BillyHills Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Two big betting handicaps this weekend, first we have the BetVictor Gold Cup on Saturday, this used to be the Paddy Power and is still known by that name in many places. On Sunday we have the Greatwood Hurdle which has seen some top class winner over the years. Sat 2.25 2m4f (2m4f44y) (Old) BetVictor Gold Cup Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (Class 1) (4yo+) Trends: 8/10 Aged 7 or over 8/10 Carried 11st 7lbs or less 7/10 Rated over 143 15/21 Placed in first 4 last time (8 won) 10 previous winners had won over this trip 17/21 Had won over further than 2m4f Sunday 3.002m½f (2m87y) (Old) Unibet Greatwood Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) (Class 1) (4yo+) Trends 9/10 Aged 6 or less 8/10 Rated 135 or more 7/10 Carried 10st 10lbs or more 16/21 Finished first 4 last time (9 won) 17/21 Had ran less than twice that season. richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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richard-westwood Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Already rated gold cup top 24 runners ......I'd guess around 20 to 22 will run ... Baron alco 377 Benatar 375 These 2 are 11 pts clear of the fav rather be...... and both are trained by Gary Moore...interesting ....any thoughts ?? BillyHills, Valiant Thor and Snert 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, richard-westwood said: Already rated gold cup top 24 runners ......I'd guess around 20 to 22 will run ... Baron alco 377 Benatar 375 These 2 are 11 pts clear of the fav rather be...... and both are trained by Gary Moore...interesting ....any thoughts ?? ON Timeform site..... Gary Moore is hopeful that Benatar will return to winning ways in next month's BetVictor Gold Cup at Cheltenham. The BetVictor Gold Cup is ran over a trip of two miles four and a half furlongs, and is recognised as a traditional early-season highlight over the jumps. Speaking on Monday, trainer Gary Moore said: "He was another horse that was too fresh at Newton Abbot. "Everything that could go wrong went wrong. Nothing was run to suit him that day. "He is fine now, and all being well he will probably go to Cheltenham next for the BetVictor Gold Cup." richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) Certainly interesting With the forecast paying around 150/1 currently And benatar 14/1 it's beginning to look a lot like Xmas..hmmmm.....I'm thinking 10pt ew....5pt rev forecast ...about 850 pts if 1st and 2nd .....Xmas all paid for ???....gotta be worth a shot and a few big races get same trainer 1st and 2nds ... Edited November 12, 2018 by richard-westwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Greatwood hurdle Charlie parkes 377 Midnight shadow 367 Ballymoy 365 Seeems an easy choice ....Henderson...10pts clear and 12/1 ??.....roll the dice Charlie parkes 10pts ew 12/1 betfred black rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 My 2 top rated for the Gold cup would be 20pts staked Ill do Sundays later on Saturday BillyHills and richard-westwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 BetVictor Gold Cup Decs Greatwood Hurdle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 BetVictor Gold Cup Just lost my post, the selections were 1pt EW Javert 25/1 Laddies 1pt Win Kalondra 7/1 William Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Greatwood Hurdle - Sunday Trends9/10 Aged 6 or less We lose Old Guard, Caius Marcius, Irish Roe, Mad Jack Mytton, Man Of Plenty.8/10 Rated 135 or more We lose Equs Amadeus and below7/10 Carried 10st 10lbs or more We lose Nube Negra16/21 Finished first 4 last time (9 won) We lose Western Ryder, 17/21 Had ran less than twice that season. We lose Verdana Blue, Silver Streak, Le Patriote, Storm Rising Tie breaker: Not won beyond 2m Charlie Parcs, Midnight Shadow Selection: 1pt EW Mohaayed 20/1 BetVictor black rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Kings Socks for me e/w 11/1 fairly lightly raced look more improvement to come Pipe likley to have him spot on for this. I think Tom Scudomore will have a very good day today! black rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtc12 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2.25 – BetVictor Gold Cup Chase (Handicap) Grade 3 (CLASS 1) (4yo+) 2m4f110y 16/16 – Had run at Cheltenham before (20) 15/16 – Had won over at least 2m4f over fences before (9,12,13,14) 15/16 – Won by a UK-based trainer 12/16 – Had won at Cheltenham before (3,4,5,7,11,16,18,19) 11/16 – Aged 6 or 7 years-old (8,10,17) 11/16 – Had won just 2 or 3 times over fences before (1,2,15) Rather Be @ 11\2 Betfair Kalondra @ 6\1 Ladbrokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Benatar was TR but is a NR now Frodon is next top rated but I think thats because he has been running in Grade 1 company. 18/1 EW is worth a nibble though. richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 7:28 PM, richard-westwood said: Already rated gold cup top 24 runners ......I'd guess around 20 to 22 will run ... Baron alco 377 Benatar 375 These 2 are 11 pts clear of the fav rather be...... and both are trained by Gary Moore...interesting ....any thoughts ?? Nice doing business .....shame about non runner but fab run bmc, vikki37, Fellcrawler and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Greatwood Hurdle - Sunday EW is not my bag but at these prices its money back+ if placed 20pts staked Edited November 17, 2018 by Valiant Thor put B365...... my bad richard-westwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) On 16/11/2018 at 9:49 AM, richard-westwood said: Greatwood hurdle Charlie parkes 377 Midnight shadow 367 Ballymoy 365 Seeems an easy choice ....Henderson...10pts clear and 12/1 ??.....roll the dice Charlie parkes 10pts ew 12/1 betfred Western Ryder 364 Cauis marcius 364 Those are 4th and 5th rated .......any one of top 5 could win this but I think caius marcius is vastly overpriced at 50/1 based on that....and could sneak a place if gives his best Caius Marcius 1pt ew 50/1 bet365 Edited November 18, 2018 by richard-westwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Cant pick my nose at the minute so a couple of cagey picks for me in the greatwood hurdle. CHARLI PARCS im on 12/1 6place 1/5 from a very strong yar top jock on top has some good form and fair mark fair price my other selection needs to jump better than when last seen over hurdles has had a recent run on the flat should be ready for this and is on a good mark with 7lb claiimer on top decent e/w price & NIETZSCHE 16/1 e/w 6 place. Valiant Thor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Tedthewolf said: Cant pick my nose at the minute so a couple of cagey picks for me in the greatwood hurdle. CHARLI PARCS im on 12/1 6place 1/5 from a very strong yar top jock on top has some good form and fair mark fair price my other selection needs to jump better than when last seen over hurdles has had a recent run on the flat should be ready for this and is on a good mark with 7lb claiimer on top decent e/w price & NIETZSCHE 16/1 e/w 6 place. There is a god after all!! A Winner at last SP 20/1......needed that. Valiant Thor, BillyHills and vikki37 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Tedthewolf said: There is a god after all!! A Winner at last SP 20/1......needed that. Well done Ted Tedthewolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Thor Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 10:20 AM, Valiant Thor said: My 2 top rated for the Gold cup would be 20pts staked 21 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: Greatwood Hurdle - Sunday EW is not my bag but at these prices its money back+ if placed 20pts staked A nice winner Saturday with Barron Alco No joy on Sunday, Vado Forte tried to win from the front but faded after the last and I think @BillyHills jinxed my other selection as he picked it as well BillyHills and Tedthewolf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Finished 7th 2 hours ago, Valiant Thor said: and I think @BillyHills jinxed my other selection as he picked it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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