) J, 6, 5 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets $7.5, BB calls $7.50. Turn: ($22.50) K (2 players) BB checks, Hero checks. River: ($22.50) K (2 players) BB bets $25, Hero raises to $89 (All-In), BB folds. Final Pot: $72.50 Hero has Ad Qs (one pair, kings). Outcome: Hero wins $136.50. So so rarely move in with total air, particularly on the river but the situation called for it as there's no hands he repped on the river he can call with. Pot bet on that river after both checked on turn it's so obv. he couldn't call. If he had a K or J he'd have value-towned on the river instead of a huge bet after i showed weakness on the turn so i was in little doubt he definitely couldn't call me.

If you're folding here you should give up poker. I'm calling or raising here dependent on what I've seen already. Looks like he was drawing but the raise is safer in case he was in the with Ac5c for example. This is a bread and butter move in my opinion.

[Nade]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs I knew when i posted at least 1 person was going to have some comment along those lines. Here's me pre-planned response: :lol:lol:lol:lol

[billy the punter]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Laugh all you want, the fact still remains. You should be making those moves in your sleep. Up a level you may not get believed and may get a caller with two small pair. After all, you checked the king on the turn didn't you? As we all know, bluffs tell a story, if you're representing trip K's on the river, then why didn't you bet the K on the turn? If you were playing AK or something? There is nothing wrong with the way you played it, in this game -and like I say it's a move that should come naturally.

[Nade]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs I'm just interested by the fact you comment on this hand, whereas there are tonnes of other hands posted throughout the forum that are a lot more 'standard' than mine. Maybe you think a youth will respect you more, well you're wrong, i don't respect you either. To paraphrase a well known idiot on the forum "I don't need the advice."

[whycantistayawayfromdogs]

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Up a level you may not get believed and may get a caller with two small pair.

what two small pair are we talking about here?

[billy the punter]

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I'm just interested by the fact you comment on this hand, whereas there are tonnes of other hands posted throughout the forum that are a lot more 'standard' than mine. Maybe you think a youth will respect you more, well you're wrong, i don't respect you either. To paraphrase a well known idiot on the forum "I don't need the advice."

What on Earth are you talking about? This a new post. I've been commented on most new posts you moron (this, "one for omaha players" and "can a reraise ever be...").

[billy the punter]

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what two small pair are we talking about here?

You may get a call from a pocket pair. Against better players it would be a tough sell as he checked the king originally.

[billy the punter]

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I'm just interested by the fact you comment on this hand, whereas there are tonnes of other hands posted throughout the forum that are a lot more 'standard' than mine. Maybe you think a youth will respect you more, well you're wrong, i don't respect you either. To paraphrase a well known idiot on the forum "I don't need the advice."

It says in the original post that if you post your plays you have to expect responses. What is so bad about this response to your hand:

Laugh all you want, the fact still remains. You should be making those moves in your sleep. Up a level you may not get believed and may get a caller with two small pair. After all, you checked the king on the turn didn't you? As we all know, bluffs tell a story, if you're representing trip K's on the river, then why didn't you bet the K on the turn? If you were playing AK or something? There is nothing wrong with the way you played it, in this game -and like I say it's a move that should come naturally.

I was just picking up on a few things - and I made a very good point.

[GaF]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Another one I particularly enjoyed :dude Had no intention of bluffing it until that ridiculous bet from him at the end and it just gave me total confidence he had nothing.... Wouldnt surprise me if he had AK too. Game #8063183634: St Thomas (ID8266521) £20+£2 - Hold'em NL (15/30) - 2008/10/17 - 19:49:20 (UK) Table "8266521 - 5" Seat 8 is the button. Seat 1: Monsta007 (3735 in chips) Seat 2: Bigbust (2370 in chips) Seat 3: Elain1112 (3425 in chips) Seat 4: Andyb123 (2035 in chips) Seat 5: Snakey002 (2750 in chips) Seat 6: Spendit (2295 in chips) Seat 7: Telepee (3385 in chips) Seat 8: Add237 (4190 in chips) Seat 9: Fenners (905 in chips) Seat 10: Bri180812 (2300 in chips) Fenners: posts small blind 15 Bri180812: posts big blind 30 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Telepee [Ks Ac] Monsta007: folds Bigbust: folds Elain1112: folds Andyb123: folds Snakey002: folds Spendit: raises to 120 Telepee: raises to 440 Add237: folds Fenners: folds Bri180812: folds Spendit: calls 320 ----- FLOP ----- [Th Td Js] Spendit: checks Telepee: bets 600 Spendit: calls 600 ----- TURN ----- [Th Td Js][6d] Spendit: checks Telepee: checks ----- RIVER ----- [Th Td Js 6d][4d] Spendit: bets 450 Telepee: raises to 1500 Spendit: folds Returned uncalled bets 1,050 to Telepee Telepee: doesn't show hand Telepee collected 3025 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot 3025 Main pot 3025 Rake 0 Board [Th Td Js 6d 4d] Seat 1: Monsta007 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Bigbust folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Elain1112 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Andyb123 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Snakey002 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Spendit folded on the River Seat 7: Telepee collected 3025 Seat 8: Add237 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Fenners (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: Bri180812 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[GaF]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs And fenners - stop bullying me please :tongue2

[Punto Banco]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Only reason this is not classy would be because these two are the biggest dopes I have seen.... ***** Hand 1300787050 ***** 15.00/30.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Saturday, 1 November 2008 10:07:29 AM Holdem Speed (Real/Tournament) Seat 1: RayPenber (1455.00) Seat 2: JINKING1 (1515.00) Seat 3: jccgomes (1290.00) Seat 4: sandker (3240.00) Seat 5: Unknown (0.00) JINKING1 post SB 15.00 jccgomes post BB 30.00 ** Deal ** RayPenber [3h, 5h] JINKING1 [N/A, N/A] jccgomes [N/A, N/A] sandker [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** sandker Call 30.00 RayPenber Call 30.00 JINKING1 Call 30.00 jccgomes Check *** Flop(Board): *** : [6h, 4s, Ks] *** Bet Round 2 *** JINKING1 Bet 120.00 jccgomes Fold sandker Call 120.00 RayPenber Call 120.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [6h, 4s, Ks, Qh] *** Bet Round 3 *** JINKING1 Bet 120.00 sandker Call 120.00 RayPenber Call 120.00 *** River(Board): *** : [6h, 4s, Ks, Qh, Qc] *** Bet Round 4 *** JINKING1 Bet 120.00 sandker Fold RayPenber Raise to 500.00 JINKING1 Fold *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 1080.00 RayPenber By default Win: 1080.00 JINKING1 Fold Win: 0.00 jccgomes Fold Win: 0.00 sandker Fold Win: 0.00

[Samba_SamPa]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Don't know whether this was 'great'. Probably just standard. I'll let your comments guide me. My thoughts during the hand: Pre-flop: Easy check. Doubt he has a 'big hand', but don't want to shove here as happy to see a flop with position. Post-flop: Nice low rainbow flop, sure he hasn't hit it, checking again to see what turn brings and take it from there. Post-turn: Can't see him completing the blinds with a 3 as one of his cards, so still confident he has nothing. The 3 also makes my mind up I am going to check to bluff this on the river. I could have any two cards, and a 3 is definitely a possible :lol Post-river: Weak weak weak. he may as well have typed in the chat box "I have nothing"..... imo :unsure anyway.

***** Hand 1325315717 ***** 400.00/800.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 17 November 2008 21:56:43 Poker League (Real /Tournament ) Seat 1: 960martin (15841.00) Seat 2: Jale27 (4325.00) Seat 5: Stefan41 (15411.00) Seat 9: plSamba (6123.00) Stefan41 post SB 400.00 plSamba post BB 800.00 ** Deal ** 960martin [N/A, N/A] Jale27 [N/A, N/A] Stefan41 [N/A, N/A] plSamba [:Ks:, :6c:] *** Bet Round 1 *** 960martin Fold Jale27 Fold Stefan41 Call 800.00 plSamba Check *** Flop(Board): *** : [:3s:, :Td:, :4c:] *** Bet Round 2 *** Stefan41 Check plSamba Check *** Turn(Board): *** : [:3s:, :Td:, :4c:, :3d:] *** Bet Round 3 *** Stefan41 Bet 800.00 plSamba Call 800.00 *** River(Board): *** : [:3s:, :Td:, :4c:, :3d:, :Jh:] *** Bet Round 4 *** Stefan41 Bet 800.00 plSamba All-in 4523.00 Stefan41 Fold *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 5100.00 960martin Fold Win: 0.00 Jale27 Fold Win: 0.00 Stefan41 Fold Win: 0.00 plSamba By default Win: 5100.00

Right, ready to be ripped to shreds :dude

[billy the punter]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Nah nothing wrong with that mate. The average player wouldn't come out and bet the 3 if he had it, so it gives you the chance to represent it - especially as you're in the blinds. I would probably raise the turn there, but the result would be the same. Nothing wrong with the theory but just two small points, you did put all the chips at risk in an unraised pot which can leave you thinking "why o why" if you get busted. Also I think a raise to 2k or 2.5k isn't a bad move after the river, that way, if you're wrong in your read at least you have something to play with after. Your reads were right and when they are it's always a decent bluff at least. :ok

[Samba_SamPa]

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...Nothing wrong with the theory but just two small points' date=' you did put all the chips at risk in an unraised pot which can leave you thinking "why o why" if you get busted. Also I think a raise to 2k or 2.5k isn't a bad move after the river, that way, if you're wrong in your read at least you have something to play with after...[/quote'] Good point. I can explain why I shoved them all in, but on reflection I would say you're dead right. As he had me comfortably covered, I didn't want to give him the chance of thinking I was bluffing and calling with ace-rag. I wanted him to know that if he was going to call me with his nothing he was going to double me up to a stack bigger than his. (This is maybe tournament specific tbh - the German players (not you Star ;)) in this league, as Riv, Strider, McG will back me up, do like their Aces, ANY Ace! You often see calls made with A6, A7, A8 etc, and think to yourself "how the fk can you call with that). Ok, now I think this :lol. Your comments were very valid, and noted, and I will do well to remember them when playing a better standard of player. But in THIS league on THIS occasion I (may have) played it right.

[billy the punter]

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Good point. I can explain why I shoved them all in, but on reflection I would say you're dead right. As he had me comfortably covered, I didn't want to give him the chance of thinking I was bluffing and calling with ace-rag. I wanted him to know that if he was going to call me with his nothing he was going to double me up to a stack bigger than his. (This is maybe tournament specific tbh - the German players (not you Star ;)) in this league, as Riv, Strider, McG will back me up, do like their Aces, ANY Ace! You often see calls made with A6, A7, A8 etc, and think to yourself "how the fk can you call with that). Ok, now I think this :lol. Your comments were very valid, and noted, and I will do well to remember them when playing a better standard of player. But in THIS league on THIS occasion I (may have) played it right.

Ah I understand. Makes sense. Also the all-in may make him pass a tens up too. Wheres if he is weak he may call a raise of 1200 for example.

[george2loose]

Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em' date=' $1 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) MP ($107.20) CO ($150) Hero ($100) SB ($172.80) BB ($136.95) UTG ($103.20) Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q. 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50. Flop: ($7.50) J, 6, 5(2 players) BB checks, Hero bets $7.5, BB calls $7.50. Turn: ($22.50) K(2 players) BB checks, Hero checks. River: ($22.50) K(2 players) BB bets $25, Hero raises to $89 (All-In), BB folds. Final Pot: $72.50 Hero has Ad Qs (one pair, kings). Outcome: Hero wins $136.50. So so rarely move in with total air, particularly on the river but the situation called for it as there's no hands he repped on the river he can call with. Pot bet on that river after both checked on turn it's so obv. he couldn't call. If he had a K or J he'd have value-towned on the river instead of a huge bet after i showed weakness on the turn so i was in little doubt he definitely couldn't call me.

Think u were bluffing with the best hand here! Nice shove!