ZuluWarrior Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hi guys, knocked a quick little 2yo system together yesturday, could be profitable but no backtesting has been done yet (Massey indicates 135% ROI since 2000, but Masseys site can't do the entire backtest itself... (Does anyone know where I can get lists of Trainers and the horses they currently (previously) trained?? If I can get this I can back test) Gonna trial it here, please, please bear in mind, NO BACKTESTING HAS BEEN DONE, THIS IS AN UNTESTED PAPER TRAIL. Simple rules for this one: 2 Year Olds in the top 3 in betting at 12pm-1pm Evens to 10/1 to be taken 1st to 6th LTO Upto 40 days LTOAnd (the tricky peice of the system) there is a trainer filter, the list of trainers is kept to myself and is re-appraised every few days... As this is new and untested, and it is possible to select upto 3 selections in a race, I haven't decided what to do with these doubles yet, for now all selections will be backed... Starting bank 100pts, 10pt Level stakes, EW @ or over 6/1, Win under... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good Luck with this Zulu, :hope Will be watching with some intrest in this, :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Just the 1 selection today, and no prizes for guessing that this trainer is in the 2yo list! PAPER TRAIL - BEWARE 06/08/2007 18:30 Windsor - Silca Destination (M Channon) - ep:4/1 - 10pt WIN :hope Good luck all!!! Total (Today) Stake: 10.00pts (10.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (1 Outstanding) Profit: -10.00pts (1 Outstanding) Bank: 90.00pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones12345 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial sounds interesting zulu GL with this mate :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sousa Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good luck Zulu. Will keep and eye in this thread. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingles1985 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good Luck Zulu.:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Thanks for the positives guys! :ok Hope this one works out now! Still, I more than expect this one to fall on its ass, as its the first system I've posted without backtesting the last week. On a positive note, yesterday selected 3 horses in 2 races and returned a 4/1 winner.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aelara Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good luck Zulu. Will be interesting to see the results seeing as the system hasn't been back tested :loon. Does it have a decent strike rate for the eight years of Massey info? Also, is the ROI to SP or betfair prices? Sorry for all the questions but you know what I'm like when it comes to Massey systems :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good luck Zulu. Will be interesting to see the results seeing as the system hasn't been back tested :loon. Does it have a decent strike rate for the eight years of Massey info? Also, is the ROI to SP or betfair prices? Sorry for all the questions but you know what I'm like when it comes to Massey systems :rollin Yea, sorry the figures where at SP (I don't use betfair) Just back run it for 2005 to date and it suggests a strike rate of 29.33% with a Win % @ SP of 126.20% Sorry, can't offer any more info than that (as you know, Massey won't let me filter a list of Trainers)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aelara Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Thanks for that Zulu. Best of luck with the system anyway :ok:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial no luck today, but hey first day jitters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial RESULTS06/08/2007 18:30 Windsor - Silca Destination :eyesLost sp:11/2 -10.00pts Total (Yesturday) Stake: 10.00pts (10.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (0.00pts) Profit: -10.00pts (-10.00pts) Bank: 90.00pts (ROI: -100.00%) Oh well, onwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Well, we'll not be getting the deficit back today... 07/08/2007 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Well, we'll not be getting the deficit back today... 07/08/2007 NO SELECTIONS ARGH! Unbelievable, 2 selections today, both filtered out due to their odds being above 10/1, 1 runner Withdrawn, both selections come into backable prices, 1st and 3rd. Un-freaking-believable! :wall Why are EP's soo badly out all the time?? I swear, its like I can't run a system without watching the markets every minute of every day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Well after yesterdays mishap, I will list all qualifiers and mark the ones that are too highly priced. PAPER TRAIL - BEWARE 08/08/2007 14:20 Newcastle - Tamara Moon (M Channon) - ep:10/1 - 5pt EW 14:30 Brighton - Maiden Miss (M Channon) - ep:3/2 - 10pt WIN MAYBE> 14:50 Newcastle - Red Delight (R Fahey) - ep:12/1 - 5pt EW If odds goto or below 10/1, this is a selection 19:20 Kempton - Harbour Blues (C Brittain) - ep:4/1 - 10pt WIN :hope Good luck all!!! Total (Today) Stake: 40.00pts (30.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (3 Outstanding) Profit: -40.00pts (3 Outstanding) Bank: 60.00pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial RESULTS08/08/2007 14:20 Newcastle - Tamara Moon sp:11/1, did not qualify 14:30 Brighton - Maiden Miss:eyesLost sp:7/2 -10.00pts 14:50 Newcastle - Red Delightsp:20/1, did not qualify 19:20 Kempton - Harbour Blues :eyesLost sp:13/8 -10.00pts Total (Yesturday) Stake: 30.00pts (20.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (0.00pts) Profit: -30.00pts (-20.00pts) Bank: 70.00pts (ROI: -100.00%) Hmmm, not a winner yet, perhaps back to the drawing board.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial PAPER TRAIL - BEWARE 08/08/2007 14:10 Haydock - Monsieur Reynard (B Meehan) - ep:5/2 - 10pt WIN 14:20 Yarmouth - Tadalavil (M Channon) - ep:11/4 - 10pt WIN 18:10 Folkestone - Aaim For Applause (M Channon) - ep:11/8 - 10pt WIN 18:30 Bath - Structura (J Moore) - ep:13/2 - 5pt EW Total (Today) Stake: 80.00pts (40.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (4 Outstanding) Profit: -80.00pts (4 Outstanding) Bank: 20.00pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial RESULTS09/08/2007 14:10 Haydock - Monsieur Reynard :eyesLost sp:3/1 -10.00pts 14:20 Yarmouth - Tadalavil :eyesPlaced sp:11/2 -10.00pts 18:10 Folkestone - Aaim For Applause :eyesPlaced sp:13/8 -10.00pts 18:30 Bath - Structura :eyesLost sp:6/1 -10.00pts Total (Yesterday) Stake: 80.00pts (40.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (0.00pts) Profit: -80.00pts (-40.00pts) Bank: 20.00pts Right, no success today and its back to the drawing board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial PAPER TRAIL - BEWARE 10/08/2007 16:15 Lingfield - Ely Une (J Moore) - ep:5/1 - 10pt WIN 18:15 Newmarket - Ambrose Princess (J Moore) - ep:4/1 - 10pt WIN 18:45 Newmarket - Palm Court (R Charlton) - ep:11/2 - 10pt WIN Total (Today) Stake: 80.00pts (30.00pts) Return: 0.00pts (3 Outstanding) Profit: -110.00pts (3 Outstanding) Bank: -10.00pts Last Chance Saloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good Luck today Mate.:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Zulu's 2 Year Old Trial Good Luck today Mate.:ok Cheers, bruv! LOL, at therate this systems crashed and burned, I'm gonna need it!!! Lessons Learned: ALWAYS paper trail for a few days before posting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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