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29 minutes ago, Valiant Thor said:
And now you have a boat and 50,000 euro .
I bet youve had a threesome with Bo Derek and Christie Brinkley as well
No,but unlike yourself I have met Bo Derek.The above refers to fact and documented...........the 50k was only a partial collection in cash from the 2014 Festival,most came in other forms e.g gold,no drugs and from Cyprus.
All documented at the time,challenges before and since so what exactly do you require? My credibility of helping punters or just curiosity and a desire to discredit me?
Do you not trust a decade plus of documented fact or the response of the Racing Post?
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Shame that the fav beat us their but nothing lost other than the tag.Could have been a cracker almost on a par with Gee Armitage on Gee A at the 1987 Festival?
e.g "Bent Jockey who does'nt accept bribes wins on Bogardus" Trainer states "He might be bent but he is as straight as they come,he is no Kieren Fallon"!!! Or is it Fellon?
Had he finished out of the frame it would have Boogered Us,we had a few quid on!!!!
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So that is two penalty kicks converted if you like,depends on your persuation I suppose but a little humour never killed anybody as far as I know?
Having said that I have confessed to being Homophobic and always will be,it is what Democracy is about.Nobody can steal your thoughts unless you verbally or otherwise transmit them e.g writing on a Forum.
Regrdless my Homophobia does not extend to ridicule or prejudice and Joey Haynes is as capable as any other jockey out their male or female,whichever weighing room he chooses.he rides for Mr Holmes in the next and it does not take a genius to work out his mounts chance.
Bogardus has solid form and should he run near has a great chance to win,looks solid Each Way if you pardon the pun and great fun for the hacks if they have enough guts to tag the jockey and horse.
11/2 for ew players!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11 minutes ago, Glentoby said:
The horse he was beaten by runs in the next,HUMBERT and I know now they rate this horse quite highly and were shocked he was run so close.Running straight and to form he has loads in hand for the forecast Ivan Furtado's should run better than lto.
Well if you believe in coincidence of fate then you would have had the forecast (£3 aftertiming I know and no credit claimed as had Humbert with the field).How many Poets can one horse beat in consecutive races though? LOL
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On 1/25/2018 at 9:52 PM, Glentoby said:
Sorry for the late post,had meant to post this as a topic earlier,however got sidetracked and was typing another topic when suddenly realised.
The intrigue is this,the horse was owned by Hamdan Al Maktoum until the 1st of November last year,his last run in this ownership was over 5f on the 21st of October at Catterick ridden by tonights jockey.
He was gelded on the 7th of November last year and apparently had no known owner from the 1st of November to the 3rd of January,a couple of weeks ago..So who owned him when he had the chop and who's decision was this? His present owners are registered from 3rd of January,his first run was over 8f at Southwell on the 9th of January where he weakened quickly.
His next run was 6 days later at Wolverhampton over 8.5 f,strange given how quickly he weakened at Southwell even given the different surface.I was advised by Molerat to have a dabble on him for the Wolves race,he said he knew the trip would not be an issue.
i backed the horse based on his opinion at 14/1,20s + was available before I backed him.Opened at 20s on course and returned sp of 10/1.Was beaten by a head by one of Hugo Palmers,5/4 fav who drifted from slight odds on.I collected on the ew even though only 2 places as Molerat suggested only the fav was a danger.
He will not explain why he was so confident but the money spoke volumes that the 8.5 f was not expected to be an issue despite prior to gelding had been purely a sprinter.The drop to 7f tonight seemed to make sense and was born out as he actually seemed to outstay his rivals.
He never left the MJ stable during the period mentioned i.e "Owner unknown" and gelding and finding new owners on the 3rd of January a few weeks ago.Is it purely coincidence or perhaps an inspired guess that his new owners upped him to a mile on a stamina sapping surface and then upped him again at Wolves where he was punted heavily and beaten a head?
Or had he been worked at home following his Noble Locks op and shown up well over further than 5f or 6f? This is an absolute certainty otherwise Molerat would not have known to tell me to back him.At the risk of upsetting Molerat I would like to know who owned him following Hamdan getting rid and was gelding a condition of the sale?
What chance the average punter with only form in the book to go by? Not suggesting any misdemeanours but valid concerns just the same.
What do you think?
The horse he was beaten by runs in the next,HUMBERT and I know now they rate this horse quite highly and were shocked he was run so close.Running straight and to form he has loads in hand for the forecast Ivan Furtado's should run better than lto.
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On 2/2/2018 at 8:18 AM, Valiant Thor said:
You seem to be very short in the maths department.
Books would not go broke if several punters have winning systems,as they simply pay out from the multitude of losers and FOTB players, any idiot could see that except you it seems.
You have as you have stated the "ONLY" winning system "EVER"
So whats your problem.
1) You've wasted 20yrs of your life looking for a system that works (yep)
2) You've either done your dough following a system (likely)
3) Done your dough following a tipster (very likely , as you seem to keep mentioning Brimardon)
4) Are fishing for some one to give you a system that works.(highly likely)
5) Your a shyster looking for fish to hook into your scam (time will tell)
As for turning down £560k or whatever for a system
stroll on
You'll be telling us the earths flat next and you've got the only copy of the Piri Reis map up for grabs @ a cool £2 mill so you can purchase your holiday home on Hy-Brasil
Problem Valiant? Where do you get that impression,1 to 5 of your assertions equal negative and in case you missed plenty of pointers,easy to check my track record.You mention Brimardon and if you had bothered to do any research would know my efforts to expose them as a scam on behalf of others i.e They have threatened me with Court Action etc.
My documented response was to send them photographs variously depicting my boat in Cagliari,the Town Hall with the National Flag draped and 50,000 euros in cash on the table of the boat in the lounge.2014,the partial winnings from the Festival.Just to prove that they are liars and losers and scammers.
You can either follow this up on the Betfair Forum or telephone Brian (Brynn) at Brimardon and ask if it is truth or fiction or accept that facts are facts when documented for posterity.The photographs sent to them were taken on a disposable camera and developed in the UK just to ensure there was no accusation of manipulation.
Strangely I have not heard a peep about suing me from their Lawyers since,whilst you are on the phone you could ask why they ditched a lot of computers before and after receipt of the photos and ask if Brian (Bryn) is still on BF drinking a bottle of Scotch in the early hours threatening legal action?
You can add Tom Segal to the list if you wish or more pertinently "Pricewise". As you have made such an effort to discredit me,may I be so cheeky as to ask about your own "Pedigree"?
TIA
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Just a pointer to the next at Kempton,Bungee Jump covered 7f in a Claimer 6 ish seconds faster than The British Lion did lto,different courses,different characteristics but 6 seconds is a huge margin.Similar prices.
£20 win Bungee Jump
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Strange you have not commented on "Systems" thread Caan or commented on "Glentoby's" record on Betfair?
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All I can say Billy is what I said on my first post,here to support you and all the forum users.If I post anything controversial,I guarantee there is an issue to be addressed.
Whether it be about gambling or an issue within a stable about working conditions my sole aim is to help.I will never attack or attempt to discredit a forum user.I will consider every and all opinions before making a reply.
The experience I have within the industries of betting and the wider industry of horse racing is not unique,they are inextricable bedfellows.My knowledge of LAW combined however is not commonly applied.
In short,I am here to help ALL punters and anyone else on the Forum.Guaranteed to provide a profit for anyone following any information long term.Never let anyone down over 2 decades and do not intend to start now.
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10 hours ago, Valiant Thor said:
With the punters who keep them to themselves and make money................. SIMPLES !
That would be fine if the layers had infinite funds Valiant and a penchant for laying bets as a perverse pastime.Perhaps they have relaxed the rules in secure mental health units for retired bookies with a few £million they want to play with?
It is obviously an issue that few wish to engage in e.g those involved in the "Systems" threads or the purveyors of such elsewhere?
Your answer basically answers the question "Tell us of a system that actually works long term"? And bearing in mind the statements I have already made,name a Bookmaker who accepts your bets that actually show a profit? Applying this to ALL here and on every site related to betting?
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Just to prove there is something smelly,particularly in terms of Betfair.
Placed several bets a short while ago and all had a distinct smell,this one is about average.
0116 Hrs Penn National
Bets........£30 win No2 Smokin Plan 7/4 won returned £52.50 profit with bet 365
£35 win with Betfair
Placed in running lays of £33 at 1.31 £12 at 1.21 £12 at 1.12 and £112 at 1.01 to lose £15.31 before the race.
The horse won so no worries? Wrong BF took £2.09 commission on the winnings,no big deal I hear you say,you won so why moan?
Digest this,all bets win and inruning lays placed ages before the race.
Bet365 Live feed showed race OFF at 0127 hrs finished at 0129 hrs give or take many seconds as I was busy with several devices.
On Betfairs "Live feed" the race started at 0134 and 22 seconds and finished at 0136 and 14 seconds.Work out the annomaly for yourself............it was a 6f race on dirt.
The point is I watched this race twice supposedly on live feed,the race and bets were settled before Betfairs "live feed" had even started? They were offering a betting in running race which according to their "live feed" would not start for five minutes if the on course announcer was correct.
NINE minutes to run a 6 furlong race? My computer is pretty slow but not that slow.
City Of London Police already alerted in terms of Betfair and this annomaly,any further experiences will be treated with anon status and a reference to report any suspicions anyone may have per above.
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To cut a long saga short,do you use Betfair In Running on United States racing?
If you do have you noticed any annomalies and reported them to BF?
Can you contact them via email for any issues?
Did they explain their "live feed" is supplied by a 3rd party and not their responsibility despite them accepting "In running bets"?
Did they offer to credit your account with a free bet credit as an apology?
Have you used their exchange to bet on US live racing?
Have you noticed that "In running bets are settled before their live feeds have even started"? e.g You have had a bet on a "Live race" but the race has not even started on their feed despite already being finished on other bookmakers "live video"?
Anything related please post on here,even if you only know someone and not experienced it yourself.Indeed antything to do with your online experiences where a Bookmaker has fobbed you off with an apology or offer of a credit to your account to explain a delay in their live feed or casino.Win or lose or both.
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13 hours ago, Valiant Thor said:
Or maybe they have to return to being real bookmakers again .
Another "interesting fact" of the bookmakers I am restricted from, ALL send me emails on their offers for their casino's which they deem fit not to exclude me from, Unfortunately for them I will not be taking them up on their "generous" offers.
Incredibly Thor is 100% correct,i have incontrevertible evidence that certain bookmakers fulfil their obligations on irresponsible gambling by restricting accounts on sports e.g Horse racing and then bombard these same account holders emails with "Casino Offers".
Includes William Hill and even Bet365.....The self acclaimed worlds biggest bookmaker.
Beware they will offer you a matched £x or a free £x and buried in there is you have to gamble your original stake,minimum 20x to withdraw any winnings including getting your own stake returned.
e.g £200 matched..............cost £4,000 to get it back unless you change your mind about the bonus.....e.g You may be £3,000 up after a few hands of Blackjack or spins.Unless you replay this to their specs YOU LOSE including your stake.
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Only a few ever refered to me back in the day as GT? You did billy,so where from?
Just intrigued that so far only you that has acknowledged the past and to assure you you are doing a great job on here and have my full support.Not to forget to mention your passion for both the site and punters.
I don't have a huge amount of time but would you consider a "Problem page" as a stand alone where a few forumites can try and help punters with questions as a good idea?
Kind Regards
GT
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On 1/30/2018 at 6:14 PM, Alastair said:
The question is if a system were proven to be profitable would it not be the case that the shrewder punters might latch on as well as the mugs ? In which case the system I describe might come to pass. To be fair I think it is impossible to prove this either way because has there ever been a profitable system that has entered the public domain ? I put up a system regarding the Grand National but I don't think anyone has passed comment - either it is rubbish or everyone is keeping it quiet for themselves !
Fantastic response if you add all the elements together,proves beyond doubt that some punters are still out there believing there is a pot of gold to be had others, with doubts but strangely a few who will not accept there is no "Pot of gold"
My original post concerned "systems"??? Pointed out none have or did work over the long term? Pertinent 300+ years ago and more so now.Everything about long term gambling to profit outside of scams or fraud is purely mathematical e.g A Bookie put his brains on his board with a theoretical "Book" of over 100%.
Punter A to Z went and put his bets on with the bookie,each time the bookie took a bet he would adjust his odds to reflect how much his liabilities were on each horse in the race and balance the books accordingly.Comparing liabilty against possible profit.
i.e Doing his sums right should guarantee a profit regardless of which horse won? Mostly the case even now but the expenses of these bookies since the advent of no tax off course,exorbitant expenses to even attend a race course have meant the depletion of the original animal.
The original "Bookies" in racing would take a bet based on their own opinion of a horses chance against that of the original punter.Then came along Off Course Licenced betting shops,credit card and debit card betting.Faceless betting,then Exchanges.Now exchanges allow bookmakers to have accounts cheaper than punters.
So without delving any deeper where are the systems that work long term in 2018 that have failed for centuries before all these changes which in effect make most Bookies accountants?
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59 minutes ago, Saint R said:
I don't think anyone would discount your system but without context you do come across as as overconfident and dismissive of others research. If you scroll to the top of the page it tells you the profits of Billys ratings system and I'm certain he puts more than a few hours in per day,then you have the forum where there is posters putting their own selections up and on the whole they are successful,they have their own systems too.
Over the last 6/7 months I've been backing the selections, I'm a little in front which given the poor start(change from flat racing to jumps) then the indifferent winter we've had it's a good result. As someone said earlier,it's not just the money it's the enjoyment of watching and also learning.
I'm damn sure if you started your own thread using your system and putting your selections for the day everyone would take an interest,I certainly would.
Whatever you choose to do good luck and good luck to the SSAFA
Hi Saint R,I should probably put more thought into the thread before making such a sweeping statement,however the basic statement still stands in that for centuries there have been "systems" claimed to make a profit out of betting.None has stood the test of time and some of the finest mathematical and analytical minds have proven that even the best have a finite life.
i.e Even the best mathematical systems will run out of possibilities as will the users run out of funds or benefactors to accommodate their desires for long term profit.
An old telegram should cast some light on what I am saying "Dear all,system working well,please send more money"!!!
My method only applies to horse racing and does not involve making a selection in a single race therefore negating putting up a selection.I have and do put up horses to back or lay which have nothing to do with any method or system,sometimes involving information not available to the general public..At all times I strive to give a reasoned or researched precis for posting a bet.Such I hope will be obvious in all other posts I have made since returning to this Forum.
On leaving the Racecaller site I had won many tipping "badges" on their competitions but the reality is that they required a selection daily or for the Festival challenges a minumum of 20 selections over the period.Overall outside of the Festival games I posted a massive loss as did every entrant.It is almost impossible to generate a profit in the circumstances imposed by a competition based on daily horse racing.
You have to be selective and patient and of course knowledgeable to stand a chance of profiting on gambling on horse racing.That is why I left with several badges for finishing in the top ten or winning their Festival competitions and top 50 for their annual awards out of more than 4,000 others.Same applies to the old Racing Post compies
The point I am making is that whilst enjoying a competition the underlying reason for posting any bet is for me a means solely to help fellow punters and not an ego trip or an attempt to win a fan base,as made clear on my first post for years,just over a month ago..
This particular thread was to try and generate some debate and at the same time to try and engage Forum users in using the the site as more than a betting platform.
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On 1/27/2018 at 8:45 AM, BillyHills said:
With respect GT, i hardly ever post anything without substance or experience, a former job of odds compiler at a well known bookie allows me to state 'they' do work on a margin and have to alter the prices pretty quickly early on. I didn't say it cost them much as they can limit/refuse any bet as you know, In the trade these are classed as 'errors'.
GT Billy,is that a case of recognition? I hope so because there have been many attempts to undermine and even discredit my attempts to expose wrongdoing.
So far no direct challenge from some of the biggest concerns,they know they will lose,happy to lay any of them 100/1 + to take me on.
Recent challenges about dubious behaviour include Betfair,William Hills and Stan James. They may think I have given up,they are wrong.Solely compiling evidence.Coming back onto a Forum using my username is obviously a risk in giving the wrongdoers more detail of who I might be but considered long and hard before doing so.
I don't care as they dare not tackle me using my details they retain on accounts unless they want to do so in an open court,other than that they would be in breach of Data Protection Laws.
Don't let us get into conflict,I want to contribute not undermine the site.After all it is all about punters is it not?
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On 1/25/2018 at 9:52 PM, Glentoby said:
Sorry for the late post,had meant to post this as a topic earlier,however got sidetracked and was typing another topic when suddenly realised.
The intrigue is this,the horse was owned by Hamdan Al Maktoum until the 1st of November last year,his last run in this ownership was over 5f on the 21st of October at Catterick ridden by tonights jockey.
He was gelded on the 7th of November last year and apparently had no known owner from the 1st of November to the 3rd of January,a couple of weeks ago..So who owned him when he had the chop and who's decision was this? His present owners are registered from 3rd of January,his first run was over 8f at Southwell on the 9th of January where he weakened quickly.
His next run was 6 days later at Wolverhampton over 8.5 f,strange given how quickly he weakened at Southwell even given the different surface.I was advised by Molerat to have a dabble on him for the Wolves race,he said he knew the trip would not be an issue.
i backed the horse based on his opinion at 14/1,20s + was available before I backed him.Opened at 20s on course and returned sp of 10/1.Was beaten by a head by one of Hugo Palmers,5/4 fav who drifted from slight odds on.I collected on the ew even though only 2 places as Molerat suggested only the fav was a danger.
He will not explain why he was so confident but the money spoke volumes that the 8.5 f was not expected to be an issue despite prior to gelding had been purely a sprinter.The drop to 7f tonight seemed to make sense and was born out as he actually seemed to outstay his rivals.
He never left the MJ stable during the period mentioned i.e "Owner unknown" and gelding and finding new owners on the 3rd of January a few weeks ago.Is it purely coincidence or perhaps an inspired guess that his new owners upped him to a mile on a stamina sapping surface and then upped him again at Wolves where he was punted heavily and beaten a head?
Or had he been worked at home following his Noble Locks op and shown up well over further than 5f or 6f? This is an absolute certainty otherwise Molerat would not have known to tell me to back him.At the risk of upsetting Molerat I would like to know who owned him following Hamdan getting rid and was gelding a condition of the sale?
What chance the average punter with only form in the book to go by? Not suggesting any misdemeanours but valid concerns just the same.
What do you think?
Not in the same league in terms of Molerats enthusiasm for a punt but noteworthy nonetheless.He is what used to be termed as a "Store horse" i.e bought relatively young and judged over a period of time as to whether worth keeping or should he be culled or passed on.He is now 5 years old and housed with Venetia Williams who is not known for precocious horses,he is owned by Trevor Hemmings.
Like Venetia he has a lot of patience and a long term view for potential and would not have kept this horse for fun.As molerats earlier email made clear this horse is a future chaser,probably next year.However he said that the horse will come on a bundle from his run in a Bumper just before Christmas.
This was his first run of any description on a licenced racecourse and he is not going to improve through experience or fitness because of it,he is fitter now because of his work has been upped a notch.
He has always shown ability,hence why he was so short in the beting for his debut.However he was only gelded last year,in August so nobody really knew if it had affected him either positively or otherwise..
Molerat reports that he has plenty of ability and his gelding op has had a positive effect on his temperament and has improved his fluency jumping schooling hurdles,at least that is his opinion.As stated his future is over fences and tomorrow is part of that progression,1st time over hurdles in public on a racecourse.
He does state that he is one of the best "Novices" he has seen for quite some time and really likes his prospects in the future.His handlers feel the same and whilst not going overboard about his chances of winning on his hurdles debut they think that 14/1 is far too big and those laying do not know the horse as well as they do.
As molerat states "As wth all Venetia's horses he will be doing his best,Charlie knows him well and wont knock him about,but expect him to up among the front end and if he can win he WILL" At the least he will ride him out for a place.
Given that, for me I have gone £10 ew on Cloudy Glen at 14s BOG
Good Luck if you have a dabble.
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On 1/27/2018 at 8:14 AM, Saint R said:
600k is quite alot of money to me at this moment in time but if you wish I will do a deal with you?
I have in my possession a small amount of,let's say magic beans. To cut a long story short the family farm fortunes dwindled and mother decided to send me to market with our last tangible asset..a cow.Now me being bone idle I decided not to do the yardage around said market and instead decided to exchange the cow with the first stall holder I met for the beans which he promised me would bring our family untold fortunes.
Now our family being skint an all we have had to downgrade our family home to a two bedroom terrace with just a small buffer garden,hence not having any garden space to grow the bloody things.
I'll give you a few days to deliberate,you spill the beans with your secret system and I'll send you my beans first class to you in cloud cuckoo land.
Thanks in advance,
Jack.
Fair comment and entirely expected.Most seem to have missed the point though of my main assertion i.e Systems do not work and if they did there would be NO BOOKIES?
My method took the best part of 2 decades and as explained would be completely useless in 2018 if released as a "system",it would work for a short period only to be "Cut off at the pass" when the layers got wind.Only works on horseracing in UK or Ireland and only proved in the UK longterm.
Reason being the only two countries with the style of Bookies who fit the bill,even though including the Gibralter based or otherwise big concerns..
£600k may indeed sound like a large sum and refusing because of a £40k shortfall sounds crazy.All granted the sceptics may wonder if it actually works and why did I not sell? Several reasons,some of which already addressed e.g once in the hands of another would become useless if distributed as layers would take steps to negate the backers getting on.
The £600k figure I put on the method was simply mathematical in terms of how much money would make a difference to SSAFA and to give a realistic chance of the purchaser to recoup the outlay and a fair profit.It is uncomplicated,even simple but requires patience and dedication and most importantly TIME,personal time.
This could involve as little as minutes per day to 12 hours per day,to share the burden would probably mean at least one other.You would have to trust the "other" implicitly not to divulge the method otherwise it would soon fail when the payers got wind and took evasive action.
It may require many,many "soldiers" to realise the profit expected to recoup the £600k outlay and not impossible over a year and no need to divulge what was going on.However if only one rogue individual worked out the method the outlay would become a liability and therefore that individual.
My reason for starting this thread was simply to make the point "No systems work long term",if they did there would be no layers?
So why persist with thousands of posts attached to these threads? Not about selling my method,which if it did sell would be to the highest bidder to benefit SSAFA as a one off and completely useless if divulged to a third party. as explained.Unlikely to affect anyone on here and unlikely to interest anyone outside of curiosity or a view to massive profits by selling it to punters at a large premium in the full knowledge that in short time it would be worthless.
As stated,proofed in terms of success,proved via 4 BF forumites completely picked at random.Protected by Copyright and other non disclosure terms.Well enough discussed and dismantled etc on BF.
Instigated mainly to disprove the lies and claims of tipping services,the distortion of the criminal law and consumer laws that allow certain individuals to continue to steal money from desperate or naive punters who seek a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Nobody has yet challenged me in a Law Court to prove my method and disprove their fraudulent claims as a result.I can and will if anyone fancies a go?
Anyone doubts my credentials to tackle an issue about being ripped off in betting related issues,feel free to let me know and I will do my utmost to help.
I cannot promise a positive result but feel free to ask the Racing Post,BF Forum,former members of RUK or even Brimardon about my tenacity to put things right.
Ask Brimardon about the photos they received from me from Sardegna?
I am on your side 100%.
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Gone quiet all? Checking up or chewing the cud?
At least it has sparked a debate and a response sadly lacking otherwise.When you have checked and confirmed the authenticity of what I have said please feel free to continue the conversation?
if any doubt feel free to ring Brimardon or any other tipping organisation ripping you off with false claims,include if you must the Racing Post.I can guarantee here and now or any Court of Law,most of them are aware of the fact that not only are my claims true and valid but that I will expose those trying to fraudulently extract the hard earned or otherwise gained CASH from a punters pocket!!!!
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19 minutes ago, Valiant Thor said:
Cant wait for the "just send me your email" punchline.
As for your systems dont work you obviously never came across the one printed in the Sporting Chronicle in 1948.
My grandad called it his beer money system,my father also used it for extra cash .
I used it myself for spending money until over several years built up my stake gradually until it can be used for a second income.(its got a bit more difficult the past year as Im now restricted from all bar Sky bet and Hills) but thats life.
It amuses me when "experts" such as yourself tell me systems dont work .
Yet you just happen to have the one that does "lordy lordy its a miracle'
But then Im not trying to educate punters (I think they're big enough to make up there own minds)
ATB with your 600k system
(mine cost my grandad 6d I think, well thats inflation for you)
Still subscribing to Brimardon then? My £560k offer "Might have come from a similar source"
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With respect Billy they do not get it wrong quite a lot,in fact rarely make a rick.If they did they would be out of business rather quicker than an average pimp whos best girl comes down with a dose of STD and I don't mean STD falling off a 1/10 shot after the final hurdle.
I ill not be surprised at any shortening or
5 minutes ago, corky said:As far as I am aware I personally own the only method which will produce a long term profit,not a "system" as popularly refered to and devised after 2 decades + of research.My sole motivation for posting on any racing or betting forum is to give the average punter an edge.No more,no less.
ive enjoyed reading your posts since you came one here earlier this month, but to put a bold statement that you "own"a method that profits long term, and you want to give the average punter the edge, i have to ask, (sorry) prove it
I can only prove that I own it Corky and cannot show it in practice for obvious reasons.However proved and proofed several years ago by 4 betfair forumites.Protected by Copyright and other non disclosure agreements.All documented and recorded on that Forum including the negotiations of sale and the potential purchasers and price.
Whether or not you are privvy to access I am sure others will confirm this,I do not tell lies!!
As made clear at the time,it is not for sale other than the figure mentioned to benefit SSAFA,so an individual would either have to be very wealthy or greedy.Disclosed it would be worthless to most.
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Already stated that Bristol De Mai is a slowcoach and needs mud e.g deep conditions.Not the greatest field lining up but the Last Samuria is not so ground dependant as the fav and at respective odds the value imo.
Around 4/1 is no steal but worth a go.
£20 win.............as an aside/side bet Lay the fav win and place here......might not even finish.
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2 hours ago, Birchy said:
Most people bet for fun as they like the thrill of watching their selection win. It's as simple as that - entertainment value.
Betting at a professional level is a completely different approach. Price vs probability is the key, but "value" bets will never be found using public knowledge such as "top weight in 3 mile handicaps", "beaten favourites", "course and distance winners", etc. When bookmakers compile their books, they use every ounce of information available to calculate the probability, from which they calculate their prices. With overrounds in excess of 10%, punters are already out of pocket before they even place a bet. They have to beat the overround just to break even. As long as everyone is using the same information to make a decision, nobody will ever have an edge. The end result will always be the same despite various interpretations.
The bookies DO get the prices wrong occasionally but long term, their overround brings them a profit. It's like the roulette wheel - punters might win short term on a lucky streak, but long term they WILL lose to the house edge.
As they say on the adverts: "when the fun stops - STOP".
As accurate and true reflection as you are likely to read.
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We have a code here in Sardegna which involves Vendetta and others which are not easily translated to the UK in terms of Law etc.Omerta is widely assumed to be a Mafia i.e Napoli/Sicily mantra.Sardegna forgot that before they even thought about using it.
Did you know for example,there was no reported rape in Sardegna until 1978? Fact that no rapist ever took the stand,there was no need,there were none alive to do so.