Jenspm Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Right, so the 2010 Winter Olympics start tonight, and I have yet to see a thread about it. Anyway, I assume the interest isn't large enough to warrant a thread for each event (?), so I guess it'd all be put in here. Most Medal Winners Germany2.35 Canada3.5 USA5 Norway12 Russia17 Austria23 South Korea41 Sweden51 Switzerland81 China101 Finland151 Italy301 Korea301 France351 Great Britain1001 Netherlands1001 Most Gold Medal Winners Austria20 Canada3.5 China126 Finland501 France501 Germany2.9 Great Britain1001 Italy501 Netherlands501 Norway7.5 Russia15 South Korea51 Sweden41 Switzerland67 USA5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Today we have qualifing seasion to ski jumping normal hill contest. For that moment I see 2 strong h2h bets and one ouitright. Ekspekt Anders Bardal - Janne Happonen 1 @ 1.75 Bardal was better in 6th training jumps. They jumped from diffrent gate level (only in 1st and 4th try from the same, Anders jumped 1.5m and 2 m farther) but generally 1 gate lavel upper for Jane gave him only 1 meter advantage, and when Anders started from from upper gate, 1 lavel gave him 2-3.5 meters advantage. Before Vancouver Anders who back to FIS wc (after nice results in Continental Cups) in Japan contests show that he is still getting better from event to event. His positions: 40-19-38-27-24-19-12. In last 4 tournaments he took positions in first 30. Janne in this year in World Cup jumped only in Bad Mitterndorf and Zakopane, but only once he get WC points for 26 position in Austria. In last 2 contest he took 33 and 34th position in Zakopane. Not often we can see world cup contests on so small hills, last one was in Oslo (March 2009), there Bardal take great 5th position. WillHill Michael Neumayer - Noriaki Kasai 1 @ 1.75 Neumayer has shown really fantastic form in last WC contest, his great jumps gave Germans 1st place in team contest, he took 3rd position in last indyvidual contest as well. Kasai we can see in Japan where he took 2nd and 6th position. In Vancouver in training seasion Neumayer is far away better. 1st training day: Name - Distance - Gate Neumayer 102 - 20 Kasai 95,5 - 20 Neumayer 100 - 19 Kasai 101 -19 Neumayer 102 - 19 Kasai: 98,5 - 19 2nd training day: Neumayer 102,5 - 22 Kasai 99,5 - 22 Neumayer 102 - 28 Kasai 103 - 28 Neumayer - DNF Kasai 94,5 - 23 I think Michael who is in top form win easilly with veteran Noriaki. Nordicbet Adam Malysz - Top 3 @ 2.75 Good odd for that bet, when other bookies cut prices for about 2.20. In Poland in local bookie we have even only 3.50 for gold medal. Malysz from the begining of the season claim that Olimpic event is his main goal. He won everything in the past but still waiting for olimpic gold. In last contest he has shown great form, he improved his positions from event to event and in Klingenthal he lose only with Amman. What more he is short and technical, he loves small hills. I see here great chance to win a medal on small object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenspm Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Definitely agree on the Bardal bet, nice one :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics I'm looking now on free jump seasion, Romøren again jumed horrible (89). He is really angry, broke finger after one of his last poor jumps, it's not good in skijumping. I'm going to play Olli with him in Ekspekt for 1.70. We can also play Chedal in WillHill with Romøren for 2.37 Nice Double Bardal+Olli for 2.97 in espekt. I like Morgenstern to win :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGurv Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics unreal video of that guy dieing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics 3 more bets: Nordicbet: Michael Neumayer - Top 10 Yes: 2.55 Michael Uhrmann - Top 10 Yes: 1.90 13.02 18:45 Have to qualify and start in the competition for bets to stand Really nice odd here. Both Germans is in top form, both have fantastic last starts in Fis WC, in Vancouver jump really nice as well. Yesterday in qualification Uhrmann was first, Neumayer 3rd. WillHill Bjørn Einar Romøren - Chedal Emmanuel 2 @ 2.10 Yesterday as I wrote we have 2.37, today 2.10 but I think price still is worth of try. Romoren is really in awfull condition, not only his jumps are short, also mentally he is in deep crisis. I don't know why Norwegian put him to NT squad insteed Evens. Chedal don't jump as far as at the begining of the season but still he can achives places in 2d tens. I think Romoren will have serious problem to qulify to second round and Chedal will beat him easilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics And one more, I played double in Ekspekt: So 13-02-2010 18:45 Adam Malysz - Andreas Kofler 1 @ 1.40 So 13-02-2010 18:45 Wolfgang Loitzl - Michael Uhrmann 2 @ 2.10 Ako: 2.94 Generally I wrote about Uhrmann and Malysz. Loitzl didn't jump as well as I expect, should be much better especially on normal hill. Kofler suprised me with quite good jumps (he prefers large object and what more he had accident on hill lately) but he can't beat Malysz, no chance :). Generally I add this one to have biggest thrills today at party where I will watch today's contest :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Some good skijumping calls here;) Amman a worthy winner, but Malysz was always close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Chedal lost with Romoren by 0.5 point, Neumayer after first try was 10, but second jump was too short and only 16 position, but still better than Kasai :) All rest won :). I'm only little angry on myself that in last moment took off Stoch better tha Kuttel from my double, bet genertally nice profit :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Ivan Tcherezov - Maxim Tchoudov 1 @ 1.65 Interwetten On six WC sprints this season Tcherezov lost with Tchudov only once in Hochfilzen (he didn’t start in first event in Oestersund). In last 4 contest he was better - won in Pokljuka and than take positions 8-7-17. Tchudov started worse, only 73th in Pokljuka and than 47-8-26. In Ruhpolding he lost with Tcherezov even though he had clear schooting, when Tcherezov 1 schot missed. Tchudov after tragical schooting efficiency in Ruhpolding and Oberhoff (12 of 40 missed) imporove schooting in last 2 events (0+2) but was slower than Tcherezov. Tcherezov is quite regular in schooting 1-0-3-1-2, only once missed more than 2 rings. And what is important, biathlonists complains that in Vancouver is snowing or raining all the time. Snow is wet and competitors who started earlier has great advantage on nexts. Yesterday when started ladies it made great differences, for example bronze medal suprisly won Dorin who started with number 10. Look at results of Olafson-Zidek, the same schooting and time one minute worse than winner (it’s really strange, few weeks ago Zidek beat Kuzmina easilly). Today Tcherezov started with number 5, Tchoudov with number 53, there are almost 50 biathlonist among them ! Bimbacher – Eder 2 @ 1.83 Bet365 Eder is really fast-schooting man, he schoot like an machine. He runs fast as well. This season Eder lost with Bimbacher 2 times in Sprint, at the begining of the season in Oestersund and in domestic event in Ruhpolding when took 33 position (Eder 37). In Rupholding Eder has one miss more but lose with Bimbacher by only 4 seconds! Yesterday all Germans besides Neuner really disappointed, maybe there was sth wrong in preparetion of German team to Olympic? And again starting position, Eder started with number 42, Bimbacher with 70 Both bets low stakes, Bitahlon is really unpredictable and bed whether can cause many suprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics About Birnbacher - Eder I took odds from oddschecker, now I want to bet but this is only available not as normal h2h but h2h only time of run without schoting. I think it's even better, I stay with that bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Both won :):nana Exactly as I wrote look at first ten and for starting numbers. Who start first had huge handicap. Really strange event. Bronze for Croatia :). I considered bet Fak-Leguellec, both in past took position over 50, today one is 3rd second is 6th :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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klopsikus Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics After what I saw in ladies pursuit, where everything cames to right place decided to fast double: Ekspekt Emil Hegle Svendsen - Vincent Jay 1 @ 1.20 Ole Einar Bjørndalen - Christoph Sumann 1 @ 1.50 Ako: 1.80 I think today finally we will have "normally" competition, with gold medal for Svendson and fighting Bjoerndalen. I hope he will shot much better today and easilly win with Sumann who ran really poor in sprint and didn't use advantage he had starting with very low 7 number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Mens speed skating - Outright 1000m sprint Shani Davis 11/20 bet365 10/10 I know this price is rather short but its like buying money the only person who could possibly trouble Davis is the south korean Tae-Bum mo an in each of the last 4 times these 2 have met Davis has finished first on every occasion, really can't see him being beat 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Mens speed skating - Outright 1000m sprint Shani Davis 11/20 bet365 10/10 I know this price is rather short but its like buying money the only person who could possibly trouble Davis is the south korean Tae-Bum mo an in each of the last 4 times these 2 have met Davis has finished first on every occasion, really can't see him being beat 5pts Will sleep well tonite :clap:clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Mens Skeleton - Outright Jon Montgomery 4/6 bet365 7/10 Montgomery has been training really well on home soil the canadians say hes ice cool 'ice runs through his veins'. He took gold at whistlers olympic test event earlia in the month he won 2 silvers at the world champs in germany 2008. I feel he will be pumped up to live his dream an score his first olympic gold with amazing home support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Really can't see montgomery taking the latvian tonight with his 2 runs unless dukurs has a shocker of a run which is highley unlikely as he looks awesome at the moment. On the other hand in the womens skeleton i feel mellisa hollingsworth has got the quality and the home support to make up the time on amy williams. Something is telling me williams is going to have a poor run tonight an leave mellisa with a chance, i'm going to try an recover the money i put on montgomery with a mediums stakes on hollingsworth at 3/1 with bet365.:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Should of had more confidence in Jonny Monts great gold medal!!! hollingsworth had a shocker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Double from Ekspekt: Kamil Stoch - Taku Takuechi 1 @ 1.45 Peter Prevc - Roman Koudelka 1 @ 1.45 Ako: 2.10 Stoch after 27 position on normal hill today count on much better performance. Takuechi after poor only 94.5m jump took 34 position and on training seasion before today's contest he show that today should be even worse. Generally Stoch lost only once on trainng seasion (he juped than from gate 2 levels lower), in other was better even though first day he jumped always from 2 levels lower gate. In my estimation (not so easy to compare jumps in spite of different gate level) Stoch jumped about 25-28 position, Takuechi 44-47. In second pair we have young revelation from Slovenia, who proved on normal hill that his grat training form wasn't accidentally. He took great 7 position what was reallly big suprise (Koudelka was 12). On training seasion before large hill Prevc took part only on second day and in every single jump he was better at about 10 meters than Koudelka. I think today will be better as well. Nexts for lower stakes... Andrea Morassi - Alexey Korolev 1 @ 1.65 Both are not top jumper, but Morassi last time shew some really good jumps. Even he jump on his normal level (I mean quite poor)he is still better or the same than Korolev. On trainings Korolev jumped about 120 meters, Morassi 2-6 meters longer (2 times he jumped from lower gate), only once Korolev was better. Morassi was better in first competition and in qualiffing seasion as well. Probably both finish after first jump but I'm pretty sure that Morassi will take better position. Double from Interwetten: Kofler - Wolfgang Loitzl 1 @ 1.70 Interwetten Jacobsen A. - Ahonen J. 1 @ 1.40 Ako: 2.38 On normall hill Loitzl was better and it wasn’t any suprise. He prefer small hills, inversely than Kofler, who loves fly. Suprise for me was only 11 position for Loitzl, before Olimpic I was thinking that he can win medal on normal hill, but on training he shew that he is form is not as good as earlier. They both proved their preferences on training seasions before today;s contest; on 6th training jumps Kofler 5 time had better results, lost only one for half a meter. Generally he jumped 19.5 meters longer than Loitzl. Today I think Kofler beat Wolfgang easilly. Jacobsen still is in great form, and his fantastic jump in qualifing shows that he can even fight for medal. ONly 9 position on normal hill wasn't suprise me, here we have another jumperwho prefer bigger hills. Jane back to sport to gain gold medal on olimpic games, but if he didn't do it on normal hill, I don't thin that he has any chance on large one. During the trainings Andrea was much better than Jane, he won all 5 attempts in which Jane took part. What's more Jacobsen jump 141.5 meters from 21 gate, 134 from 19, 135.5 and 135.5 from 18, when Jane only once fly longer than 130 meters. Odd is not to big as for ski jumping but I can't see any other option here than Jacobsen better than Ahonen. And 2 bets for position from Nordicbet: Noriaki Kasai top 10 @ 3.15 I see some value here. Kasai had great training jumps (about 8-9 position) and won qualifications. He is experienced, like large hills, I think he has about 50% chance to finish in top 10, so 3.15 is good odd. Robert Kranjec top 10 @ 1.70 If he was 6th on normal hill on large he can be only better. everyone know that it is tipical flyer, when he has form he can jump really really far. I see him in top10, even in top 5 today. On training seasion he jumped about 6 position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Double from Ekspekt: Kamil Stoch - Taku Takuechi 1 @ 1.45 Peter Prevc - Roman Koudelka 1 @ 1.45 Ako: 2.10 Stoch after 27 position on normal hill today count on much better performance. Takuechi after poor only 94.5m jump took 34 position and on training seasion before today's contest he show that today should be even worse. Generally Stoch lost only once on trainng seasion (he juped than from gate 2 levels lower), in other was better even though first day he jumped always from 2 levels lower gate. In my estimation (not so easy to compare jumps in spite of different gate level) Stoch jumped about 25-28 position, Takuechi 44-47. In second pair we have young revelation from Slovenia, who proved on normal hill that his grat training form wasn't accidentally. He took great 7 position what was reallly big suprise (Koudelka was 12). On training seasion before large hill Prevc took part only on second day and in every single jump he was better at about 10 meters than Koudelka. I think today will be better as well. Nexts for lower stakes... Andrea Morassi - Alexey Korolev 1 @ 1.65 Both are not top jumper, but Morassi last time shew some really good jumps. Even he jump on his normal level (I mean quite poor)he is still better or the same than Korolev. On trainings Korolev jumped about 120 meters, Morassi 2-6 meters longer (2 times he jumped from lower gate), only once Korolev was better. Morassi was better in first competition and in qualiffing seasion as well. Probably both finish after first jump but I'm pretty sure that Morassi will take better position. Double from Interwetten: Kofler - Wolfgang Loitzl 1 @ 1.70 Interwetten Jacobsen A. - Ahonen J. 1 @ 1.40 Ako: 2.38 On normall hill Loitzl was better and it wasn’t any suprise. He prefer small hills, inversely than Kofler, who loves fly. Suprise for me was only 11 position for Loitzl, before Olimpic I was thinking that he can win medal on normal hill, but on training he shew that he is form is not as good as earlier. They both proved their preferences on training seasions before today;s contest; on 6th training jumps Kofler 5 time had better results, lost only one for half a meter. Generally he jumped 19.5 meters longer than Loitzl. Today I think Kofler beat Wolfgang easilly. Jacobsen still is in great form, and his fantastic jump in qualifing shows that he can even fight for medal. ONly 9 position on normal hill wasn't suprise me, here we have another jumperwho prefer bigger hills. Jane back to sport to gain gold medal on olimpic games, but if he didn't do it on normal hill, I don't thin that he has any chance on large one. During the trainings Andrea was much better than Jane, he won all 5 attempts in which Jane took part. What's more Jacobsen jump 141.5 meters from 21 gate, 134 from 19, 135.5 and 135.5 from 18, when Jane only once fly longer than 130 meters. Odd is not to big as for ski jumping but I can't see any other option here than Jacobsen better than Ahonen. And 2 bets for position from Nordicbet: Noriaki Kasai top 10 @ 3.15 I see some value here. Kasai had great training jumps (about 8-9 position) and won qualifications. He is experienced, like large hills, I think he has about 50% chance to finish in top 10, so 3.15 is good odd. Robert Kranjec top 10 @ 1.70 If he was 6th on normal hill on large he can be only better. everyone know that it is tipical flyer, when he has form he can jump really really far. I see him in top10, even in top 5 today. On training seasion he jumped about 6 position. Only Morassi failed :nana Great eveing again, Kasai and Karaniec amazing performance in 2nd round, now I'm really flying over the moon :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornet_18 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Have taken the youngster Marcel Hirscher to win a medal in the mens slalom. Not his strongest event (that comes in Grand Slalom) but still a very good slalom skier. Has finished in the top 11 in his past 5 slalom skiing world cup events including 2 podiums (2nd last time out). Having seen Fischbacher win a gold for Austria will have taken some of the pressure off the youngster and while he normally throws in a poorer first run and a spectacular second run, if he gets off to a decent start, he is definitely a threat for a medal. The price for a medal of 4.5 looks too big. GL:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics 2 bets for Men's Super Combined Carlo Janka - Bode Miller 2 @ 1.80 Ekspekt Both are great in downhill and GS and much worse in technical competitions. Miller has better form, gain already 2 medals while Janka failed, only 8th and 11. In downhill Miller took 0.6 sce advantage (on training over 1 sec), on training before combination Janka lost to winner Defago over 1 sec (Miller didn't start). I think Miller win downhill with over 0.5 sec advantage, slalom is a bit lottery, but if both finish I think won't lose his advantage. My stake here sth like 4/10 Lower stake for: INNERHOFER Christof - VILETTA Sandro 1 @ 1.80 Interwetten Fast vs technical. I bet for Innerhofer becouse in Vacnouver he has more rides than Viletta. On downhill training Innerhoifer beat Viletta by 1.5 sec. Than Innehoffer took part in downhill (19 position) and SuperG (6th), Viletta do nothing in meantime. On yesterday's training Viletta has not bad result, but today it will be Olimpic debut for him. I think 1.80 for Innerhofer is ok here. 2/10 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Biathlon, mass start. Daniel Mesotitsch - Simon Fourcade 1 @ 1.90 Ekspekt S.Fourcade is in really bad form, 71st position in Sprint with 4 missed shots, 40th in Individual with another 4 missed. Mesotish after fantastic performance in last WC event in Antholz-Anterselva (2nd in individual, 5th in Sprint and 1st in pursuit) in Vancouver after poor result in Sprint (45 position, 41 in pursuit) in inividual after 2 missed placed on good 9th position. S. Fourcade not only shot worse than Austrian, he also ran slower for about 30 seconds. On last WC mass starts in Rupholding (in Anterselva there wasn't mass start race) despite the fact that Mesotitsch missed one more than Fourcade he beat him for 10 seconds. 6/10 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Mens 4 man bobsleigh Outright - Andre Lange 11/20 bet365 Again like Shani Davis not a massive price but pretty much a guranteed win, The german is quite possibly the greatest bobsleigh pilot of all time hes already close to securing the 2-man an it is well known he favours the 4 man event. Everybody get on !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Daniel Mesotitsch - Simon Fourcade 1 @ 1.90 Ekspekt:cheers but alpine skiing after SUperG not too good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankgallagher Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Mens 4 man bobsleigh Outright - Andre Lange 11/20 bet365 Again like Shani Davis not a massive price but pretty much a guranteed win, The german is quite possibly the greatest bobsleigh pilot of all time hes already close to securing the 2-man an it is well known he favours the 4 man event. Everybody get on !!! When does this go in play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrArc Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics On the Olympic website they say the event will start the 26th with the first heat getting under way at 1:00 pst. I have just noticed coral have got Lange at 8/13 which is a tastier price but they will proberly be cautious with the amount your aloud to put on at this price. Coral will suspend betting at midnight tonight , while bet365 suspend on the 23rd at 5pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankgallagher Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics On the Olympic website they say the event will start the 26th with the first heat getting under way at 1:00 pst. I have just noticed coral have got Lange at 8/13 which is a tastier price but they will proberly be cautious with the amount your aloud to put on at this price. Coral will suspend betting at midnight tonight ' date=' while bet365 suspend on the 23rd at 5pm.[/quote'] Cheers:cheers betfair market not very juicy yet.. will keep an eye on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopsikus Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Re: The 2010 Winter Olympics Alpine skiing both win :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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