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    Pirate53 reacted to Wildgarden in Pricing your own race   
    Have pretty much same as you, managed to post picks on racing chat this time.
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    645 south 
    Another angel 8.5 7/2 9/4 no value 
    Slowmo 7.2 4/1 3/1 no value 
    Another angel should take a lot of beating ...
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    515 south 
    Love your work 9.2 7/2 9/4 no value 
    Legal reform 8.2 4/1 5/2 no value 
    Iva refection 7.8 9/2 7/2 no value 
    Love your work looks to have the strongest form and shoukd run a big race 
    Love your work 9/4 to win 
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Only southwell on today so I'll have a play 
    445 south 
    Mukha magic 9.4 3/1 2/1 no value 
    Mr carbonator   6.8 9/2 15/2 value 
    Mukha magic looks to have strong form coming into this and should run a good race 
    Mukha magic 10pt win 2/1 bet365 
     
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Only small races so no ew really but good to just rest the formulas in small races ....I'm quite happy in the small races but I'm working on a diff formula for the big races ....I've had some success but need more races to test it on ...was hoping taunton was gonna run as I'd picked a test race there but called off .....I think with so many horses in big races fairly close together I thought  it just needs a diff approach to sort them out .....in the big races I want a formula that I know I dont need to look outside the top 3 or 4 rated regardless of race size so the bets almost become automatic .....I'm trying about 5 or 6 diff combinations to see which one is the best ...and 1 of them has given .....race 1 .2nd and   4th ....race 2 3rd ....race 3 ..1st and 4th ....race 4 2nd 5th 6th .....all big 18 runner plus hcaps so I dont think it's just luck ..all prices up to 25/1 .....but I need more test races to make sure not just fluke but it looks very exciting and still a month to go before chelt .....so I'm currently just testing various guns ?? before the war 
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Top 2 1st & 2nd, Poetic 3rd, Al Muff 4th!
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    Pirate53 reacted to Villa Chris in Pricing your own race   
    Not a fan of the all weather racing but I reckon you’d win more on it with the ratings. Could be wrong like, but just an observation. 
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Villa Chris in Pricing your own race   
    Top 2 1st & 2nd, Poetic 3rd, Al Muff 4th!
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Wildgarden in Pricing your own race   
    Top 2 1st & 2nd, Poetic 3rd, Al Muff 4th!
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    Pirate53 reacted to Wildgarden in Pricing your own race   
    Mines below

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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Wildgarden in Pricing your own race   
    Wolves 18.30
    Secret Victory      16.31     5.25/1       11/4      No Value
    Amaysmont         15.28      11/2          11/4      No Value
    Al Muffrih             14.96       6/1          25/1      Value!
    Snow Ocean       14.23       6/1           5/1       No Value
    Poetic Force       13.98      6.25/1       10/1      Value
    Atheeb                13.80       13/2         5/1       No Value
    Kaser                 13.44        7/1          7/1       About right
    Incredibly close h/cap. Al Muffrih down to last winning mark but no form on AW or at the distance.
    Top 2 probably have it, Poetic Force worth a small dabble.
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    350 leopard sat ladbrokes hurdle 
    Moyglass flyer  7.6 12/1 7/1 no value 
    Ciel de Niege 7.3 13/1 11/1 no value 
    Hes a hardy bloke 7.3 13/1 11/1 no value 
    I'll take these 3 ....5pts each and 2pt win doubles on all selected horses above in all 3races.....shoot for a big prize 
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    Pirate53 reacted to MCLARKE in Pricing your own race   
    I would use strike rate as a logical way of adjusting for age.
    The strike rate by age in handicap chases is :-
    4 0.18 5 0.15 6 0.16 7 0.14 8 0.12 9 0.11 10 0.10 11 0.08 12 0.07 13 0.06 14 0.07 15 0.12
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    Pirate53 reacted to Villa Chris in Pricing your own race   
    Catterick 2.00
    Legalised 8.15, 5/1(13/2) no value 
    Bryden Boy 7.95, 8/1(7/1) value 
    Bailarico 7.78, 14/1(7/1) value 
    Big Penny 7.15, 5/1(15/2) no value 
    Jessiemac 7, 10/1(8/1) value 
    top 5 rated in a field of 11. Bailarico looks the standout bet in terms of value and is not far off top rated . 
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Secret ambition value bet wins easily ....the non hcaps ran well today so just need a few more test races to confirm things are working but happy so far 
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Mouheeb  wins ...meshakel 2nd ...happy with that 
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Villa Chris in Pricing your own race   
    My suggestion:
    4/5        1
    6/7        0
    8           1
    9           2
    10         3
    11         4
    12         5
    13         6
    14+       7
    For 10 yo and up add yrs since last win, then knock total off hcap mark.
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Villa Chris in Pricing your own race   
    Devise an age scale maybe? Or just knock the horses age off the handicap mark?
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Trying some non hcaps 
    Uae 2000 guineas thurs meydan 340
    Mouheeb  9.6 4/1 11/8   no value 
    Naval crown 9.5  4/1 6/4 no value 
    Meshakel  8.1 5/1 9/2 no value 
    Only 6 runners so mainly just to check ratings 
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Wildgarden in Pricing your own race   
    I was right to be worried!
    Top 4 came 2nd-5th.
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from Wildgarden in Pricing your own race   
    Kempton 18.30
    Precision Storm     19.33     4.75/1       9/4        No value
    No Nay Bella         17.81      5/1          11/2        Some Value
    Toro Dorado          17.58      5.25/1     13/2        Value
    Charlie Arthur        16.58      5.75/1      7/1         Value
    Rick Blaine            16.00       6/1         25/1        Value         
    Party Island           13.16      15/2        15/2        About right
    El Salvaje              12.19       8/1          7/2         No value
    Top rated no bet.
    I have a bet on El Salvaje from a tipster I follow. Bit worried now I've done this!!
     
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Mission boy was 4th ....been one of those funny outsider days today ...
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    Pirate53 reacted to richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Yes I agree the larger value horses say 5th onwards are dubious unless there is a particular reason to think otherwise they are value bets of course but if your form ratings are accurate then they are up against it .......what I'm finding is most races are won by the top 4 or they go damn well close so I've been short listing my top 4 then going deeper to see if I can narrow it further .....I think if your value bet is in the top 2 then those are very good bets ...I'd call them gold bets .....if top 4 and good prices then silver bets ...weve had 2 40/1 in top 4 so I think if there are huge priced horses there dont be afraid to back them because if their form rating is strong enough to get them into top 4 then they can win regardless of price 
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    Pirate53 reacted to Trotter in Pricing your own race   
    I think this is the way I would approach this ....... you try and do ratings that you're confident about then obviously you have to think that the winner will be your top rated horse ......... otherwise there's no point doing ratings
    The second step would be value .... to see if your top rated is value. If not don't back it even if you think it might win according to your ratings
    There are plenty of races every day ..... if you stuck to backing your top rated horses that were also 'value' you've got half a chance. Leave the other races alone.
    I suppose the other way would be to look at your tip 3 or 4 rated and see if any are massive prices for EW betting
    I'm a bit wary of concluding that my 8th top rated, a 100/1 shot,  is 'value' because I make it a 66/1 shot. There are still 7 horses that you think are more likely to win!
    So I think you should be concentrating on your top rated for win purposes 'if' they are also value.
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    Pirate53 got a reaction from richard-westwood in Pricing your own race   
    Southwell 17.40
    Samovar             15.36        4.75/1        3/1      No value
    Nick Vedder        13.63         11/2          9/4      No value
    Knowing Glance 12.66          6/1          11/2     About Right
    Triple Spear        12.43       6.25/1       14/1      Value
    Another Angel     12.23        13/2         16/1      Value
    Ventura Flame    12.02        13/2         14/1      Value
    Excessable         11.76         7/1           7/2      No  value
    Top 2 way ahead so no bet for me.
    Excessable interesting, came 3rd behind Samovar last time out. Hugh Taylor selection. 
     
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