swooperman Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Yeah, but having thought about it, if you back any other bowler than an opener against Bangladesh you might not even get a run for your money........& its Harmys home ground. I heard a theory the other day that Harmy bowls better with a used ball & might swop opening with Freddie & come on 1st change, cant see it at Durham though.....Vaughan would get lynched!! For interests sake, the relevant figures in the lords test were: Jones - 1st: 6-4-4-1. 2nd: 11-3-29-3. Total: 17-7-33-4 Flintoff - 1st: 5-0-22-2. 2nd: 9.5-0-44-3. Total: 14.5-0-66-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Stans odds chaned to: WI 11/4 draw 11/8 Pakistan 11/8 BBC says decent weather fri, sat, sun & sun & thunder monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Pakistan batted & after day 1 are 336-6. Younis Khanmade 106, Inzi 50 & there was another 50 as well. Looking at 450 by lunch before being bowled out I would say, they have to chase the game & dont want to bat too long. Pitch looks a bit greenish so looksasthough it hassomething in for the bowlers so Pakistan will fancy their chances of getting a decent lead, if not having massive hopes of the follow on. Back Pakistan before Lara is out, WI after?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Pakistan added only 38 in the morning & were all out for 374. WI had their normal early wobbles but Lara & Sarwan steadied the ship before Sarwan was out for 55. Lara continued & resumes on 125 but crucially Chanderpaul was out on the last ball of the day, giving pakistan something to work on. So WI resume 99 adrift with 6 in hand, & Lara as ever is key......if he bats until lunchhe will be over 180ish & WI will have parity, if still in at tea he will have 250 & WI a 100 lead. A WI lead of approaching 100 would make it very difficult for Pakistan, as really they have to get 350-400 clear with 3.5 to 4 sessions remaining, & if they dont bat until tea today then they only have 3 possibly 4 sessions to do it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies The score I dont think I mentioned is 275-4 Stan James odds: WI 6/4 pakistan 2/1 draw 13/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies CO Browne performance - Under 71 @ 1.83 In his 19 Tests, Browne has reached 71pts on just 7 ocassions. If you were going on past performance this would make the fair odds roughly 2.71 for 71+ and 1.58 for under 71. 4 of these 71pts+ were achieved in his first 6 Tests, meaning his got there just twice out of his last 13 games. One of those was only with the help of a stumping (which you have to discount here, as WI don't get them too often). This is in the balance after the first 2 innings - he picked up 3 catches to move to 30pts, but then got out for a golden duck. Hopefully he'll take only 1 or 2 catches in Pakistan's innings (and no stumpings) and not score enough runs (or not bat) in the final innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Lara fell relatively early this morning for 153, & Wavell Hinds marshalled the tail for 63,, & WI's finished on 404, a lead of 30. Pakistan are now 157-3, 127 ahead with Inzi & Younis Khan at the crease. Stan James go: WI 2/1 Draw 3/1 Pakistan 10/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Day 3 finished with Pakistan on 223-4, 193 ahead with Inzi on 62 & Afridi 16. Pakistan are in a good position for a real push tomorrow, so unless theyre bowled out you would expect them to be 300 ahead by lunch & then a mad scramble to 450 by tea, but theyre already 4 down so the majority of runs has to come from these 2, but Afridi can change a match in an hour. I think they'll get bowled out in the afternoon setting WI around 375 in just over 4 sessions....a decent chance time wise, but they cant just give them a day to bat because WI dont have to win the game so could just bat for the draw. As ever it comes down to one man.....Lara Odds after day 4: WI 9/4 draw 3/1 Pakistan 4/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Browne takes 3 more catches to move to 60pts - hopefully he won't bat, but if he does I need him to score 10 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 6, 2005 Author Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies You might get away with it yet Dave, as I'm not sure whether its raining or bad light....but theyre not playing whatever it is :( Afridi went at it hell for leather from the word go & scored a run a ball 43, but after that Pakistan fell away a bit to be honest, Inzi was 117 not out as they were bowled out for 309, setting WI 280 to win. WI started cautiously & the pitch seemed a bit up & down & definetly wearing, & they lost Gayle for 15 & they were offered the light just before tea @ 38-1. So 242 needed for victory with 9 in hand. There are still theorettically 45 normal minutes left & there is still 46.5 overs left in the day. I got home 5 minutes after they went off so couldnt take the draw to lay off but it was 16/1 when they departed. WI were 8/11, Pakistan 11/10. A full days play & there will be a result, one way or another..... Looking at the stats @ Sabina Park, the highest 4th innings chase is 212-3 for WI v SL in 2003.....so make no mistake, this is an ask.......a couple of higher 4th innings scores have been made, but not to win. If Lara does not contribute on a 5th day pitch, I fear for West Indies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Here goes with Browne anyway, come on Pakistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdy Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies WI finished the day on 114/6. With all recognised batsmen gone. Looks all but impossible for them on the last day. Only weather can save them. Browne on 8*!! Still in with a chance mate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Onto 9, and edged through slips on 4 apparently, need the weather to save me really :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Maybe he is on 8, seems he's lost a run at some point :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Fcuking yes. Browne dismissed for 10 - that run they took away yesterday saves me as he scores 70pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooperman Posted June 7, 2005 Author Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies You jaxi bastaaard :rollin :rollin :ok fair play!! 130-9 now. That cover bet on the draw @ 20/1 was worth it wasnt it?? :lol Oh well, I had peace of mind for all of 20 minutes...then I just felt like a mug.....a winning mug mind you :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdy Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Congrats on the Browne bet mate, doesnt come much closer than that!! Me however not so lucky! My bets were over before the last day. A bit pissed with Bet 365 as they took away the top team batsman option so I couldnt place any cover bets. Anyway both Younis Kahn and Chanderpaul came in second, to Afridi and Lara respectively. Loss of 2.5 units for me. Overall tour = small profit though. Bring on the Ashes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Re: Pakistan in West Indies Cheers rowdy. Unlcuky with the batsman bets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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