Do you remember September 2005?

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 15 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Chelsea vs Porto – Lay Porto @ 9.4 – 4.43 pts 1:0 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Juventus vs Girondins Bordeaux - Lay Girondins Bordeaux @ 6.8 – 6.64 pts 1:1 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Leicester vs Peterborough United – Lay Peterborough United @ 5.3 – 6.64 pts 1:1 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Olympique Marseille vs AC Milan – Lay AC Milan @ 3.5 – 11.07 pts 1:2 20:45 cet England – The Championship – West Bromwich Albion vs Doncaster – Lay Doncaster @ 7.6 – 4.43 pts 3:1 Comments: Milan avoided a good night. Inzaghi when did you retire?, hehe. A pity they were all day between 3.5/3.55, just our limit for backer stake, at 3.55 we have finished day with profit. We must wake up and return to green side. Bank decreased yesterday 6.64 points to 1026.61, backers’ stakes for Weekdays’ games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Weekdays’ strike-rate: 8 win from 11 selections = 72.73% September strike-rate: 67 win from 82 selections = 81.61% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 67 win from 82 selections = 81.61% Profit/(loss) Weekdays: (19.70) Bank increase/(loss) Weekdays: (1.89%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: 2.00% Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: 2.00% Tomorrow's bank: 1019.97 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 16 19:00 cet Sweden – Svenska Cup – Helsingborg IF vs IFK Gothenburg – Lay Helsingborg IF@ 2.66 – 11.07 pts 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Dynamo Kiev vs Rubi Kazan - Lay Dynamo Kiev @ 2.16 – 11.07 pts 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Standard Liege vs Arsenal – Lay Standard Liege @ 6.6 – 6.64 pts 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Blackpool vs Newcastle United – Lay Blackpool @ 3.9 – 6.64 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Few time to post as I have to leave now, Just post my lays with prizes and this night I'll update all. All from Europa League FC Timisoara @ 13.0 - 4.43 pts SC Herenveen @ 4.2 - 6.64 pts Rapid Vienna @ 5.8 - 6.64 pts BATE Borisov @ 14.0 - 4.43 pts Twente @ 5.6 - 6.64 pts Red Bull Salzburg @ 9.8 - 4.43 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 16 & Day 17 19:00 cet Sweden – Svenska Cup – Helsingborg IF vs IFK Gothenburg – Lay IFK Gothenburg @ 2.66 – 11.07 pts 1:3 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Dynamo Kiev vs Rubi Kazan - Lay Dynamo Kiev @ 2.16 – 12.84 pts 3:1 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Standard Liege vs Arsenal – Lay Standard Liege @ 6.6 – 6.64 pts 2:3 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Blackpool vs Newcastle United – Lay Blackpool @ 3.9 – 19.26 pts 2:1 19:00 cet UEFA – Europa League – Ajax vs FC Timisoara – Lay FC Timisoara @ 13.0 – 4.43 pts 0:0 19:00 cet UEFA – Europa League – SC Herenveen vs Sporting Lisbon @ 4.2 – 6.64 pts 2:3 19:00 cet UEFA – Europa League – Rapid Vienna vs Hamburger SV – Lay Rapid Vienna @ 5.8 – 31.87 3:0 21:05 cet UEFA – Europa League – Benfica vs BATE Borisov – Lay BATE Borisov @ 14.0 – 4.43 pts 2:0 21:05 cet UEFA – Europa League – Fenerbahce vs FC Twente – Lay FC Twente @ 5.6 – 30.55 pts 1:2 21:05 cet UEFA – Europa League – Lazio vs Red Bull Salzburg – Lay Red Bull Salzburg @ 9.8 – 38.96 pts 1:2 Comments: Just shocked yesterday night when F’bahce & Lazio lose their games in last 20 minutes with tremendous mistakes. Is been a hard week for us, not only have lost all our profit, now we are on red side by a similar amount. We need to be more selective in next days to find the right way again. Bank is now 918.04, backers’ stakes for Weekdays’ games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Weekdays’ strike-rate: 13 win from 21 selections = 61.90% September strike-rate: 76 win from 97 selections = 78.35% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 76 win from 97 selections = 78.35% Profit/(loss) Weekdays: (121.63) Bank increase/(loss) Weekdays: (11.70%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (8.20%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (8.20%) Tomorrow's bank: 918.04 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 18 18:00 cet Germany – 2. Bundesliga – Karlsruher SV vs FSV Frankfurt – Lay Frankfurt @ 9.8 – 4.43 pts 20:00 cet France – Ligue 2 – SCO Angers vs Sedan-Ardennes – Lay Sedan-Ardennes @ 4.1 – 6.63 pts 20:00 cet France – Ligue 2 – Bastia vs FC Nantes – Lay Bastia @ 3.9 – 6.63 pts 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – De Graafschap vs Fortuna Sittard – Lay Fortuna Sittard @ 13.0 – 4.43 pts 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – Helmond Sport vs FC Eindhoven - Lay FC Eindhoven @ 9.2 – 4.43 pts 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – RBC Roosendaal vs Haarlem – Lay Haarlem @ 5.6 – 6.64 pts 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – Stromvogels Telstar vs FC Emmen – Lay FC Emmen @ 4.8 – 6.64 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 18 18:00 cet Germany – 2. Bundesliga – Karlsruher SV vs FSV Frankfurt – Lay Frankfurt @ 9.8 – 4.43 pts 2:0 20:00 cet France – Ligue 2 – SCO Angers vs Sedan-Ardennes – Lay Sedan-Ardennes @ 4.1 – 6.63 pts 1:1 20:00 cet France – Ligue 2 – Bastia vs FC Nantes – Lay Bastia @ 3.9 – 6.63 pts 1:1 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – De Graafschap vs Fortuna Sittard – Lay Fortuna Sittard @ 13.0 – 4.43 pts 2:0 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – Helmond Sport vs FC Eindhoven - Lay FC Eindhoven @ 9.2 – 4.43 pts 2:2 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – RBC Roosendaal vs Haarlem – Lay Haarlem @ 5.6 – 6.64 pts 2:2 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – Stromvogels Telstar vs FC Emmen – Lay FC Emmen @ 4.8 – 6.64 pts 4:1 Comments: Finally we end the poor run we had all week, we needed it because last days were a bit hard, especially in Europa League, another no bet competition for next weeks. Wasn’t a calm night today, most of the games ended in draw and I was waiting for the damn goal that transform a profit day in a day of losses but not tonight. Keep calm to avoid that this is an oasis in desert. Bank has increased today 37.85 and is now in 955.89, backers’ stakes for Saturday’s games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Weekdays’ strike-rate: 20 win from 28 selections = 61.90% September strike-rate: 83 win from 104 selections = 79.81% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 83 win from 104 selections = 79.81% Profit/(loss) Weekdays: (83.78) Bank increase/(loss) Weekdays: (8.06%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (4.41%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (4.41%) Tomorrow's bank: 955.89 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 19 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Borussia M’gladbach vs 1899 Hoffenheim – Lay 1899 Hoffenheim @ 2.42 – 11.07 pts 16:00 cet England – The Championship – Newcastle United vs Plymouth Argyle – Lay Plymouth Argyle @ 10.0 – 4.43 pts 16:00 cet England – League One – Wycombe vs MK Dons – Lay Wycombe @ 4.1 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – League Two – Port Vale vs Bury – Lay Bury @ 3.45 – 11.07 16:00 cet England – Conference – Chester vs Stevenage Borough – Lay Chester @ 5.0 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – Conference – Kidderminster vs Gateshead – Lay Gateshead @ 7.0 – 6.64 pts 18:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Rayo Vallecano vs Real Union Irun – Lay Real Union Irun @ 5.3 – 6.64 pts 20:00 cet Ireland – Eircom League – Shamrock Rovers vs Bray Wanderers – Lay Bray Wanderers @ 11.5 – 4.43 pts 20:00 cet Spain – La Liga – Osasuna vs Sevilla – Lay Osasuna @ 3.6 – 6.64 pts 21:00 cet France – Ligue 1 – Olympique Marseille vs Montpellier – Lay Olympique Marseille @ 1.45 – 11.07 pts 22:00 cet Spain – La Liga – Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid – Lay Atletico Madrid @ 11.5 – 4.43 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 19 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Borussia M’gladbach vs 1899 Hoffenheim – Lay 1899 Hoffenheim @ 2.42 – 11.07 pts 2:4 16:00 cet England – The Championship – Newcastle United vs Plymouth Argyle – Lay Plymouth Argyle @ 10.0 – 4.43 pts 3:1 16:00 cet England – League One – Wycombe vs MK Dons – Lay Wycombe @ 4.1 – 6.64 pts 0:1 16:00 cet England – League Two – Port Vale vs Bury – Lay Bury @ 3.45 – 11.07 0:1 16:00 cet England – Conference – Chester vs Stevenage Borough – Lay Chester @ 5.0 – 6.64 pts 0:1 16:00 cet England – Conference – Kidderminster vs Gateshead – Lay Gateshead @ 7.0 – 6.64 pts 3:2 18:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Rayo Vallecano vs Real Union Irun – Lay Real Union Irun @ 5.3 – 6.64 pts 2:0 20:00 cet Ireland – Eircom League – Shamrock Rovers vs Bray Wanderers – Lay Bray Wanderers @ 11.5 – 4.43 pts 3:1 20:00 cet Spain – La Liga – Osasuna vs Sevilla – Lay Osasuna @ 3.6 – 6.64 pts 0:2 21:00 cet France – Ligue 1 – Olympique Marseille vs Montpellier – Lay Olympique Marseille @ 1.45 – 11.07 pts 4:2 22:00 cet Spain – La Liga – Barcelona vs Atletico Madrid – Lay Atletico Madrid @ 11.5 – 4.43 pts 5:2 Comments: Poor Gladbach who was unable to hold an early 2-0 lead and received 3 goals in last 5 minutes. Rest of day run normal Maybe I should stay away of lower odds lays as they cost me some losses lately but I ever liked to find surprise of the day . Bank has decreased today 3.65 and is now in 952.24, backers’ stakes for Sunday’s games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Saturday’s strike-rate: 8 win from 11 selections = 72.73% September strike-rate: 91 win from 115 selections = 79.13% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 91 win from 115 selections = 79.13% Profit/(loss) Saturday: (3.65) Bank increase/(loss) Saturday: (0.38%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (4.78%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (4.78%) Tomorrow's bank: 952.24 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 20 12:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Hercules vs Cadiz – Lay Cadiz @ 5.4 – 6.64 pts 14:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – HB Koge vs Odense BK – Lay Odense BK @ 1.41 – 11.07 pts 14:30 cet Netherlands – Eredivisie – SC Herenveen vs FC Twente – Lay SC Herenveen @ 3.75 – 6.64 pts 14:30 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – FC Den Bosch vs TOP Oss – Lay TOP Oss @ 8.4 – 4.43 pts 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Chievo vs Genoa – Lay Chievo @ 3.2 – 11.07 pts 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – AC Milan vs Bologna – Lay Bologna @ 13.0 – 4.46 pts 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Cagliari vs Inter Milan – Lay Cagliari @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Sampdoria vs Siena – Lay Siena @ 7.0 – 6.64 pts 15:00 cet Sweden – Allsvenkan – IFK Gothenburg – Hammarby – Lay Hammarby @ 11.0 – 4.43 pts 16:00 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – HJK Helsinki vs Vaasa PS – Lay Vaasa PS @ 9.0/13.0 – 4.43 pts * 16:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Moss vs Tromsdalen – Lay Tromsdalen @ 5.3 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Stavanger – Sarpsborg 08 – Lay Stavanger @ 3.7 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Angelhoms FF vs Vasalund – Lay Vasalund @ 6.2 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Falkenbergs FF vs Vasby United – Lay Vasby United @ 6.4 – 6.64 pts 17:00 cet France – Ligue 1 – Lens vs Lille – Lay Lille @ 3.1 – 11.07 pts 17:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Real Sociedad vs Girona – Lay Girona @ 5.7 – 6.64 pts 17:30 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – FC Honka vs FC Haka Valkeakoski – Lay FC Haka Valkeakoski @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 17:30 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – FF Jaro vs Turku PS – Lay FF Jaro @ 6.0 – 6.64 pts 18:00 cet Czech Republic – Gambrinus Liga – Sigma Olomouc vs Kladno – Lay Kladno @ 6.4 – 6.64 pts 18:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler Pro League – Westerlo vs Club Brugge – Lay Westerlo @ 4.1 – 6.64 pts 18:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – FC Copenhagen vs Randers FC – Lay Randers FC @ 12.5 – 4.43 pts 18:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Alta vs Skeid – Lay Skeid @ 9.6 – 4.43 pts 18:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Honefoss vs Bryne – Lay Bryne @ 8.0 – 4.43 pts 19:00 cet Iceland – Pepsi-deild karla – KR Reykjavik vs Stjarnan Gardabae – Lay Stjarnan Gardabae @ * 20:00 cet Norway – Tippeligaen – Valerenga vs Lyn – Lay Lyn @4.6 – 6.64 pts 20:45 cet Italy – Serie A – AS Roma vs Fiorentina – Lay AS Roma @ 2.16 – 11.07 pts 21:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler Pro League – RSC Anderlecht vs AA Gent – Lay AA Gent @ 6.2 – 6.64 pts * waiting for tomorrow prize

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? This night will update Day 20 results. Day 21 19:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – AGF Aarhus vs FC Midtjylland – Lay FC Midtjylland @ 4.2 – 6.64 pts 20:45 cet France – Ligue 2 – SM Caen vs AC Ajaccio – Lay AC Ajaccio @ 8.6 – 4.43 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 20 12:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Hercules vs Cadiz – Lay Cadiz @ 5.4 – 6.64 pts 1:0 14:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – HB Koge vs Odense BK – Lay Odense BK @ 1.41 – 4.54 pts 1:3 14:30 cet Netherlands – Eredivisie – SC Herenveen vs FC Twente – Lay SC Herenveen @ 3.75 – 6.64 pts 0:2 14:30 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – FC Den Bosch vs TOP Oss – Lay TOP Oss @ 8.4 – 4.43 pts 3:3 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Chievo vs Genoa – Lay Chievo @ 3.2 – 24.35 pts 3:1 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – AC Milan vs Bologna – Lay Bologna @ 13.0 – 4.46 pts 1:0 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Cagliari vs Inter Milan – Lay Cagliari @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 1:2 15:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Sampdoria vs Siena – Lay Siena @ 7.0 – 6.64 pts 4:1 15:00 cet – Sweden – Allsvenkan – IFK Gothenburg – Hammarby – Lay Hammarby @ 11.0 – 4.43 pts 2:0 16:00 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – HJK Helsinki vs Vaasa PS – Lay Vaasa PS @ 9.0/13.0 – 4.43 pts 2:0 16:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Moss vs Tromsdalen – Lay Tromsdalen @ 5.3 – 6.64 pts 2:1 16:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Stavanger – Sarpsborg 08 – Lay Stavanger @ 3.7 – 6.64 pts 0:2 16:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Angelhoms FF vs Vasalund – Lay Vasalund @ 6.2 – 6.64 pts 1:0 16:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Falkenbergs FF vs Vasby United – Lay Vasby United @ 6.4 – 35.86 pts 0:2 17:00 cet France – Ligue 1 – Lens vs Lille – Lay Lille @ 3.1 – 11.07 pts 1:1 17:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Real Sociedad vs Girona – Lay Girona @ 5.7 – 6.64 pts 2:2 17:30 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – FC Honka vs FC Haka Valkeakoski – Lay FC Haka Valkeakoski @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 2:0 17:30 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – FF Jaro vs Turku PS – Lay FF Jaro @ 6.0 – 33.20 pts 1:0 18:00 cet Czech Republic – Gambrinus Liga – Sigma Olomouc vs Kladno – Lay Kladno @ 6.4 – 35.86 pts 1:2 18:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler Pro League – Westerlo vs Club Brugge – Lay Westerlo @ 4.1 – 6.64 pts 1:4 18:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – FC Copenhagen vs Randers FC – Lay Randers FC @ 12.5 – 4.43 pts 3:0 18:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Alta vs Skeid – Lay Skeid @ 9.6 – 4.43 pts1:1 18:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Honefoss vs Bryne – Lay Bryne @ 8.0 – 4.43 pts 1:1 19:00 cet Iceland – Pepsi-deild karla – KR Reykjavik vs Stjarnan Gardabae – Lay Stjarnan Gardabae @ 7:3 20:00 cet Norway – Tippeligaen – Valerenga vs Lyn – Lay Lyn @4.6 – 6.64 pts 4:1 20:45 cet Italy – Serie A – AS Roma vs Fiorentina – Lay AS Roma @ 2.16 – 12.84 pts 3:1 21:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler Pro League – RSC Anderlecht vs AA Gent – Lay AA Gent @ 6.2 – 6.64 pts 1:1 Comments: We are loosing good profits for risking too much . Bank has decreased today 26.78 and is now in 925.46, backers’ stakes for Weekdays’ games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Sunday’s strike-rate: 21 win from 28 selections = 77.78% September strike-rate: 112 win from 142 selections = 78.87% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 112 win from 142 selections = 78.87% Profit/(loss) Sunday: (26.78) Bank increase/(loss) Sunday: (2.81%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (7.45%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (7.45%) Tomorrow's bank: 925.46 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 22 20:00 cet Spain – Liga BBVA – Sevilla vs Mallorca – Lay Mallorca @ 8.2 – 4.43 pts 20:45 cet England – Conference – Kettering vs Barrow – Lay Barrow @ 8.4 – 4.43 pts 20:45 cet England – Conference – Stevenage Borough vs Grays Athletic – Lay Grays Athletic @ 13.5 – 4.43 pts 20:45 cet Italy – Serie B – Torino vs Padova – Lay Padova @ 9.0 – 4.43 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 21 19:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – AGF Aarhus vs FC Midtjylland – Lay FC Midtjylland @ 4.2 – 21.25 pts 2:4 20:45 cet France – Ligue 2 – SM Caen vs AC Ajaccio – Lay AC Ajaccio @ 8.6 – 4.43 pts 1:0 Comments: Week hasn’t started well but this will change soon…It’s only a feeling . Bank has decreased 17.05 and is now in 908.41, backers’ stakes for Weekdays’ games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Weekdays’ strike-rate: 1 win from 2 selections = 50.00% September strike-rate: 113 win from 144 selections = 78.47% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 113 win from 144 selections = 78.47% Profit/(loss) Weekdays: (17.05) Bank increase/(loss) Weekdays: (1.84%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (9.16%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (9.16%) Tomorrow's bank: 908.41 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Some busy days at work but now I'm back with friday night football :loon Day 25 17:00 cet Russia – Wischaja – Rubin Kazan vs Amkar Perm – Lay Amkar Perm @ 13.0 – 4.43 pts 18:00 cet Germany – 2. Bundesliga – Union Berlin vs RW Ahlen – Lay RW Ahlen @ 8.2 – 4.43 pts 19:00 cet Austria – Erste Liga – SCR Altach vs Vienna – Lay Vienna @ 8.4 – 4.43 pts 19:00 cet Austria – Erste Liga – Wacker Insbruck vs Red Bull Juniors – Lay Red Bull Juniors @ 7.2 – 6.64 pts 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – FC Emmen vs Helmond Sport – Lay FC Emmen @ 4.8 – 6.64 pts 20:45 cet Ireland – Eircom League – Dundalk vs Galway United – Lay Draw @ 4.0 – 6.64 pts 21:15 cet Portugal – Liga Sagres – Olhanense vs Sporting Braga – Lay Olhanense @ 4.3 – 6.64 pts

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 25 17:00 cet Russia – Wischaja – Rubin Kazan vs Amkar Perm – Lay Amkar Perm @ 13.0 – 53.12 pts 1:2 18:00 cet Germany – 2. Bundesliga – Union Berlin vs RW Ahlen – Lay RW Ahlen @ 8.2 – 4.43 pts 2:1 19:00 cet Austria – Erste Liga – SCR Altach vs Vienna – Lay Vienna @ 8.4 – 4.43 pts 3:0 19:00 cet Austria – Erste Liga – SC Lustenau vs Red Bull Juniors – Lay Red Bull Juniors @ 7.2 – 6.64 pts 2:1 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – FC Emmen vs Helmond Sport – Lay FC Emmen @ 4.8 – 6.64 pts 1:3 20:45 cet Ireland – Eircom League – Dundalk vs Galway United – Lay Draw @ 4.0 – 6.64 pts 3:0 21:15 cet Portugal – Liga Sagres – Olhanense vs Sporting Braga – Lay Olhanense @ 4.3 – 6.64 pts 0:1 Comments: Sometimes I think that I’m a bit silly. I have Russian league in my black list to bet with most of Eastern Europe leagues but as I’m stupid I bet one more time and again Amkar Perm devastated what would have been a good way to be back at work. This team have cost us 87.00 pts with two away wins but no once more, lesson learned. Bank has decreased 19.48 reaching a new low in 866.14, backers’ stakes for Saturday’s games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) From Day 26 new Staking System Prices below 5.50: lay to 1% of bank Prices from 5.51 to 9.50: lay to 0.6% of bank Prices from 9.51 to 15.00: lay to 0.4% of bank Results: Weekdays’ strike-rate: 10 win from 13 selections = 76.92% September strike-rate: 122 win from 155 selections = 78.71% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 122 win from 155 selections = 78.71% Profit/(loss) Weekdays: (59.32) Bank increase/(loss) Weekdays: (6.41%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (13.39%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (13.39%) Tomorrow's bank: 866.14 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 26 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Eintracht Frankfurt vs VfB Stuttgart – Lay VfB Stuttgart @ 2.68 – 11.07 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Wolfsburg vs Hannover 96 – Lay Hannover 96 @ 9.2 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – Premier League – Wigan vs Chelsea – Lay Wigan @ 13.5 – 4.43 pts 16:00 cet England – The Championship – Swansea vs Sheffield United – Lay Swansea @ 3.45 – 11.07 pts 16:00 cet England – The Championship – West Bromwich Albion vs Crystal Palace – Lay Crystal Palace @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – League One – Bristol Rovers vs Brighton – Lay Brighton @ 5.00 – 11.07 pts 16:00 cet England – League One – Charlton Athletic vs Exeter – Lay Exeter @ 9.2 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – League Two – Bounemouth vs Burton Albion – Lay Burton Albion @ 6.8 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – League Two – Dag & Red vs Morecambe – Lay Morecambe @ 7 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – League Two – Shrewsbury vs Northampton – Lay Northampton @ 4.7 – 11.07 pts 16:00 cet England – Conference – Gateshead vs Oxford – Lay Gateshead @ 6.6 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet England – Conference – Mansfield vs Hayes & Yeading – Lay Hayes & Yeading @ 8.0 – 6.64 pts 16:00 cet Scotland – Third Division – Berwick vs Montrose – Lay Montrose @ 6.2 – 6.64 pts 17:00 cet Czech Republic – Gambrinus Liga – Sparta Prague vs Viktoria Plzen – Lay Viktoria Plzen @ 8.2 – 6.64 pts 17:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – Odense BK vs FC Nordsjaelland – Lay FC Nordsjaelland @ 9.6 – 4.43 pts 17:45 cet Switzerland – Super League – St Gallen vs Young Boys Bern – Lay St Gallen @ 4.2 – 11.07 pts 18:00 cet Austria – Bundesliga – Rapid Vienna vs SC Magna Wr Neustadt – Lay SC Magna Wr Neustadt @ * 18:00 cet Austria – Bundesliga – Austria Kärnten vs Red Bull Salzburg - Lay Autria Kärnten @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 18:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Girona vs Real Union Irun – Lay Real Union Irun @ 4.3 – 11.07 pts 19:00 cet France – Ligue 2 – FC Nantes vs Nimes – Lay Nimes @ 8.6 – 6.64 pts 20:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler League – Racing Genk vs Roeselare – Lay Roeselare @ 11.5 – 4.43 pts 20:00 cet Belgium - EXQI League – Antwerpen vs Ronse – Lay Ronse @ * 22:00 cet Spain – Liga BBVA – Valencia vs Atletico Madrid – La Draw @ 4.1 – 11.07 pts * Waiting for tomorrow prize

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? I'll be on road tomorrow and have to rest now, tomorrow lays are Day 27 Belgium - Beerschot @ 9.0 Denmark - Viborg @ 4.4 Denmark - Kolding @ 7.2 Denmark - Braband @ 13.0 Finland - RoPs @ 6.6 France - Rennes @ 6.8 Germany - Hertha @ 9.0 Netherlands - Heracles @ 6.4 Norway - Start @ 3.9 Norway - Stromgodset @ 8.4 Norway - Stavanger @ 12.0 Norway - Lov Ham @ 5.7 Spain - Lay Xerez @ 7.2 Spain - Cartagena @ 7.0 Sweden - Hammarby @ 7.4 :hope Tomorrow night will update.

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Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 26 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Eintracht Frankfurt vs VfB Stuttgart – Lay VfB Stuttgart @ 2.68 – 18.59 0:3 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Wolfsburg vs Hannover 96 – Lay Hannover 96 @ 9.2 – 6.64 pts 4:2 16:00 cet England – Premier League – Wigan vs Chelsea – Lay Wigan @ 13.5 – 55.34 pts 3:1 16:00 cet England – The Championship – Swansea vs Sheffield United – Lay Swansea @ 3.45 – 27.12 pts 2:1 16:00 cet England – The Championship – West Bromwich Albion vs Crystal Palace – Lay Crystal Palace @ 7.4 – 42.50 pts 0:1 16:00 cet England – League One – Bristol Rovers vs Brighton – Lay Brighton @ 5.00 – 11.07 pts 1:1 16:00 cet England – League One – Charlton Athletic vs Exeter – Lay Exeter @ 9.2 – 6.64 pts 2:1 16:00 cet England – League Two – Bournemouth vs Burton Albion – Lay Burton Albion @ 6.8 – 6.64 pts 1:0 16:00 cet England – League Two – Dag & Red vs Morecambe – Lay Morecambe @ 7 – 6.64 pts 1:1 16:00 cet England – League Two – Shrewsbury vs Northampton – Lay Northampton @ 4.7 – 11.07 pts 3:0 16:00 cet England – Conference – Gateshead vs Oxford – Lay Gateshead @ 6.6 – 6.64 pts 0:1 16:00 cet England – Conference – Mansfield vs Hayes & Yeading – Lay Hayes & Yeading @ 8.0 – 6.64 pts 3:1 16:00 cet Scotland – Third Division – Berwick vs Montrose – Lay Montrose @ 6.2 – 6.64 pts 3:0 17:00 cet Czech Republic – Gambrinus Liga – Sparta Prague vs Viktoria Plzen – Lay Viktoria Plzen @ 8.2 – 6.64 pts 0:0 17:00 cet Denmark – SAS Ligaen – Odense BK vs FC Nordsjaelland – Lay FC Nordsjaelland @ 9.6 – 4.43 pts 2:0 17:45 cet Switzerland – Super League – St Gallen vs Young Boys Bern – Lay St Gallen @ 4.2 – 11.07 pts 2:3 18:00 cet Austria – Bundesliga – Rapid Vienna vs SC Magna Wr Neustadt – Lay SC Magna Wr Neustadt @ 9.0 – 6.64 3:1 18:00 cet Austria – Bundesliga – Austria Kärnten vs Red Bull Salzburg - Lay Autria Kärnten @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 1:2 18:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Girona vs Real Union Irun – Lay Real Union Irun @ 4.3 – 36.52 pts 0:2 19:00 cet France – Ligue 2 – FC Nantes vs Nimes – Lay Nimes @ 8.6 – 6.64 pts 2:1 20:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler League – Racing Genk vs Roeselare – Lay Roeselare @ 11.5 – 4.43 pts 1:1 20:00 cet Belgium - EXQI League – Antwerpen vs Ronse – Lay Ronse @ 1:1 22:00 cet Spain – Liga BBVA – Valencia vs Atletico Madrid – La Draw @ 4.1 – 34.31 pts 2:2 Comments: Upsets’ day in UK and 92’ equalizer in Valencia. It was our biggest loss in a day but I’m confident with new levels. I’ll bet less under 4.0 and we’ll se results in long term. Bank has decreased 100.83 reaching a new low in 765.31, backers’ stakes for Saturday’s games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Saturday’s strike-rate: 17 win from 23 selections = 73.91% September strike-rate: 139 win from 178 selections = 78.09% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 139 win from 178 selections = 78.09% Profit/(loss) Saturday: (100.83) Bank increase/(loss) Saturday: (11.64%) Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (23.47%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (23.47%) Tomorrow's bank: 765.31 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 27 12:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Betis vs Cartagena – Lay Cartagena @ 7.0 – 6.64 pts 0:0 13:45 cet Denmark – Viasat Sport Divisionen – AB Copenhagen vs Viborg FF – Lay Viborg FF @ 4.4 – 11.07 pts 0:0 14:30 cet Sweden – Malmö FF vs Hammarby – Lay Hammarby @ 7.4 – 6.64 pts 3:1 15:00 cet Denmark – Viasat Sport Divisionen – FC Fredericia vs Kolding FC – Lay Kolding FC @ 7.2 – 6.64 pts 5:0 15:00 cet Denmark – Viasat Sport Divisionen – Lyngby BK – Brabrand – Lay Brabrand @ 13.0 – 4.43 pts 3:0 16:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Haugesund vs Stavanger – Lay Stavanger @ 12.0 – 4.43 pts 0:0 16:00 cet Norway – Adeccoligaen – Sarpsborg 08 vs Lov Ham – Lay Lov Ham @ 5.7 – 6.64 pts 4:1 16:30 cet Netherlands – Eredivisie – NEC Nijmegen vs Heracles Almelo – Lay Heracles Almelo @ 6.4 – 35.86 pts 0:2 17:00 cet Spain – Liga BBVA – Espanyol vs Xerez – Lay Xerez @ 7.2 – 6.64 pts 0:0 17:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – 1899 Hoffenheim vs Hertha BSC Berlin @ 9.0 – 6.64 pts 5:1 17:30 cet Finland – Veikkausliiga – RoPS Rovaniemi vs Turku PS – Lay RoPS Rovaniemi @ 6.6 – 6.64 pts 0:4 18:00 cet Norway – Tippeligaen – Sandefjord vs Start – Lay Start @ 3.9 – 11.07 pts 1:0 18:00 cet Norway – Tippeligaen – Stabaek vs Stromsgodset – Lay Stromsgodset @ 8.4 – 6.64 pts 3:1 18:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler Pro League – RSC Anderlecht vs Germinal Beerschot – Lay Germinal Beerschot @ 9.0 – 6.64 pts 1:0 21:00 cet France – Ligue 1 – Girondins Bordeaux vs Rennes – Lay Rennes @ 6.8 – 6.64 pts 1:0 Comments: A good day finally, thought they no longer existed. We have to confirm in next days that this is the beginning of our recovery. Bank has increased 56.67 climbing to 821.98, backers’ stakes for Weekdays’ games stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43) Results: Sunday’s strike-rate: 14 win from 15 selections = 93.33% September strike-rate: 153 win from 193 selections = 79.27% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 153 win from 193 selections = 79.27% Profit/(loss) Sunday: 56.67 Bank increase/(loss) Sunday: 7.40% Bank increase/(loss) month to date: (17.80%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (17.80%) Tomorrow's bank: 821.98 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 11.07/6.64/4.43

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 28 19:00 cet Sweden – Allsvenskan – AIK vs Djurgarden – Lay Djurgarden @ 9.0 – 6.64 pts 19:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Landskrona BOIS vs Jönköpings Södra @ 5.4 – 11.07 pts 21:00 cet England – Premier League – Manchester city vs West Ham United – Lay West Ham United @ 9.6 – 4.43 pts

[jl294]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Not sure if you can apply Maria's system toward football. Dont think its compatible. How are you going about your selections?

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? I'm sure that is possible but I need not to do mistakes. I have studied first 150 bets and have eliminated bets that I shouldn't have done, both failed and successful and result is better than expected. Anyway is a long way and I'm doing mistakes yet, no reasons to bet in Landskrona game yesterday night.

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 29 16:00 cet FIFA – U20 World Cup – Korea vs Germany – Lay Korea @ 12.0 – 4.43 pts 18:30 cet UEFA – Champions League – Rubin Kazan vs Inter Milan – Lay Rubin Kazan @ 5.9 – 6.64 pts 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Barnsley vs West Bromwich Albion – Lay Barnsley @ 9.0 – 6.64 pts 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Preston North End vs Reading – Lay Reading @ 4.4 – 11.07 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Sheffield United vs Ipswich Town – Lay Ipswich Town @ 6.2 – 6.64 20:45 cet England – League One – Leeds United vs Carlisle United – Lay Carlisle United @ 12.0 – 4.43pts 20:45 cet England – League Two – Darlington vs Rochdale – Lay Darlingotn @ 4.8 – 11.07 pts 20:45 cet England – League Two – Hereford vs Bournemouth – Lay Hereford @ 4.2 – 11.07 pts 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Fiorentina vs Liverpool – Lay Fiorentina @ 4.1 – 11.07 pts 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Rangers vs Sevilla – Lay Rangers @ 5.0 – 11.07 pts

[jl294]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? The thing that makes this completely different to horses is that there are less scenario's that could occur. For example, Barnsley v WBA, laying Barnsley at 9.0 is madness to be honest because its a football match and as you know in football matches it only takes 1 mistake and the underdog could win 1-0. Your backing that Barnsley wont win at odds of 1.13 - There isnt any value in that. With horses think of how many different scenario's could occur. There could be 12 different runners. A horse at odds of 9.0 to lay would be far safer. Basically, find a horse system to work with and tweak that. This wont work. (sorry)

[Denman]

Re: Do you remember September 2005?

The thing that makes this completely different to horses is that there are less scenario's that could occur. For example, Barnsley v WBA, laying Barnsley at 9.0 is madness to be honest because its a football match and as you know in football matches it only takes 1 mistake and the underdog could win 1-0. Your backing that Barnsley wont win at odds of 1.13 - There isnt any value in that. With horses think of how many different scenario's could occur. There could be 12 different runners. A horse at odds of 9.0 to lay would be far safer. Basically, find a horse system to work with and tweak that. This wont work. (sorry)

I completely disagree. Yes there is only three outcomes in a football match, but the odds on offer for whatever sports it is whether it be football, horse raicng, tennis, cricket or any other sports for the matter it always represents the perceived probability of that event happening. i.e. A football team priced at Evens has got the same chance of winning as a horse priced at Evens has of winning. Well that's what the market says because itdetermines the odds and hence the pereceived probability of an event. With laying you always have to be looking at whether you think the odds on offer represent good value or not i.e. whether the percieved probability of the team winning is greater than you personally think the probability of that team as of winning. Therefore I do believe this staking plan will work using football selections, I am in small profits using a slightly adjusted staking plan to this if you want to check out my thread. The staking plan was designed to try and limit your liability whilst at the same time increasing profits during a good spell. If KeepEarth had been following any other staking plan he'd have be much worse of right now in my opinion. But whatever the staking plan you've got to have a good enough strike rate to ensure profits. I must admit you've posted a few poor selections in my view recentley the West Brom game tonight was a prime example, West Brom coming off the back of a loss in their last game and Barnsley on a high at home after beating Prmeirship side Burnley in the League Cup. I wouldn't have been laying Barnsley at anything more than around 5 - 5.5. Hope you manage to turn this around though Keep Earth, if you do indeed intend to continue. One more tip I'd offer is sticking to leagues you know, well for the majority of your bets at least and only picking the odd one out from leagues your not that knowledgable on.

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Well back again after a few days in Tilt Mode, worst mode to bet so I focused on work these days to rest and return fresh. Not much time now I only post my lays. This weekend can talk about it. France - Ligue 2 Lay Sedan Ardennes @ 7.8 Germany - Bundesliga - Lay Eintracht Frankfurt @ 7.6 Netherlands - Jupiler League - Lay FC Eindhoven @ 11.5 Netherlands - Jupiler League - Lay FC Emmen @ 4.3 Netherlands - Jupiler League - Lay Maastricht @ 5.8 Netherlands - Jupiler League - Lay FC Omniworld @ 9.2 Backers' stake stay in (11.07/6.64/4.43), last day as I have break 35% limit and will change for tomorrow

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Results Update Day 28 to Day 32 19:00 cet Sweden – Allsvenskan – AIK vs Djurgarden – Lay Djurgarden @ 9.0 – 6.64 pts 2:0 19:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Landskrona BOIS vs Jönköpings Södra @ 5.4 – 48.70 pts 2:4 21:00 cet England – Premier League – Manchester city vs West Ham United – Lay West Ham United @ 9.6 – 4.43 pts 3:1 16:00 cet FIFA – U20 World Cup – Korea vs Germany – Lay Korea @ 12.0 – 4.43 pts 1:1 18:30 cet UEFA – Champions League – Rubin Kazan vs Inter Milan – Lay Rubin Kazan @ 5.9 – 6.64 pts 1:1 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Barnsley vs West Bromwich Albion – Lay Barnsley @ 9.0 – 53.12 pts 3:1 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Preston North End vs Reading – Lay Reading @ 4.4 – 37.63 pts 1:2 20:45 cet England – The Championship – Sheffield United vs Ipswich Town – Lay Ipswich Town @ 6.2 – 6.64 3:3 20:45 cet England – League One – Leeds United vs Carlisle United – Lay Carlisle United @ 12.0 – 4.43pts 1:1 20:45 cet England – League Two – Darlington vs Rochdale – Lay Darlingotn @ 4.8 – 11.07 pts 0:2 20:45 cet England – League Two – Hereford vs Bournemouth – Lay Hereford @ 4.2 – 35.42 pts 2:1 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Fiorentina vs Liverpool – Lay Fiorentina @ 4.1 – 34.31 pts 2:0 20:45 cet UEFA – Champions League – Rangers vs Sevilla – Lay Rangers @ 5.0 – 11.07 pts 1:4 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – Cambuur vs FC Eindhoven – Lay FC Eindhoven @ 11.50 – 4.43 pts 3:1 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – FC Emmen vs Agovv Apeldoorn – Lay FC Emmen @ 4.3 – 36.52 pts 3:1 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – FC Zwolle vs Maastricht – Lay Maastricht @ 5.80 – 6.64 pts 2:1 20:00 cet Netherlands – Jupiler League – Helmond Sport vs FC Omniworld – Lay FC Omniworld @ 9.2 – 6.64 pts 2:1 20:30 cet France – Ligue 2 – SM Caen vs Sedan-Ardennes – Lay Sedan-Ardennes @ 7.8 – 6.64 pts 3:1 20:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – FC Schalke 04 vs Eintracht Frankfurt – Lay Eintracht Frankfurt @ 7.6 – 6.64 pts 2:0 Comments: Not too much comments to do. Only hope a better October month. Only one month was enough to break 35% loss limit to change backers’ stakes. It’s just a feeling but seems that everything I post goes wrong. Bank has decreased this week 163.69 breaking 719.38 ratchet limit and dropping to 658.29, backers’ stakes for Saturday’s games are (6.58/3.95/2.63) Results: Weekdays’ strike-rate: 13 win from 19 selections = 68.42% September strike-rate: 161 win from 206 selections = 78.16% October strike-rate: 5 win from 6 selections = 83.33% Overall strike-rate (since 1/9/09): 166 win from 212 selections = 78.30% Profit/(loss) Weekdays: 163.69 Bank increase/(loss) Weedays: (19.91%) Bank increase/(loss) September to date: (33.46%) Bank increase/(loss) since 1/9/09: (34.17%) Tomorrow's bank: 658.29 Backers' stakes for tomorrow's bets: 6.58/3.95/2.63

[Keep Earth]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? Day 33 15:15 cet Austria – Erste Liga – TSV Hartberg vs SC Lustenau – Lay TSV Hartberg @ * 15:30 cet Germany – Bundesliga – Bayer Leverkusen vs 1. FC Nuremberg – Lay 1. FC Nuremberg @ 10.0 – 2.63 pts 16:00 cet England – The Championship – Newcastle United vs Bristol City – Lay Bristol City @ 7.0 – 3.95 pts 16:00 cet Scotland – First Division – Partick Thistle vs Airdrie – Lay Airdrie @ 7.0 – 3.95 pts 16:00 cet Sweden – Superettan – Angelhoms FF vs Trollhattans – Lay Trollhattans @ 7.2 – 3.95 pts 17:45 cet Switzerland – Super League – Neuchatel Xamax vs St. Gallen – Lay St Gallen @ * 18:00 cet Italy – Serie A – Bari vs Catania – Lay Catania @ 4.2 – 6.58 pts 18:00 cet Spain – Liga Adelante – Hercules vs Elche – Lay Elche @ 6.2 – 3.95 pts 20:00 cet Belgium – Jupiler Pro League – Roeselare vs Cercle Brugge – Lay Roeselare @ 3.40 – 6.58 pts 22:15 cet Portugal – Liga Sagres – Sporting Braga vs Vitoria Setubal – Lay Vitoria Setubal @ 15.0 – 2.63 pts

[wiw4]

Would you maybe considering splitting the levels along the lines of: Prices below 2.00: lay to 2% of bank - backer's stake £20 (max liability £20.00) - (may want to leave these bets at 1% as they are more likely to win) Prices from 2.1 to 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £10 (liability £11 to £24.00) Prices from 3.6 to 7.4: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £6 (liability £15.60 - £38.40) Prices from 7.5 to 11: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £4 (liability £26 - £40.00) Prices from 12 to 21: lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £2 (liability £22 - £40.00) Prices from 22 to 46: lay to 0.1% of bank - backer's stake £1 (liability £21 - £45) Prices from 48 to 100: lay to 0.05% of bank - backer's stake £0.50 (liability £23.50 - £49.50) **stakes and liabilities calculated to a £1000 starting bank, they will raise as bank grows.

[cavenecadas]

Re: Do you remember September 2005? K E, I know how it feels to be in a tilt mode. I've been there several times this year. I would like to tell you about this guy from Romania who was in much worse loss but came back and succeded. Whenever I feel discouraged I use to read the story of "chess" . You can come back on a winning streak and achieve greater results than before. His story here : http://www.e-pariuri.ro/forum/viewthread.php?tid=9340&page=50 He started small on betfair, learned the secrets of trading, laying and began to make money. First a few hundred dollars, then grew up fast to 7000 . From page 50 becomes interesting. In July 2008 he layed Federer in a match with Ginepri and lost 5000. On a single bet ! I don't endorse his strategy as it is extremely risky but I am impressed by his will to continue remaining disciplined. Haven't seen too many people like that. After losing the 5000 he ended the season on August 1st 2008 with 500 ( from 7000). After one year , on May 4th 2009 started again with 400 and grew up constantly . His target was 25.000. He reached that in August. If you want to translate his comments go to http://free-translation.imtranslator.net/?loc=es