Guest AnothrSpacecat Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Re: Chile v Paraguay livescore says 89 and 90 minutes:rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Re: Chile v Paraguay thats generous! :rollin I was listening on radio and tehy said 91st and 93rd :lol :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Andy Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Re: Chile v Paraguay Matt, where did you manage to listen to that ?, the only stuff I could get was in Spanish or whatever language they speak. Great result though, I went to bed resigned to losing a wedge but also hoping to get up to a nice surprise. :smokin the best I could find was a minute by minute ticker thing which I could partially translate and get an idea what was happening. Did Bolivia have a goal dissalowed just after half time ?, only according to the ticker they did only for it to be chalked off a minute later, I nearly choked on me kebab :lol I may be a mile off the mark but from what I read, Bolivia whipped Venezuela ? is that right ?, apart from the last 2 mins that is :hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crowie1969 Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Re: Chile v Paraguay The money I won will now pay my heart surgery after listening to the game - :lol :rollin :lol :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Re: Chile v Paraguay Ian, I listened to Radio Avocion which is in spanish but I did 3 years of spanish and have listened like this for a couple of years so I can now pick up enough to get by. Its just basically listening out for players names etc that will get you by. I presume you had the minuto de minuto of peru.com up, they did chalk of a bolivia goal but I dont no why as it was never dissallowed. On the game, Bolivia totally dominated the first half but Venezuela dominated the second half and Bolivia acored agaisnt the run of play bigtime, a fair result would have been a draw but ive had some rough luck lately so I deserved this one. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Brazil Crowie - You could be right, they are strong at home. However the point was 12.5/1 was an exceptional price -I reckon they should be no bigger than 6-7/1. Uruguay are a strong international side and IMO are very overrated. Probably gonna stay up to watch the match and may play a little more In Running if that market is up.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deancreus Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Re: Brazil Well Im staying up for this match so looking for a little interest bet. Brazil will win IMO but price is pretty low and wouldnt like to touch over/under because even the most attacking of matches have a tendency to end 1-0. Anyone help with corners? Would I be wrong in thinking South American matches have less corners than say European matches because of the style of play? Im just thinking of a little 9 or under bet to fulfill my dream of betting on what seems a pointless thing in the wonder that is the corners market :) Failing that these feisty South Americans always look good for 9pts + on the betfair booking index. Anyone know what level the rivalry between these two countries is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 brazil - uruguay Dean - Im also staying up for this game, thank god for tonsilitis and the rest of the week off work:D Anyway about the match: I took a little of Uruguay at 12.5/1 earlier in the week and I believe they are still value for a decent result. I am not saying they will win but they are much better than the odds suggest. Uruguay have a newish manager who will not stand for any petulance and took Forlan off as soon as he got involved in an incident in the last game. I expect a tight game with the away side v.defensive in the first half not wanting to give anything away. However Zayaleta at Juve and Forlan have bags of pace and Brazil are suspect at the back - Lucio dwells on the ball far to much and full backs are prone to go walkabouts. I also like Uruguay +1.5 on the AH. First goal after 26 mins at 10/11 with B365. So in short I dont expect too many bookings, Uruguay will want to keep it tight in the first half so maybe low corner count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Andy Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Re: Brazil deancrus, i think your point about bookings is a decent one. these south/central american refs are sommat else and from what i`ve seen theyre partial to pulling the card out, so that combined with players who tend to go down quicker and easier than Gillian Taylforth on the hard shoulder of the motorway, your bound to get a run for your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 from bbc website A Little info courtesy of the BBC: Uruguay's Juan Ramon Carrasco is no ordinary coach. In Saturday's World Cup qualifier at home to Chile, young midfielder Pablo Munhoz was playing his first competitive international. Carrasco awarded him the captaincy - and then hauled him off at half time when he was not happy with his performance. Also replaced at the interval was Diego Forlan. The Manchester United striker was not playing badly, nor was he injured. But he had picked up a yellow card after becoming involved in a petulant tangle with a Chile defender. This is the type of behaviour that Carrasco can't stand, and will not tolerate. So off came Forlan. Uruguay's coach, a skilful midfielder in his playing days, is a true football romantic. He wants his side to play clean, attacking football - and he puts his team-sheet where his mouth is. On Wednesday Carrasco's Uruguay face the supreme test for an attacking side - they travel to take on world champions Brazil Packed with strikers and creative midfielders, Uruguay are playing the kind of football that guarantees a full house in Montevideo's Centenario stadium. Having so many fast strikers always gives them the option of lengthening the play with a forward pass. The opposition are forced to drop back, creating space for Uruguay to mix up their game with a rapid exchange of short passes. In their home matches against Bolivia and Chile some of their football has been a joy to behold. But can it work against the top sides - especially away from home? In their one trip so far they started off brightly against Paraguay - but were over-run in the second half, unable to cope with their opponent's power in the air, and beaten 4-1. So there are still plenty of doubts about Carrasco's unorthodox methods. But this week, one way or the other, they may get cleared up. Because on Wednesday Carrasco's Uruguay face the supreme test for an attacking side - they travel to take on world champions Brazil. Football would certainly be more interesting if there were more coaches imitating the approach of Juan Ramon Carrasco The skill, pace and power of Brazil's forward line is quite breathtaking. Opponents usually try to cope with the likes of Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Kaka by crowding them out, reducing their space by getting as many men around the ball as possible. Uruguay cannot do that and maintain their attacking philosophy - they can only put 11 players on the field. Carrasco will inevitably take precautions. He will go with a back four, rather than the line of 3 defenders he uses at home. And he will almost certainly re-enforce the midfield by dropping one of his strikers. But he says that the central idea - to attack the opposition - will remain. One of the joys of football is the fact that it can be interpreted in so many different styles. It is like a universal language which is spoken with many different accents. But it is inevitably true that successful teams are copied, while the losers are condemned to re-think. So it would be nice if, whatever the result on Wednesday night, Uruguay come away from Brazil with their pride intact. Football would certainly be more interesting if there were more coaches imitating the approach of Juan Ramon Carrasco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 its done! layed brazil at 1.37 for max 10pts. Backed Uruguay with 1.5 start AH at approx 1.7 Nothing like having all your eggs in one basket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 1-0 Crumbs:rolleyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 2-0 Ronaldo Holy sh!t these boys can play a bit. Who needs to defend when your creating 3 or 4 chances per minute. May as well persevere see if we can get a flukey goal back. Anymore for the yellows and im off to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 re GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL GGGGUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL!!!!!! Nice finish from Sally and we have life - lets have another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 @#%$ YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! Forlan is sensational:eek 2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 re AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH HALLELULJA! 2-3 Brazil OG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Finished Fantastic 3-3 Lost a few quid backing Uruguay to win, but made a few more on the AH and laying Brazil. I shall sleep easy tonight:hat :hat :hat :hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BarrowMike Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 3-3 What a great game that was - thank Thurrock I didn't have any money riding on the outcome. :lol Nice one Steve, I hope your heart's ok after that rollercoaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Re: 3-3 Brilliant game, wish we had entertainment like that every night on sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 re Cheers Mike - Just like I said the game would be tight and Uruguay wouldnt want to give anything away in the first half:rollin :rollin :rollin On a serious note could you ever see a british team coming out at half time 2-0 down and it could have been 8-0, putting another couple of attackers on Recoba and Chevanton and adopting the attitude "Well we will either get beat 6-0 or take something from the game!" - I think not. Anyway it was fantastic entertainment and nice to collect a few quid at the same time;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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