harry_rag

Not guilty, though I almost shouted out “result” when I read that as it’s as close as I’m getting to a winner! My overall YTD has found it’s way back to its mid April level.
No panic, there’s an inevitable correction on its way! 

Admit it @harry_rag, you've started backing them, 19 losers in a row !

# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 Luxembourg 12 110.40 112.48 2 Auguste Rodin 2.5 109.79 22.07 3 Bluestocking 6 103.86 20.86 4 Sunway 15 102.07 27.94 5 Dubai Honour 26 101.74 40.72 6 Middle Earth 11 100.01   7 Rebel's Romance 4.5 96.27   8 Hans Andersen 151 91.94   9 Goliath 34 83.93   Ascot 3:40
Seems to be as succinct as "back Luxembourg"? Maybe Dubai Honour if you really want a proper e/w price, especially if an extra place were to pop up somewhere.

In the absence of a specific number that can be used in the rating I have to make an "executive decision" on what is the most sensible figure to use. I can't really favour using the SR number as it's a different scale to yours so I've given Sirona a rating of 106 which is based on it's SR number as a % of their top rated. It leaves it clear lowest rating in your numbers.
Ascot 2:25
# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 FRIENDLY SOUL 6 108.92 79.43 2 SOPRANO 4.5 104.04 26.97 3 JULIA AUGUSTA 51 101.42 107.22 4 SIRONA 6.5 101.18 11.42 5 DOOM 10 99.24   6 THORNBROOK 12 97.18   7 NAOMI LAPAGLIA 51 94.15   8 DEVOTED QUEEN 3.75 93.88   The value numbers are so-so here. We're basically flagging the rank outsider as best value with the shorter top rated the next best notion of a bet. Any more educated view on that interpretation would be welcome.

We need to be wary of who we post videos of if the intention is to attract people to the site! 
Fader would be fine but if it was me all the traffic would be going in the opposite direction!

All broadly along the lines of what I've been thinking as a man who spends far too much time talking to himself in certain threads. As a starter for ten this is where I'm up to at present.
"Daily Thread" - I definitely think the football section needs to be more like the racing section if it wants to attract a similar degree of contribution, engagement and viewing. My personal opinion is that a daily thread isn't quite optimum for footy (what if your yankee is split across 2 or 3 days). I'd retain the concept of a midweek thread and a weekend thread but a single one of each where we can post all our bets for that set of games in one places. No more darting off to Italy, Spain, Germany and Wales etc! As now, I'd start the threads in a timely manner so everyone would know where to post their selections and where to look to see fi any decent bets had been posted. I agree it would be a good idea to have a separate thread or threads for antepost betting. Non-League, I don't want to tread on @Darran's toes here but "come the evolution" it probably doesn't need a dedicated section; match bets in the relevant week/weekend thread and anteposts in that area. Chat and banter - keep separate, maybe as a thread rather than a section? (only 6 threads started this year) ELO Ratings Discussion - again, maybe a single thread would suffice Major tournaments (Euros, World Cup etc.) these merit their own sections. I think this year's approach was reasonably balanced (we don't need separate threads for every group, every antepost market, as part of the general move to "less is more".)

@Fader For the avoidance of doubt I'm not @Trotter we are definitely 2 separate entities. He may have hacked my private messages though! 
(Suffice to say there may be vague similarities between the above post and sentiments I've already expressed!)

Ascot 1:50 "Master Rating"
# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 Tales Of The Heart 13 107.31 106.73 2 Simmering 2.625 106.75 19.89 3 Aviation Time 15 106.52 109.78 4 Alice Fairfax 21 101.28 30.16 5 Betty Clover 17 99.65   6 Definitive 10 97.30   7 Mandurah 5.5 95.62   8 Handcuffed 6.5 85.56   Ok, here we go. 3 clear top rated, one the short priced favourite. The other 2 clearly flagged as the value in the race. Alice F edges Simmering out of the top 3 if you rank by MC and Z figures but not great on the value metric.
I prefer the best value horse in the race to have a "Val" number of 110+ but this is close enough to be worth a bet with similarly clear of the rest. Where the best value horse in the race comes in at no more than 105 on that metric it's telling you there's not that much value.
For the avoidance of doubt, this doesn't include my ratings, the "panel" is @MCLARKE @richard-westwood @Zilzalian and the RP Topspeed rating. 

# Ratings Horse Odds Rating Val 1 MC Tales Of The Heart 13 112.56 116.33 2 Zil Aviation Time 15 106.38 109.57 3 RW (R) Simmering 2.625 107.08 26.68 3a RW (V) Aviation Time 15 105.00 107.49 4 TS (R) Simmering 2.625 118.22 36.09 4a TS (V) Aviation Time 15 110.19 115.28 I'm not doing this for every race as it took too long (individually running everyone's ratings) but if we think it adds value I could maybe incorporate it into the template so it gets spat out automatically. This shows everyone's top rated and best value so for MC it's TOtH for both and for Zil it's AT. The other two both top rate the fav but have AT as best value. So if you only want to back one runner then maybe Aviation time is the clear consensus pick.

Ascot 1:50 "Master Rating"
# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 Tales Of The Heart 13 107.31 106.73 2 Simmering 2.625 106.75 19.89 3 Aviation Time 15 106.52 109.78 4 Alice Fairfax 21 101.28 30.16 5 Betty Clover 17 99.65   6 Definitive 10 97.30   7 Mandurah 5.5 95.62   8 Handcuffed 6.5 85.56   Ok, here we go. 3 clear top rated, one the short priced favourite. The other 2 clearly flagged as the value in the race. Alice F edges Simmering out of the top 3 if you rank by MC and Z figures but not great on the value metric.
I prefer the best value horse in the race to have a "Val" number of 110+ but this is close enough to be worth a bet with similarly clear of the rest. Where the best value horse in the race comes in at no more than 105 on that metric it's telling you there's not that much value.
For the avoidance of doubt, this doesn't include my ratings, the "panel" is @MCLARKE @richard-westwood @Zilzalian and the RP Topspeed rating. 

Quite a lot of work gone into this endeavour by the lads so  and lets hope we can get some decent results.

# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 Luxembourg 12 110.40 112.48 2 Auguste Rodin 2.5 109.79 22.07 3 Bluestocking 6 103.86 20.86 4 Sunway 15 102.07 27.94 5 Dubai Honour 26 101.74 40.72 6 Middle Earth 11 100.01   7 Rebel's Romance 4.5 96.27   8 Hans Andersen 151 91.94   9 Goliath 34 83.93   Ascot 3:40
Seems to be as succinct as "back Luxembourg"? Maybe Dubai Honour if you really want a proper e/w price, especially if an extra place were to pop up somewhere.

# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 Luxembourg 12 110.40 112.48 2 Auguste Rodin 2.5 109.79 22.07 3 Bluestocking 6 103.86 20.86 4 Sunway 15 102.07 27.94 5 Dubai Honour 26 101.74 40.72 6 Middle Earth 11 100.01   7 Rebel's Romance 4.5 96.27   8 Hans Andersen 151 91.94   9 Goliath 34 83.93   Ascot 3:40
Seems to be as succinct as "back Luxembourg"? Maybe Dubai Honour if you really want a proper e/w price, especially if an extra place were to pop up somewhere.

Yea, Zil summed it up, a lot of time and effort gone in to this by all you guys, so even before a race is run, cheers. 

The 4 runner race has a confounding variable anyway being that there is a question mark over passengers fitness if its fit it wins easily in my opinion. So like you say why bother.

In the absence of a specific number that can be used in the rating I have to make an "executive decision" on what is the most sensible figure to use. I can't really favour using the SR number as it's a different scale to yours so I've given Sirona a rating of 106 which is based on it's SR number as a % of their top rated. It leaves it clear lowest rating in your numbers.
Ascot 2:25
# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 FRIENDLY SOUL 6 108.92 79.43 2 SOPRANO 4.5 104.04 26.97 3 JULIA AUGUSTA 51 101.42 107.22 4 SIRONA 6.5 101.18 11.42 5 DOOM 10 99.24   6 THORNBROOK 12 97.18   7 NAOMI LAPAGLIA 51 94.15   8 DEVOTED QUEEN 3.75 93.88   The value numbers are so-so here. We're basically flagging the rank outsider as best value with the shorter top rated the next best notion of a bet. Any more educated view on that interpretation would be welcome.

The zero rating represents "not worth rating for speed" because they just haven't achieved a half decent time, theoretically you could rate them same as the SR so Sirona would be 95 95. but certainly never equal or greater than Thornbrook.

# Ratings Horse Odds Rating Val 1 MC Tales Of The Heart 13 112.56 116.33 2 Zil Aviation Time 15 106.38 109.57 3 RW (R) Simmering 2.625 107.08 26.68 3a RW (V) Aviation Time 15 105.00 107.49 4 TS (R) Simmering 2.625 118.22 36.09 4a TS (V) Aviation Time 15 110.19 115.28 I'm not doing this for every race as it took too long (individually running everyone's ratings) but if we think it adds value I could maybe incorporate it into the template so it gets spat out automatically. This shows everyone's top rated and best value so for MC it's TOtH for both and for Zil it's AT. The other two both top rate the fav but have AT as best value. So if you only want to back one runner then maybe Aviation time is the clear consensus pick.

# Horse Odds Rating Val R1 R2 R3 1 Individualism 2.625 105.78 85.51 82 78 87 2 King Of The Plains (IRE) 4.333 104.17 101.81 81 74 89 3 Assail (IRE) 5 101.27 35.72 79 69 90 4 Dornoch Castle (IRE) 81 99.00   72 72 88 5 Miller Spirit (IRE) 6.5 98.22   80 65 86 6 Moel Arthur (USA) 19 97.46   75 67 87 7 Saratoga Gold 21 94.09   82 54 87 Keeping my hand in rating the 4:10 Ascot but not sure it was worth the bother given the NR situation. King Of The Plains the selection but no bet and no regrets on leaving this one alone. (So pile on now in the knowledge that it's a sure thing!)

# Ratings Horse Odds Rating Val 1 MC Tales Of The Heart 13 112.56 116.33 2 Zil Aviation Time 15 106.38 109.57 3 RW (R) Simmering 2.625 107.08 26.68 3a RW (V) Aviation Time 15 105.00 107.49 4 TS (R) Simmering 2.625 118.22 36.09 4a TS (V) Aviation Time 15 110.19 115.28 I'm not doing this for every race as it took too long (individually running everyone's ratings) but if we think it adds value I could maybe incorporate it into the template so it gets spat out automatically. This shows everyone's top rated and best value so for MC it's TOtH for both and for Zil it's AT. The other two both top rate the fav but have AT as best value. So if you only want to back one runner then maybe Aviation time is the clear consensus pick.

# Ratings Horse Odds Rating Val 1 MC Tales Of The Heart 13 112.56 116.33 2 Zil Aviation Time 15 106.38 109.57 3 RW (R) Simmering 2.625 107.08 26.68 3a RW (V) Aviation Time 15 105.00 107.49 4 TS (R) Simmering 2.625 118.22 36.09 4a TS (V) Aviation Time 15 110.19 115.28 I'm not doing this for every race as it took too long (individually running everyone's ratings) but if we think it adds value I could maybe incorporate it into the template so it gets spat out automatically. This shows everyone's top rated and best value so for MC it's TOtH for both and for Zil it's AT. The other two both top rate the fav but have AT as best value. So if you only want to back one runner then maybe Aviation time is the clear consensus pick.

Yes I'm loving the two value bets if the 8 runners holds 

Ascot 1:50 "Master Rating"
# Horse Odds Rating Val 1 Tales Of The Heart 13 107.31 106.73 2 Simmering 2.625 106.75 19.89 3 Aviation Time 15 106.52 109.78 4 Alice Fairfax 21 101.28 30.16 5 Betty Clover 17 99.65   6 Definitive 10 97.30   7 Mandurah 5.5 95.62   8 Handcuffed 6.5 85.56   Ok, here we go. 3 clear top rated, one the short priced favourite. The other 2 clearly flagged as the value in the race. Alice F edges Simmering out of the top 3 if you rank by MC and Z figures but not great on the value metric.
I prefer the best value horse in the race to have a "Val" number of 110+ but this is close enough to be worth a bet with similarly clear of the rest. Where the best value horse in the race comes in at no more than 105 on that metric it's telling you there's not that much value.
For the avoidance of doubt, this doesn't include my ratings, the "panel" is @MCLARKE @richard-westwood @Zilzalian and the RP Topspeed rating. 

I didn't know you worked in TV, what was Leonard Sachs like? (a joke for our younger members there).

I HAVE JUST DONE THE DASH CHEF @harry_rag @MCLARKE