LeMale

It's all gone a bit Reservoir Dogs now! Genuinely confused by that post in as much as I'm not sure if you're suggesting you've seen a post along those lines (that accas are "always better than singles") or if you think that the active discussion that has taken place in terms of the merits of the occasional L15 is propaganda along those lines. (Which would suggest myself, @MCLARKE or @Zilzalian as the rat!)
Personally, I think if someone came on here as a "shill" for the bookies and started to actively try and direct traffic in a certain direction it would stand out like a sore thumb and their ideas would get taken apart with logic if they made spurious claims. They'd also probably be saying "stop all this sports betting nonsense and follow my surefire roulette system"!
They may well be watching us but I'm not sure they walk among us to any great extent. (Would be great if anyone who happens to work for a bookie said "hi".)
Personally I don't disagree with much of what has been said but I think most of us are fine with regard to most of our activity here. I'd say heed the cautions and get on with normal business without getting too hung up on it.
(Though I'm always slightly wary of anyone who joins, follows me but never posts or interacts!)
 

Information is power, any information. PL is what it is a forum but do you really believe that lets say for the sake of argument that if just 10 365 customers all copied @MCLARKE Cheltenham bet (totalled to about 14K) you would be naive in the extreme if you believe for one moment the bookies couldn't join the dots? They have all your details and all your IP addresses and they all have links on here (even the word bookie) just try to open a second account and see what happens. The bookies will accept loses to a degree even to a few grand off individuals now and again, what they wont tolerate is what they would consider a "gang" Have non of you heard about their pyramid system that they (all the bookies) participate in? all i am saying and have previously warned about is be careful if you don't want to lose your accounts for what its worth i think BET365 is the best and most tolerant of all the bookies on or off line. lastly put yourself in their shoes when would you get worried?
The bigger conversation should be - a concerted effort to get the government to declare it illegal for any bookies to close down accounts without seriously good reason especially ordinary small stakes Joe Punter accounts.
look at all the highlighted text in this one message.....

It's also not hard to imagine bookies actually using this site either. After all, nobody knows who anybody else is do they. Taking that idea a stage further, they may use the site to spread to propagate ideas that suit them - for example, how accas are always better than singles.

Might as well close punters lounge down if we are scared of bookmakers reading how bets and systems we put up and open up WhatsApp and telegram accounts 

It's not going to be much of a forum !

I think the real issue is that the online bookmakers don’t operate as a traditional bookmaker should.
The result of a race should be immaterial - their profit should be locked in by the over round and balancing their book. I’m not sure that actually takes place anymore - if 1 cuts a price the others all follow. If you look first thing in the morning this can be driven by changes in the exchange even though the total on the market at that point can even be 3 figures and definitely less than 10k which is nowt in the grand scheme.
Every single customer is profiled and if you are profitable they will limit you or close your account. On top of that you have obvious data sharing going on possibly between companies not even in the same group.
But they will also be profiling bet types as well. So whether it is the comments on this site or simply data crunching determining they can’t make money offering the bonuses - the result is the same.  If they think the “customer” has an edge they will shut it down and simply add offerings that they can control like the fruit machines, virtual racing, shots on target etc …
 

Must have been reading my analysis of bookies' profit margins from those bonuses yesterday! 

Email from skybet this morning saying they are dropping all bonuses on lucky15, 31 and 63. Both single winner and all correct bonuses.  

1810 RA - Brave Nation @ 80-1 ew Bet365 

5.30 NM Dereham 1 pt win at 9/1 with Bet365

3.55 Newcastle 
Mr Strutter @ 25/1 Bet365 

4.10 Nottingham saisons d’or 18/1 e/w bet365 

8.15 Leicester - Expert Witness = E.Way 25/1 Betvictor 

Hafeet Alain
16.55 Newmarket
14/1 William Hill
Each way

1555 N - Nazca @ 50-1 Bet365 

NR,please sub:
Two Brothers 1620 hrs Car
7/1 Cor
Many thanks.

6.20 Kempton - Between Me And U = E.way 80/1 Bet365

8.50 Kempton
Tying The Knot
28/1 ew Bet365

Sorry Harry , I ended up out on the piss all day/night Friday and it completely threw me off course for the next few days. 
 
Thank you for the time and effort and well done the winner. 

5.05 Windsor Arlecchino's Gift 10/1 b365
All the best.

😂😂

Well done @roy keane for winning and others in the money. Yet another big thank you to @MCLARKE for all his hard work in running yet another great comp. 

Cheers Harry thank you for doing table well done everyone for taken part 👍👍

All a good bit of fun Harry, and not too expensive at 15 quid for the week for the blank, spent worse in my time as have most of us. @kroni did well bit back from 5 days from 5 no blanks, @LeMale cracking effort, tho needs a hefty slap for a day 3 blank. 🤣overall this years Ascot was hard work for most of the punters to be honest, bookies did very well i imagine. Very impressed that 18 took part i thought we would get about half a dozen ish.