aliando Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY the strike rate I had for my original staking plan was 66% at odds of 4/6 but have put aside the next two years approx, to get my systems sorted, staking plans established and most of my debts paid in order to start seriously looking at making gambling my main income. What I've found is that for simple 1x2 betting, my average odds with success tend to be around the 1.3-1.4 odds. My patience with the betting is something i'm beginning to master and why my stakes are not high at this point in time - I'm trying to only bet on matches that, if/once my staking plans have reached the specific stage, I would be happy to put on £1000 - hence the figure I used at the start of this thread. Unfortunately, this is often putting me off the bigger priced bets, but since I've started to do this, my profit yield is increasing. However, with other markets, such as under/over 2.5, my average odds are around 1.90-2.00. But here, my bets are less frequent. Again, relatively speaking, my systems are still in infancy so I will not get a good idea as to the long term success until a good length of time has passed. I'm currently running approx 12 systems at the moment (ranging from very promising to very risky) and am dropping/introducing systems over time. Hope this is what you meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Hope this is what you meant? Hmm not at all actually, but it's very interesting , good luck with it. I wasn't talking about your betting. I was talking about the strike rate on this thread, and the average odds of peoples bankers. I would have expected a higher striker rate than 66% for bets that people are classifying as certain to win. I was also wondering average odds that people are picking as certainy winners, I'd expect it to quite low, we need 1.5 to break even with this strike rate. In order to turn this thread round into profit (which i'm sure we'll do), we either need to improve strike rate, or increase average odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Footy - African Nations Cup Tuesday 5 pm Ghana to bt Zimbabwe @ 1.29 *BlueSquare* This is a standout bet at a standout price, other books and exchanges are 1.25 @ best or rather 1.2ish. No need to elaborate a lot about Zimbabwe they are simply too bad. Moreover, sitting rock bottom of the group with no chance to qualify. Ghana, who are expected to qualify anyway and will go for a win to qualify for sure. They are third with the first two playing each other so - there is a little problem as if Sengal beat Nigeria just by a single goal, Ghana will need to win by three. Taking an AH would be too risky though as African teams use modern means of communication so if Nigeria are winning comfortably during the second half, there is nothing to force the Ghanians to attack any more. Have seen a lot of ANC matches in the past and some of them were merely finished by kicking the ball in the middle of the field by BOTH teams for twenty minutes (when there was nothing to play for). A straight win is the best looking banker in a long time, though.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamblinghammers Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY slapdash - very well put mate. gambling hammers - has federer won the title (ie the bet)? Sorry mate didn't spot this but as I'm sure you know he won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensibleboy Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Good Luck with this lads but its just not for me. I find it much more interesting and profitable backing odds against as it takes a few patient well picked wins and your in profit. Still good luck with it but I haven't got the cash to go in on 1/4 shots etc. :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoneedsrio Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I was talking about the strike rate on this thread' date= and the average odds of peoples bankers. I would have expected a higher striker rate than 66% for bets that people are classifying as certain to win. I was also wondering average odds that people are picking as certainy winners, I'd expect it to quite low, we need 1.5 to break even with this strike rate. In order to turn this thread round into profit (which i'm sure we'll do), we either need to improve strike rate, or increase average odds. The average odds for the 34 bets is 1.3464705 or near enough 1/3, therefore you need a strike rate of 75% plus. I'm with sensibleboy this type of betting is not for me, however each to their own. I feel I must make one comment though, if you place a long term bet you are tying up valuable capital. You have 200 points tied up on Chelsea, Reading, Sunderland & Gretna & yes they may each come up in record time but not until late March/early April when you will return 12.02 points, a profit of 6% is this really worth it? Rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Hmm not at all actually, but it's very interesting , good luck with it. I wasn't talking about your betting. I was talking about the strike rate on this thread, and the average odds of peoples bankers. I would have expected a higher striker rate than 66% for bets that people are classifying as certain to win. I was also wondering average odds that people are picking as certainy winners, I'd expect it to quite low, we need 1.5 to break even with this strike rate. In order to turn this thread round into profit (which i'm sure we'll do), we either need to improve strike rate, or increase average odds. :$ For this thread, I was expecting that the average odds would be around 1.20 requiring an 80% strike rate in order to break even but would have expected that banker bets would have returned around 95% - this has not been the case as can be seen. I would envisage that the way to turn this thread round will require more bets at lower odds (that actually win ;) ) rather than increasing the odds, as this would indicate more of a risk. Footy - African Nations Cup Tuesday 5 pm Ghana to bt Zimbabwe @ 1.29 *BlueSquare* This is a standout bet at a standout price, other books and exchanges are 1.25 @ best or rather 1.2ish. No need to elaborate a lot about Zimbabwe they are simply too bad. Moreover, sitting rock bottom of the group with no chance to qualify. Ghana, who are expected to qualify anyway and will go for a win to qualify for sure. They are third with the first two playing each other so - there is a little problem as if Sengal beat Nigeria just by a single goal, Ghana will need to win by three. Taking an AH would be too risky though as African teams use modern means of communication so if Nigeria are winning comfortably during the second half, there is nothing to force the Ghanians to attack any more. Have seen a lot of ANC matches in the past and some of them were merely finished by kicking the ball in the middle of the field by BOTH teams for twenty minutes (when there was nothing to play for). A straight win is the best looking banker in a long time, though.;) :ok Tulenos - bet # 34 Ghana to beat Zimbabwe:hope Sorry mate didn't spot this but as I'm sure you know he won no probs mate it's good to have a winner again. :clap gamblinghammers! Returns 30 points profit and much needed too! sensibleboy/whoneedsrio - thanks for your interest. Even if it doesn't appeal, hopefully there may be one bet for each of you highlighted that you may find of interest. It's true to say that money may be tied up for a while and 6% is a small return but the best return on a normal savings account is around the 5% mark at the moment and that is over a year. It all depends upon two things really - what level of returns you want and whether your picks are good; the latter effects us all!:lol update; __________________________________________________________ All bets placed in this thread should be bets which the author has as close to a 100% belief that they will win as possible and it is a bet which they would put a substantial amount of their own money on. This thread is not for bets which people believe have good value, but bets which will definitely win regardless of the odds! Please remember that, as this thread is for banker bets only, people with no/little knowledge of the chosen sport may bet on any bets posted here - so please back up the bet with good reasoning and also discuss the bet within its relevant thread. Start bank - 1000 No. of bets - 34 Won - 17 Lost - 8 Postponed - 1 Outstanding - 8 New Bank = 459 Bets Outstanding 9 - Sunderland to finish bottom of the premier league (1.12~may~post#53-daftpegasus) 10 - Chelsea to win the Premier League (1/33~may~post#59-jaded) 14 - Reading to be promoted (1.05~may~post#103-kevshat) 20 - EDDIE AHERN to win all weather title (1.50(betfair)~march~post#136-Iwasgoing2backthat1) 21 - Ding Jun Hui to qualify for the Snooker World Championship (1.50~start jan 13~post#137&142-gilly2411) 24 - Australia to win VB Series Outright (1.30~13/1-14/2~post#164-Gilly2411) 25 - Gretna to win the second division (1/25~May~post#168-Ralphie7) 34 - Ghana to beat Zimbabwe (1.29~31jan~post#213-Tulenos) When placing a bet on this post, please use the below format (for ease for me, and to make it easier to read):ok Name of Sport Match/Market Date/Time Match Outcome Odds & Bookmaker Reason why this bet is a guarenteed winner (make the explanation easy to read for people who may not follow the chosen sport) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clotty Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY The odds are appalling but if there was one bet I'd put all my money on, it'd be that Sunderland are relegated from the EPL. I don't know if you take these tyes of bets as you don't see the final result until months later, but I thought it was worth a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRat Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY The odds are appalling but if there was one bet I'd put all my money on' date=' it'd be that Sunderland are relegated from the EPL. I don't know if you take these tyes of bets as you don't see the final result until months later, but I thought it was worth a shout.[/quote'] It's already a bet in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY technically the bet accepted is for sunderland to finish bottom. the criteria for placing a bet is that it is a banker - "All bets placed in this thread should be bets which the author has as close to a 100% belief that they will win as possible and it is a bet which they would put a substantial amount of their own money on. This thread is not for bets which people believe have good value, but bets which will definitely win regardless of the odds! Please remember that, as this thread is for banker bets only, people with no/little knowledge of the chosen sport may bet on any bets posted here - so please back up the bet with good reasoning and also discuss the bet within its relevant thread." and zimbabwe lead 2-0:sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY FTGhana1 - 2Zimbabwe unlucky Tulenos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Sorry about the Ghana pick - lost quite a few quid on them myself:( And their only goal came just at the end of the match too and Zimbabwe scored two more goals (disallowed):( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I got a banker bet for you. This thread not to be in profit come the end of Feb 06! Odds will be that skinny it's not worth backing!! Seriously, I can't get over some of the bets that have lost, it's incredible! Like Tomas' one today for Ghana to beat a very average Zimbabwe side and they go and lose the match, what the fcuk! Hope it picks up for you Ali, I'm sure it can only get better mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I got a banker bet for you. This thread not to be in profit come the end of Feb 06! Odds will be that skinny it's not worth backing!! Seriously, I can't get over some of the bets that have lost, it's incredible! Like Tomas' one today for Ghana to beat a very average Zimbabwe side and they go and lose the match, what the fcuk! Hope it picks up for you Ali, I'm sure it can only get better mate. will give it a little bit longer, but is proving to be a lot of work to lose money so quickly :sad. Dunno how much rope I'm prepared to chuck at it before I release the trap door... ah well. Unlucky Tulenos - perhaps its the thread, I'm starting to think it's cursed! There's probably a lot of money to be made by laying all these bets.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Name of Sport=Horse Racing Match/Market=Wincanton Date/Time=Thursday 02/02/2006 @ 1pm Match Outcome= BEN'S TURN to win Odds & Bookmaker= R/P forecast 1/5 Reason why this bet is a guarenteed winner = Clearly, Alan King has bigger things in mind for BEN'S TURN, who holds entries in the Royal & SunAlliance and Brit Insurance Hurdle at Cheltenham, and it will come as a major surprise if she does not make it five out of five. Unbeaten in three bumpers and kept a perfect score by landing a decent 2m5f mares race at Warwick on hurdling debut, albeit not so impressive as looked likely when leading on the bit before two out (tended to wander); appears to have less to do under penalty here. TipsterSelectionSpotlight:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's Turn12Racing Post Ratings:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnTopspeedPostdata:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnLambourn:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's Turn*The NorthThe Times:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnTelegraph:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Guardian:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnTipsterSelecionIndependent:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=635563&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Gulshique1Daily Mail:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Express:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnDaily Mirror:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Sun:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Star:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnNewmarketThe SouthWest Country only the Independent goes against him in the R/P Tipsters :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Name of Sport=Horse Racing Match/Market=Wincanton Date/Time=Thursday 02/02/2006 @ 1pm Match Outcome= BEN'S TURN to win Odds & Bookmaker= R/P forecast 1/5 Reason why this bet is a guarenteed winner = Clearly, Alan King has bigger things in mind for BEN'S TURN, who holds entries in the Royal & SunAlliance and Brit Insurance Hurdle at Cheltenham, and it will come as a major surprise if she does not make it five out of five. Unbeaten in three bumpers and kept a perfect score by landing a decent 2m5f mares race at Warwick on hurdling debut, albeit not so impressive as looked likely when leading on the bit before two out (tended to wander); appears to have less to do under penalty here. TipsterSelectionSpotlight:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's Turn12Racing Post Ratings:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnTopspeedPostdata:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnLambourn:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's Turn*The NorthThe Times:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnTelegraph:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Guardian:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnTipsterSelecionIndependent:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=635563&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Gulshique1Daily Mail:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Express:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnDaily Mirror:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Sun:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnThe Star:OWSize('','http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=636399&race_id=398651',620,480,'no','yes','yes')'>Ben's TurnNewmarketThe SouthWest Country only the Independent goes against him in the R/P Tipsters :hope Came 2nd at odds of 2/11!:loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensibleboy Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I sincerely hope none of you had a huge amount on this horse. Lads, betting at these odds is really not worth it. That just shows anything can happen. £100 is a big bet for me and If I was to back that horse at 2/11 for £100 what is the point. Risking £100 just for £15 profit or so. No way. I would much rather put £100 on a solid 3/1 chance, or £50 ew on a 6/1 chance. Again Im not taking a dig at your system as I appreciate you are trying to make money but I am simply trying to help as this is the best way to go down the slippy slope and end up bankrupt. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY not aliando's fault or his system the selection was mine and mine alone. I agree with you that under normal circumstances no one would bet on anything at that price but forget the price you can't tell me you thought it would get beat. If you check my selections for the Daily Horse Racing competition you will see that i had HOLLYWOOD as a reserve HOLLYWOOD last night was forecast in the R/P @ 9/1 i was pretty sure it would place but didn't think it would win and not at 20/1. 2nd or 3rd @ 9/1 wouldn't give me many points hence the reason it was only selected as a reserve. This thread is not for bets which people believe have good value, but bets which will definitely win regardless of the odds! the idea behind this thread was very original he was looking for nailed on winners. i posted the selection in good faith because i thought it was nailed on a value bet - no would i back it as a single bet ? - no Aliando i am very sorry mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoneedsrio Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I think it's become fairly obvious by now that this is not going to work in it's current form. The concept of buying money doesn't work, every time a loser is backed at these odds several more winners are needed just to break even. Two or three losers closely together increases the pressure to find winners, confidence wanes & at the point this thread has arrived at with 10 bets & 500 points down the run needed to get back to square one would have to be exceptional. Because of the pressure created anybody who's posted a losing bet will now be reluctant to put up another pick in case that doesn't win & your pool of posters dries up which seems the case here. The "what would you bet a £1000 on" is the wrong approach. My answer is nothing & I suspect there are few if any in the PL who would bet to this level. The question "what would you have your maximum on" is rather different. The basic idea of a pool of posters with sound knowledge of several sports is pretty sound. There are posters on here whose selections I always have a look at & others who's choices I dismiss. The ones who I take notice of have one major factor in common they put their reasoning in their posts. I would put up the following for discussion. 1. Change the thread to Your Maximum bets. This will mean that someone to whom a tenner is their limit can post with the big hitters & will result in genuine bets which have actually been placed & not the fantasy £1000 stuff. 2. Keep the basic layout for posting but change the last line to, Name of Sport Match/Market Date/Time Match Outcome Odds & Bookmaker Reason why this bet is a maximum for me I suspect this format would result in fewer bets but at better odds rather than the "it's nailed on but I wouldn't back it stuff", this would in turn reduce the pressure to picks winners at all costs. Any Thoughts? Rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY will give it a little bit longer, but is proving to be a lot of work to lose money so quickly :sad. Dunno how much rope I'm prepared to chuck at it before I release the trap door... you need to give it until the end of the year, we should finish what we started. I see no reason why this thread will not be in profit at the end of the year, we've had a bad streak, these things happen. We need to give it more time to see what happens, full year before any judgements from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumlesen Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Foolsgold, i see you have been inspired by some danish drawings, nice avatar:clap off topic i know, i am sorry, just had to comment on it:\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoneedsrio Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY you need to give it until the end of the year' date=' we should finish what we started. I see no reason why this thread will not be in profit at the end of the year, we've had a bad streak, these things happen. We need to give it more time to see what happens, full year before any judgements from me.[/quote'] Perhaps an update of the current situation would be useful, the current bank & the return from the open bets. this would then allow us to calculate the number of winning bets at the average odds (1/3) needed to return to square one if the open bets are sucessful. Rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Valid points, whoneedsrio. I think the thread should take this turn, maybe we should even state from which level down the odds are prohibitive, ie. such bets shouldn't qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I think this one is a banker now Aliando. Name of Sport=Football Match/Market=Nationwide Conference Date/Time=May 2006 Match Outcome=Accrington Stanley to win the title Odds & Bookmaker=1.29 Corals Reason why this bet is a guaranteed winner = They are 11 points ahead of the chasing pack and have a game in hand of most. There are only 15 games left so in order to lose the title now someone is going to have to outscore them by a point every match which isn't going to happen. They are 4 wins ahead of anyone else and having only lost 4 games all season they are unlikely to lose 4 in the last 15 matches. I think it's a banker but obviously if you decide we can't wait until May for the payout then scrap it but I thought I'd put it in just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgin Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Rugby Union France v Scotland 5/2/2005 France to Win 1.16 Betfair France won't be settling for anything less then winning the 6 nations this year. Scotland as always will be battling for the wooden spoon with Italy. No chance of Scotland beating a team that will be in contention for the World Cup in this match up. I will be backing this up with a considerable chunk of my bank roll, so lets hope I'm right :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgin Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY Not as good value as the french bet, but still a "banker": Rugby Union Ireland v Italy 4/2/2005 Ireland to Win 1.03 >Betfair Italy have been the whipping boys of this competition in the past, and there is no reason to suspect they won't be again this year. The only chance of a win again this year is against the Scottish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY It's been busy here whilst I was away... with 3 losses and one winner (at 1.03) from the last 4 settled bets, I think it's showing that we may be flogging a dead horse. I've updated the stats below but will now end this thread as an unworkable system. Should anyone wish to create a similar thread (or variations) then I give you my full backing - I'm still sure there is a workable version achievable, and hopefully there is a better person out there will be able to take some inspiration from here and make it into a success. The conversation through this thread highlights the many different approaches that can be applied to create a similar system. I want to thank the following people for their participation and comments through this thread - :clap:ok Mr Intensity Irish TW Jeffers Johnnyrushton Foolsgold Meatman Chala Maximum77 Danny Cash Carl Dzordz Bamse81 The Rat Jaded Slapdash Ralphie7 daftpegasus Billyhills PoshPunter LebaBezMotike Kevshat Football Tipper munkimafia mattywallace121 K'ching gilly2411 Iwasgoing2backthat1 Tulenos gamblinghammers davidmphill Nikola FleetFanatic Sharpe1ne Citizen Kane sensibleboy whoneedsrio clotty mcgin plus all the lurkers;) (hope I didn't miss anyone out) I can only apologise to the people who have lost money following this thread and will take some of the blame as, with hindsight, from the offset I did not make it clear as to the exact aim of thread clear enough which had a negative effect on the thread, from which it failed to recover. Below are the outstanding bets, which people may still have running. aliando. __________________________________________________ ________ All bets placed in this thread should be bets which the author has as close to a 100% belief that they will win as possible and it is a bet which they would put a substantial amount of their own money on. This thread is not for bets which people believe have good value, but bets which will definitely win regardless of the odds! Please remember that, as this thread is for banker bets only, people with no/little knowledge of the chosen sport may bet on any bets posted here - so please back up the bet with good reasoning and also discuss the bet within its relevant thread. Start bank - 1000 No. of bets - 38 Won - 18 Lost - 11 Postponed - 1 Outstanding - 8 New Bank = 310 Bets Outstanding 9 - Sunderland to finish bottom of the premier league (1.12~may~post#53-daftpegasus) 10 - Chelsea to win the Premier League (1/33~may~post#59-jaded) 14 - Reading to be promoted (1.05~may~post#103-kevshat) 20 - EDDIE AHERN to win all weather title (1.50(betfair)~march~post#136-Iwasgoing2backthat1) 21 - Ding Jun Hui to qualify for the Snooker World Championship (1.50~start jan 13~post#137&142-gilly2411) 24 - Australia to win VB Series Outright (1.30~13/1-14/2~post#164-Gilly2411) 25 - Gretna to win the second division (1/25~May~post#168-Ralphie7) 36 - Accrington Stanley to win the conference (1.29~May~post#234-Kevshat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callpane Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY :sad :lol Rugby Union France v Scotland 5/2/2005 France to Win 1.16 Betfair France won't be settling for anything less then winning the 6 nations this year. Scotland as always will be battling for the wooden spoon with Italy. No chance of Scotland beating a team that will be in contention for the World Cup in this match up. I will be backing this up with a considerable chunk of my bank roll, so lets hope I'm right :) hope you enjoyed the result, i know this may seem like after eventing, but just too good an opportunity for a good scotsman to pass up. Back to the drawing board:nana :lol :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilchris Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY :D The idea was a good one aliando, maybee should tweak it about a bit and make the criteria more clear and give it another bash, Ive enjoyed reading this thread, well done mate.:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callpane Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Re: 2006 - 365 days of guaranteed profit BANKER BETS ONLY I still feel that this was a brilliant idea, but how to improve it??? Well how about having a discussion between the top men on the forums, surely with a bit more analysis and discussion, this could be a very effective thread for rookie punters (like myself), and the clued-in veterans. Any thoughts:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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