AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th)

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Friday 10 August 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Richmond v Collingwood (10:40 BST)	6.00		1.12	106%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
Saturday 11 August 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Hawthorn v Brisbane (05:10 BST)	1.69		2.04	109%	Related markets...Match Result
Port Adelaide v Carlton (06:10 BST)	1.11		6.60	106%	Related markets...Match Result
Melbourne v Western Bulldogs (10:10 BST)	3.55		1.22	111%	Related markets...Match Result
Sydney v St Kilda (10:10 BST)	1.36		3.00	107%	Related markets...Match Result
Sunday 12 August 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Kangaroos v West Coast (04:10 BST)	2.16		1.58	110%	Related markets...Match Result
Geelong v Adelaide (05:10 BST)	1.20		3.70	111%	Related markets...Match Result
Fremantle v Essendon (07:40 BST)	1.15		4.20	111%	Related markets...Match Result

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Overall Standings
#	Team	P	W	L	D	For	Agt	%	Pts
1	Geelong	18	15	3	0	2075	1294	160.4	60
2	Kangaroos	18	12	6	0	1672	1589	105.2	48
3	Hawthorn	18	11	7	0	1680	1469	114.4	44
4	Port Adelaide	18	11	7	0	1888	1677	112.6	44
5	West Coast	18	11	7	0	1688	1525	110.7	44
6	Collingwood	18	11	7	0	1658	1636	101.3	44
7	Sydney	18	10	8	0	1669	1400	119.2	40
8	Brisbane	18	9	8	1	1669	1476	113.1	38
9	St Kilda	18	9	8	1	1483	1565	94.76	38
10	W.Bulldogs	18	9	8	1	1791	1925	93.04	38
11	Adelaide	18	9	9	0	1524	1401	108.8	36
12	Essendon	18	9	9	0	1773	1895	93.56	36
13	Fremantle	18	8	10	0	1789	1793	99.78	32
14	Carlton	18	4	14	0	1779	2377	74.84	16
15	Melbourne	18	3	15	0	1467	1998	73.42	12
16	Richmond	18	1	16	1	1545	2130	72.54	6

Match Totals
		Quarters				Halves
#	Team	W	L	D	WR%	W	L	D	WR%
1	Geelong	54	17	1	75	29	6	1	81
2	Kangaroos	41	28	3	57	20	16	0	56
3	Hawthorn	37	34	1	51	20	13	3	56
4	Port Adelaide	39	31	2	54	19	17	0	53
5	West Coast	40	30	2	56	22	12	2	61
6	Collingwood	36	34	2	50	18	16	1	51
7	Sydney	40	30	2	56	25	10	1	69
8	Brisbane	39	32	1	54	18	18	0	50
9	St Kilda	34	35	3	47	16	20	0	44
10	W.Bulldogs	29	40	3	40	13	22	1	36
11	Adelaide	37	34	1	51	18	16	2	50
12	Essendon	33	39	0	46	15	19	2	42
13	Fremantle	33	37	2	46	19	16	1	53
14	Carlton	22	50	0	31	10	26	0	28
15	Melbourne	27	43	2	38	9	27	0	25
16	Richmond	21	48	3	29	9	27	0	25

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Quarter Averages
			For				Against
	Team	¼	½	¾	FT	¼	½	¾	FT
1	Geelong	33	27	26	29	17	18	18	19
2	Kangaroos	26	23	22	23	19	21	18	30
3	Hawthorn	19	23	25	27	20	23	20	18
4	Port Adelaide	28	25	30	22	24	24	20	25
5	West Coast	24	24	22	24	21	19	24	21
6	Collingwood	21	26	22	23	26	22	23	20
7	Sydney	21	22	22	27	23	19	20	16
8	Brisbane	24	21	25	23	21	20	21	21
9	St Kilda	20	23	22	18	25	17	20	24
10	W.Bulldogs	28	22	22	27	33	23	24	27
11	Adelaide	24	21	20	21	19	20	22	17
12	Essendon	24	24	26	25	23	30	28	24
13	Fremantle	25	23	26	26	26	19	29	26
14	Carlton	29	21	28	22	31	32	33	37
15	Melbourne	18	20	20	24	30	28	27	25
16	Richmond	24	20	19	23	29	25	32	32

Scoring Statistics
			Avg Score		Avg Margin		Total Score		Round Total
	Team	For	Agt	Win	Lose	High	Low	High	Low
1	Geelong	115	72	55	13	222	69	4	0
2	Kangaroos	93	88	23	32	147	40	1	2
3	Hawthorn	93	82	37	27	180	31	1	2
4	Port Adelaide	105	93	38	30	163	60	2	0
5	West Coast	94	85	37	35	158	62	0	1
6	Collingwood	92	91	20	28	122	56	2	1
7	Sydney	93	78	38	14	162	44	1	1
8	Brisbane	93	82	50	32	163	35	2	2
9	St Kilda	82	87	24	38	125	43	0	5
10	W.Bulldogs	100	107	23	43	141	57	1	1
11	Adelaide	85	78	29	16	110	57	0	1
12	Essendon	99	105	18	31	127	56	0	0
13	Fremantle	99	100	32	26	173	58	2	0
14	Carlton	99	132	17	48	141	39	3	2
15	Melbourne	82	111	18	39	124	57	0	1
16	Richmond	86	118	49	40	124	65	0	0

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Margin Breakdown - Basic
			U 15.5		O 15.5		U 39.5		O 39.5
	Team	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
1	Geelong	1	1	14	2	5	3	10	0
2	Kangaroos	2	1	10	5	11	4	1	2
3	Hawthorn	2	1	9	6	8	6	3	1
4	Port Adelaide	2	1	9	6	6	6	5	1
5	West Coast	4	1	7	6	7	6	4	1
6	Collingwood	3	3	8	4	11	6	0	1
7	Sydney	1	3	9	5	5	8	5	0
8	Brisbane	1	1	8	7	4	6	5	2
9	St Kilda	2	1	7	7	7	4	2	4
10	W.Bulldogs	1	2	8	6	9	4	0	4
11	Adelaide	2	4	7	5	7	9	2	0
12	Essendon	6	1	3	8	8	7	1	2
13	Fremantle	1	3	7	7	5	8	3	2
14	Carlton	2	2	2	12	4	7	0	7
15	Melbourne	1	4	2	11	3	6	0	9
16	Richmond	0	2	1	14	0	10	1	6

Margin Breakdown - Detailed
			1-19 pts		20-39 pts		40-59 pts		60+ pts
	Team	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
1	Geelong	3	2	2	1	4	0	6	0
2	Kangaroos	5	2	6	2	0	1	1	1
3	Hawthorn	2	4	6	2	1	0	2	1
4	Port Adelaide	5	1	1	5	3	1	2	0
5	West Coast	4	1	3	5	0	0	4	1
6	Collingwood	5	5	6	1	0	0	0	1
7	Sydney	2	7	3	1	3	0	2	0
8	Brisbane	1	1	3	5	3	1	2	1
9	St Kilda	4	1	3	3	2	3	0	1
10	W.Bulldogs	2	2	7	2	0	2	0	2
11	Adelaide	4	5	3	4	1	0	1	0
12	Essendon	6	2	2	5	0	1	1	1
13	Fremantle	2	4	3	4	2	1	1	1
14	Carlton	3	4	1	3	0	1	0	6
15	Melbourne	2	4	1	2	0	6	0	3
16	Richmond	0	5	0	5	1	3	0	3

[DeMMa]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Waiting for odds on Collingwood Over 39.5 Points..

[Ashtee]

[DeMMa]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Whats the % on the right mean?

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Very important aspect of punting. It indicates the market overround (or in other words the margin the bookmakers are trying to steal from us). For example, if you rate a game even money then you are saying both teams are a 50% probability. In the example, Sydney v St.Kilda, Sydney's price of 1.43 equals 69.9% and St.Kilda at 3.04 equals 32.9%, totals 102.8%. Usually the market can be considered ripe to bet on once it gets to within 102.0% IMO. The trick is if you're looking at St.Kilda for example (as I am ;)), it could be necessary to make a judgment whether the price will hold up in time for the market percent to tighten.

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) BTW, I believe that's TazaD, getting all exited about Johno's doggies (or is it just a case of beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder) - he thought they were wearing the away strip. :eyes

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Funnily enough, I do indeed have their away strip!...and will be wearing it, quite possibly in that very seat on Saturday night. (Of course I have the real one too, but I think the white looks better...actually, I also have a signed Daniel Cross match day jumper from the Origin Energy game @ Geelong in 2005. I can assure you the certificate of authenticity was not required as soon as that un-washed, 2 hours/15 k's of running sweat stench wafted out of the posteage bag!...but I digress...) But, you can tell that isn't me straight up, as I don't have a beer in both hands. ;) ok...I'm yet to run any numbers, but just at a look, the combination of last week's results, + the current situation of a few clubs just about makes this round the worst 8 match-ups possible!! I mean, Collingwood win, sure, but 1.10...haven't really been playing well enough to take at a big spread. Port were exposed last week for the rabble they really are (can't wait to go against them in the first final!!), but taking the team with the worst D, away against one of the best scoring teams doesn't seem like the best sense...(given a fine day it could be one of the highest scoring games ever!!...but I won't be in a position to check out totals this week anyway, so what do I care!! :D) Freo in a big let-down spot here, but now face Essendon who are absolutely struggling themselves, and Harvey/Solomon have already started to fire up... ...could be the second highest scoring game ever tho! :D:D Right...So, now that I've seen Ash is back down off his [very] high horse, I'll be back in a while with some facts and figures in a bit ;)

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) ok...doing this on the fly, so try not to read it faster than I can type ;) Yeah, Collingwood have dropped right off in their last 5. Gone from av'ing +0 I50's to -5, and defense has gone from 2.03 to 1.95. Richmond habe dropped away too (if that's possible!) Scoring gone from 2.03 to 2.25, and they are allowing 3 more I50's per game. Now, having said that, they have played the top 4 teams plus Sydney in that stretch!! Tough run! The concern I guess, is that Collingwood are comparable to Hawthorn in both numbers and style, and the Hawks beat Richmond by 53 with 21 more I50's. Collingwood only won by 25 in the first meeting...and Collingwood have not won a game all year by more than 33 points! Couldn't possibly take the Pies...thinking seriously about the Tiges @ +high 30's. Brisbane's last 5 games, they've allowed 43 I50's, a shot every 2.31, for about 57 ppg!!! Amazing. It really has been a remarkable few weeks for the Lions, winning the last 5 by an av. of more than 10 goals. Hawthorn's midfield have been consistantly good this season, but their scoring had dropped off...maybe no coincidence that Franklin and Boyle missed games...but tough to read much into last weeks game v. a terrible Essendon. Even with the Collingwood game, Brisbane av. just 24 shots away from home this season, so there's every chance the Hawks will try to close this game right down. Couldn't pick a winner...although I suspect 2.20 for Brisbane is prety attractive. Looks like a solid under at what I suspect will be a good number. Might have to try to get myself online somewhere at about lunchtime Saturday ;) Could I take Carlton at +40ish? Don't really want to! :D...but it does seem excessive. Obviously they rely on their forwards to win games, and they have been extremely potent lately (incluiding kicking incredibly accurately!)...definately no reason to suggest Carlton will slow them down, but they should be able to score the other way better than Port's recent opp's. (Melbourne, Richmond, Adelaide...even Essendon) I think the spread is skewed for a few reasons...obviously people rate Port...thinking "bounce-back" etc. (neither of which I buy into!)...and also Carlton's 3 recent interstate games...all of which might I add, where under Pagan. Still, the Freo game they actually had +4 I50's...'only' 7 less shots, so the actual result was deceptive. At Sydney they were pumped, but again, only 12 less shots, and at Brisbane they just plain gave up! The Blues actually won the first meeting in Melbourne...again the scoreline is a bit deceiving, but all the numbers were quite close...1 less I50, 1 less shot. Realistically, these are two very similar teams. Should be one almighty shoot-out, and I suspect Carlton can kick a big enough score to keep it close (ish!). Dogs win, but wouldn't want to lay any more than low 20's...esp. if Johnson sits out. Dogs 1-39 could be a pretty logical option. Melbourne been blown away lately but by 4 in form teams....the big loss to Richmond recently sends a bit of doubt tho! Dogs haven't won a game by 40+ all season. I think Sydney win too, but was hoping for a better price. St. Kilda have been very poor in games outside the dome...av just 20 shots a game at just over 66ppg... Would probably have been on Sydney had the game been at the SCG, but the Swans haven't been great at Homebush. The Swans stats have all been padded by playing some pretty bad teams recently too...-16 or so is just too much for me to take. Again, looks an obvious low-scorer, but I'm sure the books will have this one covered. Now, this is the one game I think that has been affected by last weeks results. True to current form, the Eagles defense was again well below average last week (1.90), and a god-awful 1.70 in the last 5 games. Not sure how they get to be 1.50 favs on the road, where they av. -3 I50's per game and av. just 24 shots per game. Forget the game v. a (literally!) half strength Bulldogs...their form is still patchy at best. Kangas ran into a red-hot Brisbane at home last week, but have won their last 5 at the dome, including wins over Sydney and St. Kilda as 'dogs. WC with a strong recent head-to-head record, but these teams have met in Mebourne just ONCE since 2000!! West Coast won that game by 4 points as 1.60 favs. Despite Ash's best efforts of convincing me otherwise, I'll be tempted to take the couple of goals on offer I think...but a 2.50 could convince me to be a little more masculin ;) (or is that a type of lettuce??) Geelong don't interest me @ 1.20. Had some easy games lately, and there were signs last week of some over-confidence late in the game. Adelaide are just the type of tough, hard-bodied team that can match Geelong...having said that I'm not sure how they manage to score against this Cat D allowing a shot just every 2.50 entries in their last 5 (19 shots/game)...given the Crows so often struggle to score as it is. Under 186...but don't like the chances one little bit! Freo @ 1.14...honstly!!...Any week, let alone after playing "their grand final"! Even at home this season, they break even in the middle and av. 1 LESS shot per game than their opp... ...Essendon tho have fallen away big time. -9 I50's in theri last 5, allowing 32 shots per game. Could be tempted by 35ish...but with Lucas in some doubt, and Harvey/Solomon already making it personal, it seems less likely than usual of a let down here. I guess the good news for the Bombers coming off last weeks 7 goal effort is that Freo are 5th worst D in the last 5 (1.77) better only than Carlton, Melbourne, Richmond and the Eagles! +35.5 or more with Lucas or no deal! ok...now I better sit back and read all of that to see if it makes any sense! :D

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) LOL Taza. Six of one, half dozen of the other mostly, but if Eagles win it a kick there's always some expert out there (pub, forums, etc) willing to sternly advise "that's why you take the points!" They need the occasional barb. :D Kangaroos were on their third travel in four matches and on just six days. It was no surprise they lacked any zing. I agree, I'm looking for near 2.50 myself. Saints haven't played at TS as far as I know, but your right Taza, opponents don't seem so disadvantaged there and Saints form on big grounds this year is promising. Eagles win and they should have beaten Collingwood at G, although that was in wet. Ball expected back (not saying he's at his best) so they should field their strongest side for the year. Lot of rave about Swans back to their best but look at who they've been playing;

10 Sydney v Essendon SCG (N) Lost

11 Hawthorn v Sydney MCG (D) Won

12 Sydney v Collingwood Telstra S (N) Lost

13 Geelong v Sydney Skilled (D) Lost

14 Sydney v Fremantle SCG (E) Won

15 Sydney v Carlton SCG (E) Won

16 West Coast v Sydney Subiaco (N) Lost

17 Sydney v Richmond SCG (N) Won

18 Melbourne v Sydney Manuka (E) Won WCE, Geel, Coll, Haw, Ess were the only teams of any quality and just one win from those. Admittedly they had some problems getting Hall, etc fit, but they are overall yet to deserve 1.44 favourtism for Saturday night IMO. Leo Barry still in doubt and Saints aren't really the opponent to be without your regular full back. If you look closely, his eyes are lifted, he's showing the free hand and calling out to the bar across the ground. The lip read is "one more beer thanks!

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) ok, ok...but it's still not me, 'cause the two women to the right of pic would be paying far more attention to me than some guy in the goal square by the looks! :D ...even if they were looking in utter disgust at the language and/or advice to players/crowd I tend to dish out, they'd still be looking! lol! Actually, I do get a bit rough at the footy...but I rarely start it. Pretty calm early, but there's always one or two morons (opposition morons of course! ;)) that need to get put into their place as the game goes on! (Although, good game selection is vital! :lol) You are totally right about the 'dog thing aswell. I think it's been pretty well documented in other (US) sports that taking the 'dog SU will get you a better profit in the end...can't see why it would be different in AFL. (In fact, now I have a quick look back, 5 of the last 6 'dogs I've taken + points have won SU! :$) Right, so you might convince me to grab the 'Roos, but dammit, I ain't touching either Carlton or Richmond to get the 4 points!! I just ain't!! :wall

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Well I'm thinking of Carlton SU but high thirties would tempt me on points. Quite frankly there doesn't look enough of anything to tempt me on the Friday game. I thought we were giving it a rest bagging Collingwood supporters? :unsure Maybe the guy in the goal square has two beers? As a matter of fact they're all looking to the goal square. The guy in the away strip just wants the bar. Actually ... I'm now sure that he needs two chicks and the two chicks need two beers.

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) I'm pretty sure I'd need 2 dozen beers, just by looking at those chicks... Haven't seen or heard from a Collingwood supporter in a while...still reeling from the 'flogging they had to have'?? ok, first bet in...and it's one of those stupid exotics I never do any good at!! Lowest scoring team of the round: Adelaide (7.00) Hawthorn (21.00)...combines to 5.25. Crows first. Av just 24 shots away from home this season, and have been held to 80 or less in 5 of their last 9 over all. Geelong's D...allow just 20 shots both at home, and in their last 5...~70ppg...AND, have allowed more than 72 just ONCE in their last 10!!! (Essendon, indoors) They've held teams to 70 or less in all of their last 5 at home. In their last 2 trips to Geelong, the Crows scored 58 and 57, and just 62 at home in the first meeting this year. Hawthron...well, Brisbane have been the best defensive team in the last 5 games by a long way! Allowing just 19 shots @ ~57 ppg! Besides 3 BIG games by the Hawks v. Carlton, Richmond and Essendon, they haven't had more than 24 shots in their last 10. The last 4 times these teams have met (admittedly all up north) the Hawks have managed 80, 66, 74 and 44 this season. The last 2 games at the MCG have been against crappy Richmond and Essendon...the two scores before that v. St. Kilda and Sydney this season were 72 and 66. And, of course, Brisbane haeld COllingwood to 56 here a couple of weeks back. AND, to top it all off, the forecast for Melbourne on Saturday (and no doubt for Geelong on Sunday) is rain and plenty of wind. Quite rediculous odds really. Can't see why Richmond are favs...Carlton and Melbourne play 2 poor defenses...Decent competitions from the Swans/St. Kilda game, but fine weather forecast there at least.

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Taken Richmond +36.5 and Carlton +39.5. Good luck for the w'end gang.

[BURNTUA CRISP]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) There appears to be plenty of lob-sided games this weekend, but I’ve found it incredibly difficult to find winners with as much surety as previous weeks.

The Pies have to keep knocking over these poor teams to make the top 4. Richmond has been honest for most games, but inevitably, they get blown away in the end. Historically, the Tigers have always been able to beat the Magpies at least once a season in the past 15 years. Brown and Richardson loom as the main dangers to Collingwood who were anything but impressive last week. The running power of the Pies should get them over the line, but the windy conditions won’t make it a pretty game.Troy Simmonds is a late withdrawl for the Tigers, whilst Fraser is in doubt for the Pies.

The Lions have been awesome in the last 6 weeks highlighted by their annihilation of Collingwood and confining the Kangaroos to 5 goals last week. One concern from last week’s performance was Brown’s domination on the score sheet kicking 55% of their score. They got very little out of Brennan, Copeland, Mills and Hooper. This will play into Hawthorn’s hands, who have closed down Brown successfully in the past. As far as personnel goes, the Hawks are far more experienced than their previous meeting with the injection of Crawford, Brown, Vandenberg, Smith and Dixon who weren’t there in Round 1. I’m sure the weather will have an impact on the game and in a 50-50 game, I lean to Brisbane to win, but the Hawks can match them in every area.

Port Adelaide will smash Carlton at AAMI.

The Dogs can’t let this one slip against the Demons at the Dome. With Johnson less than 50-50 to play, it will be interesting to see where the goals will come from, but the Demons defence is not the best. Amazingly, the Demons have just about all of their top tier players lining up, but only a handful of second tier players fit to play and are using 9 players outside their best 22. It was close last time these teams met, but the Dogs have too much to lose and should win by a few goals.

Sydney and St.Kilda are close to full strength for their game at Telstra Stadium. The Saints have had the wood over Sydney of late and it should be another arm wrestle this time around. Two very evenly matched teams with the result to be decided by which forward line functions the best. It won’t be a disaster if the Saints lose, but they’ll be under pressure to make the top 8. The Swans have no excuses and should hold out the Saints whose fade outs in recent weeks have become chronic.

The game between the Kangaroos and West Coast is up for grabs and I haven’t a clue how to assess it. The winner will lock up a top 4 spot and I’ll watch with interest.

Geelong host Adelaide in a game that will be closer than most people think. The Crows will close the game down, and a team hasn’t done that to the Cats for a while. Both midfields are evenly matched, and a lot will hinge on the fitness of Bock and Rutten. The Cats just keep rolling along, but may be susceptible up forward if the rain falls in the lead up to the match. The Cats should get home, but only narrowly. Dockers will be pushed in the 1^st half by the Bombers but should pull away after half time and win well. The Bombers were absolutely dreadful last week, and couldn’t perform that poorly again. Number of players missing from best 22’s

1 – Sydney 3 – Geelong, St.Kilda 4 – Essendon, Hawthorn, Kangaroos, West Coast 5 – Brisbane, Port Adelaide 6 – Adelaide, Collingwood, Richmond, Western Bulldogs 7 – Carlton, Fremantle 9 – Melbourne

Score Predictor & MY TIPS

Richmond 67-79 COLLINGWOOD Hawthorn 78-112 BRISBANE PORT ADELAIDE 124-60 Carlton Melbourne82-101 WESTERN BULLDOGS

SYDNEY109-80 St.Kilda

Kangaroos 98-92 WESTCOAST

GEELONG117-71 Adelaide FREMANTLE 85-70 Essendon

Suggested Bets

BRISBANE Win SYDNEY Margin 1-39 GEELONG Margin 1-39

All the best with your punting this weekend.

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22218862%255E19742,00.html This is where the bookmakers get it good. Plenty of people out there with money to burn and bookies are quite happy to take these types of bets, knowing that it is really mug money. Most truly good punters would be working to money management principles and thus very few of them would be punting to even a tenth of these amounts. "A Lasseters Sports client just keeps "picking off" a little prize each week by betting against the struggling Blues and Tigers. "This is the fourth week he's bet against both teams and he's collected between $1200 and $1500 in the first three weeks," Lasseters' Gerard Daffy said. "This week he's had $20,000 for a $4000 profit on a double with Collingwood to beat the Tigers and Port to beat the Blues." Davies said TAB Sportsbet also had a weekly anti-Blues punter. "He's back again and he's had $40,000 on Port at $1.09 to beat the Blues. We've trimmed Port to $1.06." Davies said another punter had $30,000 on the multi of Collingwood, Port, Dogs, Sydney and Geelong to collect $82,800."

[koi_saisei]

Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Insane, some people have too much money or are just stupid.

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) When i heard about the weather close to the game took Geelong 1st 2 25 in some Multi's with some round ball matches 2night involving the Arse and Vasco (Brazil).... what I also did (stupid me) was see Geelong -15.5 at a decent 1.72 so I split the bet between these two bets now the 1st was magical 33-6 it doesn't get much better, but with the margin difference in to 15 including a last second Geelong goal (their only of the quarter) i am feeling uneasy... is it just me or was that quarter full of Cats fumbling the ball all over the ground and Adelaide getting lucky (a 50 and really just general bounce of the ball)... now the rain obviously is reason behind this but I saw online predicted the rain wouldn't come untill 4ish... so basically ignored it as a factor... surely the cats will pick up (or the crows may drop the ball a little)... I guess the main thing to crows credit is them coming back in the stoppages, dominated in the first the pulled it back quite well.... arrrggg enough of me going on any1 think Cats will go back to old ways and pull away a little in the 2nd half... or is it a coin toss with the weather at this point (as I am a Sydney boy I don't have great knowledge of how the game swings).... I need either, A: reassuring pat on the back, or B: be prepared for the worst.... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol ... I am as sad as they come.... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) ... looks like Adelaide missed their chance with Geelong screaming away to a 34 point lead... I just hope it stays under 39 for Burnt's sake....:clap :clap :clap

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Bombers to cover +31.5 v Fremantle - 1.94 Looking for a strong game from the Bombers and last week was a horrible game that needs to be redeemed by playing some respectful football that they have the ability to play.

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Yeah, West Coast don't strike me as team going all the way, BC. However I was impressed with Sydney ... very solid tidy performance, who seriously exploited a couple of weaknesses in Saints make up. Having said that, it looks like a Geelong v Fremantle Grand Final coming up. (Oooo ... just checked, I have Geel/Syd and Geel/Freo GF Quinellas, taken pre-season, both at 41.00 :hope)

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th)

Pos	Team	Played	Won	Drawn	Lost	For	Against	%	Points
1	Geelong	19	16	0	3	2178	1364	159	64
2	Hawthorn	19	12	0	7	1795	1560	115	48
3	Port Adelaide	19	12	0	7	2004	1770	113	48
4	West Coast	19	12	0	7	1807	1627	111	48
5	Kangaroos	19	12	0	7	1774	1708	103	48
6	Sydney	19	11	0	8	1751	1465	119	44
7	Collingwood	19	11	0	8	1754	1752	100	44
8	Brisbane	19	9	1	9	1760	1591	110	38
9	St. Kilda	19	9	1	9	1548	1647	93	38
10	Western Bulldogs	19	9	1	9	1878	2054	91	38
11	Adelaide	19	9	0	10	1594	1504	105	36
12	Fremantle	19	9	0	10	1929	1870	103	36
13	Essendon	19	9	0	10	1850	2035	90	36
14	Melbourne	19	4	0	15	1596	2085	76	16
15	Carlton	19	4	0	15	1872	2493	75	16
16	Richmond	19	2	1	16	1661	2226	74	10

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) My Round-22 ladder prediction (points split according to probabilities).

Geelong	74
West Coast	58
Hawthorn	55
Kangaroos	54
Sydney	53
Port Adelaide	51
Collingwood	51
Fremantle	45
St.Kilda	44
Brisbane	42
Adelaide	42
W. Bulldogs	41
Essendon	40
Carlton	21
Melbourne	19
Richmond	13

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Taza, if your reading this from the bottom of Bass Straight ... well done on a couple of nice woman's round picks. :clap :lol

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th)

I ain't touching either Carlton or Richmond to get the 4 points!! I just ain't!! :wall

GOD-****ING-DAMMIT!!!!!! :@ :wall :@ :wall :puke And ditto to the umpires at Geelong. Quite leterally gave the Crows 5 free-kicks to send our lowest total over by 5 points. (btw, friendly bunch in Melbourne aren't you...had a meal at St. Kilda and (more than)a few beers in the corner pub, watching the freaking replay (honestly, I'm not sure how you all put up with the broadcasting times etc. :moon) ...when half way through the last with scores nice and even, and me barracking ferociously for Collingwood at this point!!... ...some guy walks passed and tells me not to worry, 'cause Richmond won. Well thank you so much Sir Knows-a-lot. :spank (oh well, still more happy about Richmond winning than Collingwood getting up by 37 points I guess. :$ )

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Re: AFL Football - Round 19 (August 12th - 14th) Restores your faith in humanity, doesn't it? :clap .Maybe wouldn't help with the car break-down or if getting mugged (neither would bother me so much) but these ***** are always there to help with a result. When I was nine (before live GF TV) my brother and I kicked the footy outside all day so we could watch the Grand Final replay without knowing the result. She knew, but it still didn't stop my sister ... 'Carlton won by three points". :wall