moggis
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) well Jase,I certainly dont need recognition since Ive already had my picture on page 4 of the sun and have been featured in my local paper sevearal times and was even the front page story of the blackpool echo the day after they got promoted. I thought I had adequately explained why I posted: this whole thread is based on a "fact"that I know to be false. NOW,I am obviously different to some on here-when I have got something wrong I like to be told. Even if the person doesnt give me the whole explanation,I ,personally,would be grateful just to be told that an assumption I have made may well be false... ESPECIALLY,if it leads to more profitable gambling oportunities...
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) thank you Shy10ck,hope to see you in may!!
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) well trips,I will answer you since you posted just before me. if you read the thread,then you will see that your question has been well and truly answered. YES,that right,I place bets fully believing that they are poor value!! and,yes,I realise you are now certain that I am an idiot. as a matter of fact my next accas will be each-way. (interestingly enough,when I started doing antepost accas,I was doing them PURELY because 10 years ago there was superb value in the places well into the season-but the bookies got wise to this a few years back). whenever I place an antepost acca,I NEVER beleive it has the slightest chance of winning!! that not the reason why I place the bets!!!
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) look,this is a message to the mods.,I apologise for coming back to this subject and will now disappear again-unless a friend informs me that there have been comments accusing me of some ulterior motive. (or,that you guys have got a collection together totalling £250,000+with which to bet that I am wrong-whereupon we will find an agreed professor of gambling studies,I will explain to him(or her)how its done,he(or she)will confirm that I am right and we will all be happy!:cheers) until such time,there is obviously nothing to be gained from continuing this. Just for the record,I am hoping to bet £170,000 on antepost bets this season....and my target is a return of £500,000 +. to those of you who say its luck,well the thing is,if I dont get the £500,000,I am very much hoping that I dont actually lose my £170,000!!! I already have several excellent positions and believe that this is the easiest antepost season for the last 13 years(which is how long I have been doing these bets). good luck everyone with whatever bets you do... If I get the 500k I shall arrange a get-together for all posters on this thread:beer
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) YES,thats right-but thats only true of short-term bets/results. in antepost markets there IS a way of overcoming lack of value...and if I told you how its done you would kick yourself. I dont want to get banned from here so can I ask you a THEORETICAL question only? out of sheer curiosity,how much money would you actually bet that I am wrong if the judge was a recognised professor of gambling studies?
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) I must admit I had to smile when I read that..as I am not sure what you mean. Are you referring to me-since I am the one who is making claims? If so,the reason I dont proof my bets on here is because I have no interest in proving that I win doing these bets. I merely have an interest in pointing out that: you can make long-term profits on antepost markets without either being lucky OR any of your bets being VALUE. NOW,the problem is this-people are so certain that bets must be value,that even if I gave you all my bets for the rest of this season.......and I made 100%profit,people on here would say that either it was luck OR the bets must have been value!!!
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) Belux,I think you may need to elaborate? as your question stands,however,let me point out that I dont see how anyone would have examples of "value-betting using this system/strategy"since anyone betting on antepost markets looking for value would have a very hard time indeed doing anything other than singles!!!! at any one time on antepost markets(especially once the season is underway)there are probably only 4 or 5 value bets to be had.......and its very very unlikely that any individual would be able to identify all of them! even if they could,1 or 2 of these bets would be outsiders and so the actual acca that they do wouldnt even come close to winning. THE WHOLE POINT of my system/strategy is to overcome the chronic lack of value in antepost markets while taking advantage of the one big weakness that bookies have in such markets!!! good luck
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) but NOT with long-term bets!!
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) unfortunately,Barry,mentioning big wins merely reinforces the belief that it could be luck....and you know youre telling the truth..and I know....but they dont...anyway lets not forget that its the question of whether or not my bets need to be value that matters....and they will never beleive that unless I spell it out to them....
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) ha,ha,ha...I have just seen barrys post and I think he would agree that,apart from our ages...we couldnt be more different......
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) let me make something abundantly clear,THE ONLY REASON I posted on this thread is because people were claiming AS A FACT that the only way you can make long term profits is from value-betting...and I make a living from proving this to be false. NOW,I dont give a damn whether you believe I am a successful gambler or not-I am laughing all the way to the bradford and bingley(which may no longer exist). NOW,if you wish to disbelieve me,that is not only fine,its totally understandable! but if you make the kind of comments that you have been making then be assured that within a year from now,there will be a significant number of people who know what I do and how its done-NONE OF WHICH will be members of "the worlds best betting forum" adios
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) to scotty Apparently on "the worlds best betting forum" people like you-who I assume are NOT a pro gambler(apologies if u r),are allowed to write such things without putting money on it. I f you wish to profit from your wonderful expertise,may I therefore suggest that you send me a pm...and we will come to a private arrangement...?
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) to ofcourseitwas.......... YES you are wrong!
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a couple of days ago I received a PM from a member on this site requesting that I give him details of my antepost acca bets. from something he wrote,I became curious as to the content of the last few messages on this thread,.......so I have just read them for the first time... and....OMG..........I am considering whether you are even worth replying to.......for now..may I ask the mathematician the following: do you live in london?-if so I would very much like to meet you for a drink and to discuss this. So far as w hill taking bets from a big winner is concerned.....let me point out that only coral and bet365 take most of my bets....and even they restrict me from february onwards. APPARENTLY,it is babyish of me to ask any of you to put your money where your mouth is-even on the "best betting forum"(see the thread thats locked). how very,very convenient for you all! AS A MATTER OF FACT,my target for this season is now 200% profit-although I am the first to admit that its only a 50/50 chance that I will get this....
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Re: Strategy that works ALSO,anyone reading ALL my posts can very easily see who i am!!!!!
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Re: Strategy that works thank you for letting me know-you have saved me the trouble of finding out. dont know why i would continue to make such threats since you have told me they wouldnt matter!? now would you care to tell me if you think its ok for someone to apparently accuse me of lying without any evidence whatsoever!!!!!???? if that kind of behaviour is condoned on this site then BELIEVE ME you wont have to ban me-i wouldnt want to be here. in any case the only reason I AM STILL HERE is because i am waiting for a bet. i would much,much rather someone bet me than anything else.
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Re: Strategy that works and bedlam,i am not TOO sure of the law on libel but either you have money or you dont. if you do,then i would be very careful about any future comment about anything i have said
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Re: Strategy that works i repeat,how much would you be prepared to bet that what i have said is not true? i assume from your latest comment that you are CERTAIN,therefore i expect a big bet. i may as well throw this out to any other member of this site. HOW MUCH?
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Re: Strategy that works bedlam,since this is a betting site,may i enquire as to how much you would like to bet that what i have said is not true?
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) ok lets wrap this up. i am extremely pleased that none of you believe me. i am very much aware of how incredibly fortunate i am that i am able to make a living betting on a market that intelligent,clued up people like yourselves tend to ignore(apart from when you believe you have found a value bet,which,as i have said,is not often). it AMAZES me that there appears to be nothing on the internet about how to do these bets. JASE 82 i am inclined to think that your comment was uncalled for unless it was based on your belief that it is obviously impossible to profit without doing value bets. datapunter,it is posts like yours that made me post on this thread in the first place!! thank you for the lesson.just for the record,it took me several years to work out how EXACTLY i was able to profit form these bets and the reason it took so long is because i,of course,also was certain that i had to somehow be finding value. western skies,i have spent a great deal of time reading threads on this excellent site and i have made several posts.since antepost accas are my bread and butter and since i have been advised not to tell you how its done,i doubt that i will have much more to say. also i am now going to read all the other forums i can find,thats really why i am effectively leaving. NB i need to point out that it is only the sheer amount of my winnings that i state could be luck.at the beginning of may 2004 i had only £2000 to my name,since then £1,500,000 has passed through my bank account.i have absolutely NO DOUBT AT ALL that the strategy works like a dream.this season it is almost certain because of this strategy,that i will be in a position on the last day of the season to either win a 6 figure some OR lose perhaps £20,000(on the other hand i may well have guaranteed a profit!) it is only the events on this last day that will decide the final amount i win or lose. but the strategy will get me there... i can only repeat that i never intended to turn this into a guessing game about strategy, i only needed to provide examples that demonstrate how it could be done. i had already stated that it was possible to make profits without having placed any bets that were value SO i felt i had to explain that as best i could in the circumstances. and,finally,drawsandmore,i would have been most interested to see your reply. yes i am well aware that i have not substantiated my lack of value theory. as i have indicated,it is probably much,much better for me that i havnt. i am impressed that you use the word skeptic rather than claim that it is a fact that i am wrong.
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) looks like the only other point is the 50-1 or 1/50 question. right i think i get the point. you are effectively asking a hypothetical question...so the hypothetical answer is no it wouldnt matter in certain circumstances. :unsure
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) point taken.but let me try to defend myself a bit.... actually first i would be grateful if you could let me know what exactly is unsubstantiated? is there anything in particular you would like me to substantiate(if thats a word?) what happened was that i saw one or more people state as a FACT that its impossible to profit in the long term without betting value. i intended to give an example that would prove this to be false. i emailed a friend of mine who also works in the industry in order to check with him that my example did in fact demonstrate that i was right and to go through what questions i would be asked. my friend was subsequently convinced that i was right...BUT advised me not to give the example to you. i took his advice but then i had the problem of having started something that i cant use a clear example to finish. thank you for your input and i apologise for annoying you. i will now reread your post to see if there was anything else,and then,assuming you do not wish for me to substantiate anything i will say goodbye all and good luck with all your bets.
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Re: Strategy that works it was my opinion that if it became common knowledge it wouldnt matter. but i discussed it with a good friend who works in the industry(for a bookies) and it was his opinion that i shouldnt reveal too much
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Re: Strategy that works the short answer to your first question is that i was advised not to
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Re: How to beat the bookies – a value betting guide (inc. spreadsheet) ALSO,I now post on other betting forums..and have not revealed to them that I am a big winner...