heret0win Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb wat is going on wid andreev? ive got a fair bit on him lol :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marron Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb ......looks set to lose. Dodig serving for the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinningTipster Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Hi guys, 1 bet for today: VINA DEL MAR FOGNINI TO D DECOUD @ 1.45 on expekt Its always difficult to see what happens in first clay court tournament since most players play their 1st clay court match of the season here in Chile. But in this match Fognini has advantage in terms of clay court results, huge potential and head to head record winning 6-4 6-1 and 6-4 6-3. Decoud lost in qualifying match to Pashanski and was lucky to get into the main draw due to Spadea's withdrawal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb In all seriousness nothing to do with Sambas selection. MASSU @ 1.79 Betfair. :$:$:$:$:$ You're following a winning system :ok :$:$:$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heret0win Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Melzer v. Korolev @ 1.5 Melzer has shown great play at the start of this season,getting some very unexpected victories this year,beatin Fish in Brisbane,on AO beat in 7 sets both Nishikori and A.Beck,so i must back him this time! Korolev failed to qual. in Sydney and Brisbane this year,loosing in straight sets from Dancevic and Anderson as fav.Looked good against out of form Moya in Melbourne,before he faced Federer. H2H is 1-0 in favour of lefty Austrian and Korolev is 3-7 in his last ten matches vs. 'left' opponents! fkkkkn bull shit 4-0 in 2nd. its over. ript up tiket. down $300 for nite . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Needless to say I have backed Melzer also :eek Just gonna scuttle off back to my corner, leave you guys to it, pop up again when it;s the French, and I'll tip 100pt bets on Nadal every round @ 1.03... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heret0win Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Needless to say I have backed Melzer also :eek Just gonna scuttle off back to my corner, leave you guys to it, pop up again when it;s the French, and I'll tip 100pt bets on Nadal every round @ 1.03... hopefully its over in 20 seconds . 6-0 be nice :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb hopefully its over in 20 seconds . 6-0 be nice :) well at least you got one wish :eek lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb fkkkkn bull shit 4-0 in 2nd. its over. ript up tiket. down $300 for nite . :loonThat's loss..sorry!I'm down too,if it means something too u. Loss have brother,wait for him..he could help you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb gulbis beat tursunov @ 1.61 seppi beat zverev @ 1.50 cuevas beat lapentti @ 2.00 bellucci beat brzezicki @ 1.40 massu beat callieri @ 1.66 5 singles one 5 fold @ 11.30 Still havent forgiven gulbis for letting me down in the Aussie open, he cost me a 22/1 9 fold when he lost against andreev 3-2 after being 2 sets down and then being a break up in the 5th.I chose him over sela to beat hanescu too, who duely thrashed him 3-0!! If that would have come off id have had a nice profit from aussie but as it was only gained 12%. Anyway, going follow the tennis this year more seriously and hopefully make some money. I dont completly trust gulbis here and i see now one else taking him on as yet, but i do rate him as a player when hes up for it. Taken him more on feeling that i dont believe tursunov will perform more than gulbis will. cuevas, following advise of mr I. bellucci i saw abit of his exit to lu in aussie and believe he is the better player here although dont know much about brzezicki. massu, write already done seppi, based on how he played in 2 and 3rd sets against federer (7-6) (7-5), he was never going to win but after a 6-1 1st set he composed himself and fought on. I dont think zverev will trouble him here. Like i said, im just getting back into my tennis outside of grandslams so i wouldnt take my picks as gold, i specialise in football and can afford a few losses if it happens that way on tennis while picking my knowledge of the tour up again. All the best:ok fig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Calm down lads, and get it back in Vina del Mar:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb off topic alittle, but im working on a system to lock in profit and/or underdog betting for the french open. can anyone inform me how a bookie minuses the rounded up odds of an event. for example if two players were 50/50 the odds should be 2.00-2.00 but the bookie rounds the % upto 105-120% so offers 1.90-190 How do they price it if its 75/25 (should be 1.50-4.00) do they take the lets say 10% from the favourite, underdog or 5% from each? cheers fig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb bolleli to beat troicki @ 1.80:@ sela to beat ferrer @ 2.62:@ Gabashvili to beat youzhny @2.50:clap 3 singles (10pts each) 1 treble @ 11.81(5 pts):wall Write up reasons tomo when have time sela not long finished lost 6-2 6-0!! bolleli was my fav to win out the 3 so disappinted he didnt come through as for gabashvilli- cheers mr I, at least got some back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb off topic alittle, but im working on a system to lock in profit and/or underdog betting for the french open. can anyone inform me how a bookie minuses the rounded up odds of an event. for example if two players were 50/50 the odds should be 2.00-2.00 but the bookie rounds the % upto 105-120% so offers 1.90-190 How do they price it if its 75/25 (should be 1.50-4.00) do they take the lets say 10% from the favourite, underdog or 5% from each? cheers fig Not a great odds expert but 75/25 should be 1.33/4.00 at 100%, so possibly the bookies will offer something like 1.25/3.50? Why don't you use betfair, so that you can get closer to a 100% book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Sheesh, Sela won the first 2 games!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb off topic alittle, but im working on a system to lock in profit and/or underdog betting for the french open. can anyone inform me how a bookie minuses the rounded up odds of an event. for example if two players were 50/50 the odds should be 2.00-2.00 but the bookie rounds the % upto 105-120% so offers 1.90-190 How do they price it if its 75/25 (should be 1.50-4.00) do they take the lets say 10% from the favourite, underdog or 5% from each? cheers fig My answer would be that it's more complicated than that and you won't be able to do one calculation to work it out. Plus as I'm sure you're aware prices change and this is mostly to do with the weight of money on one side of the market, and the bookies want to have a balanced book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Great Tipping Mr I, particularly on Gabashvili and Cuevas :clap:clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Great Tipping Mr I' date=' particularly on Gabashvili and Cuevas :clap:clap[/quote'] Shame about the others:sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMadrigal Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Grrr, what was wrong with Fognini ?!:@:@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Not a great odds expert but 75/25 should be 1.33/4.00 at 100%' date=' so possibly the bookies will offer something like 1.25/3.50? Why don't you use betfair, so that you can get closer to a 100% book?[/quote'] cheers for reply and correcting my maths! been practising my decimal/% conversion tables too:unsure ill be taking the best odds available pre match for the underdog with the aim of locking in profit once underdog gone set up or break up thru live in play. as anyone had experience of this?is it better to play the underdogs straight ie-kleybanova beat ivanovic, verdasco beat murray, sure dokic was underdog few times and girl who beat v.williams(cant think of name) or lock in profit for smaller gain. suppose what im asking is, how many of the underdogs that take the first set go on to win, if its higher than those that go on to lose then worth just playing an underdog system. am i correct in thinking more underdogs win in womens tennis? fig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb gulbis beat tursunov @ 1.61:nana seppi beat zverev @ 1.50:@ cuevas beat lapentti @ 2.00:nana bellucci beat brzezicki @ 1.40 ? massu beat callieri @ 1.66 ? 5 singles one 5 fold @ 11.30 Still havent forgiven gulbis for letting me down in the Aussie open, he cost me a 22/1 9 fold when he lost against andreev 3-2 after being 2 sets down and then being a break up in the 5th.I chose him over sela to beat hanescu too, who duely thrashed him 3-0!! If that would have come off id have had a nice profit from aussie but as it was only gained 12%. Anyway, going follow the tennis this year more seriously and hopefully make some money. I dont completly trust gulbis here and i see now one else taking him on as yet, but i do rate him as a player when hes up for it. Taken him more on feeling that i dont believe tursunov will perform more than gulbis will. cuevas, following advise of mr I. ( cheers mr I:ok ) bellucci i saw abit of his exit to lu in aussie and believe he is the better player here although dont know much about brzezicki. massu, write already done seppi, based on how he played in 2 and 3rd sets against federer (7-6) (7-5), he was never going to win but after a 6-1 1st set he composed himself and fought on. I dont think zverev will trouble him here. Like i said, im just getting back into my tennis outside of grandslams so i wouldnt take my picks as gold, i specialise in football and can afford a few losses if it happens that way on tennis while picking my knowledge of the tour up again. All the best:ok fig well my seppi logic didnt hold up, 5 fold blown:wall fingers crossed for last two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb KARANUSIC @ 4.00 bet365. The way the Croats have been going this week, this definately looks worth a shot. Karanusic is a decent enough player, and with the crowd behind him he has a decent chance here. Mathieu is the better player, but he can have some very poor losses and I wouldn't fancy backing him at a short price here. GARCIA LOPEZ @ 1.637 Pinnacle. Don't see much in Mayers favour here. Garcia Lopez is the much better player, and got a decent win over Phau in the first round. Mayer beat clay courter Roitman in the first round, but I can't see him having much success here. BECKER @ 1.595 Pinnacle. Becker several levels above van der Merwe here. Becker won a challenger in Germany getting some decent wins on the way. He's had some shocking losing runs but when he gets some confidence up he's a quality player and I'll take him here. Van der Merwe has started the year having a go at the hard court challengers in South America without great success, and I just think he'll struggle against the quality of Becker. Only thing in his favour is playing at home. Will look into other matches tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb ljubicic beat troicki @ 1.58 garcia-lopez beat mayer @ 1.50 vassallo-arguello beat chela @ 2.20 3 single treble @ 5.05 also serra beat cilic 2-0 @ 12.00 serra beat cilic 2-1 @ 10.00 cilic beat serra 2-1 @ 4.00 As long as serra can get a set (first set would be nice) can only gain. Reasons I watched the ljubicic- tsonga match and thought he was quite unlucky, if that second set had gone his way i think hed have gone on to win it. im hoping he can keep his head and come through this. vassallo beat chela is my fav bet and believe a steal, normally id favour chela here who leads h2h 1-0 but he not played much tennis since last french open and lost the first set 6-0 andujar before coming back to win 2-1. Although not 5 sets i cant see chela taking it 2-0 and i think vassallo will have the edge in the 3rd set if it goes to it. as for serra, i believe he can take a set off cilic and prefer him over Mr I's karanusic bet for underdog. Doubt he will win 2-0 but think win 2-1 or lose 2-1 a possibility. BOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figtree Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb also thinking of taking de chanuac beat granollers @ 3.00 can anyone put me off this as dont know much about granollers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keliot Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb also thinking of taking de chanuac beat granollers @ 3.00 can anyone put me off this as dont know much about granollers? There have been some weird results so far but I think an upset is unlikely here. De Chaunac is 31, hasn't done anything at this level and came through qualis by beating two 17 year olds, one match taking 140 mins. Granollers is mainly a claycourter, but has had a decent start to the year in Chennai and the AO and should just have too much for this guy. I'm tempted by the 2-0 but I'll stay away. Plenty of better opportunities will come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb @ figtree Granollers has won only 16 of his 43 matches on hard courts,while De Chaunac has some experience playin on hard,but on lower level. Granollers is #51 in the world and surely will try to win over #253 player in the world on the surface that don't suits much to both of the players.I'll stay away too,not only from this one,but from Johannesburg,today.All games seems tricky,plus chances for rain are big!:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heret0win Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb LJUBICIC Ivan 1.60 Great record, good man. Home Crowd, troicki in form but dodgy when it counts. bank on on ljubicic. KOROLEV Evgeny 1.23 In good form, did well last match. Looked good from the start. looks like a comfy win for him today. MONACO Juan 1.40 This man is a freak, didnt use much energy and has been well rested. expect all big guns to be blazing. GARCIA-LOPEZ Guillermo 1.53 He is going to kill mayer, i know it. cant explain it , just know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Well stone the bleeding crows, Calleri romped it! lol Mr I, what were you doing opposing ME!! :lol :$ Beaten but not bowed, I'll get back the losses, good luck all :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba_SamPa Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb 2009 so far Bets 11 [+1 void] Won 3 Lost 7 Pending 1 Staked £74.98 Returned £49.63 Pending £3.64 P/L -£21.71 Strikerate 30.00% ROI -30.43% Frederico Gil - Rik de Voest Frederico Gil £3.52 @2.420 Pinnacle de Voest, primarily a hard courter, will have the support of the crowd in his tie with Portugese Frederico Gil, who is mainly a clay courter. However Gil took a Challenger on hard in Istanbul last year, and reached the semis of a Challenger in South Africa around this time last year, and at 2.42 appeals as a touch of value in this one. Daniel Gimeno-Traver - Paul Capdeville Over 21 games £5.50 @1.909 Pinnacle 1-1 on the H2H, Capdeville's win coming more recently, both games on clay, and both finished with the loss of 5 games for the victor. Capdeville way exceeded expectation by dumping Schwank out in the first round, whilst Gimeno was at the latter end of a (best of 3) marathon against Martin when his opponent retired. Capdeville should be feeling confident, whilst Gimeno should be hard to beat - I can see each set being a tight one here, hopefully a tiebreak or 2. Even if over in 2 sets the line can still be met. Ivan Ljubicic - Viktor Troicki under 22.5 games £4.90 @2.020 Pinnacle Troicki sunk a couple of bets on here in the first round, by defeating Bolelli, but won't get past home man Ljubicic here. Ljubicic was comfortable against Rochus in the opening round, and holds a 2-1 H2H over Troicki, both the meetings on hard resulting in wins for the Croat in straight sets. Ljubicic was arguably unlucky against JWT in Melbourne, and if on song should dispose of Troicki in straight sets, 6-4 6-3 I fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: ATP Johannesburg/Vina del Mar/Zagreb 2nd-8th Feb Starace v. Monako_over 22.5 @ 1.95 This should be one long and tight match.Monako looked comfortable in the first round vs. Devilder,but i think, it's not going to be that easy for him this time.Starace is good claycounter who looked rock solid in the first round,especially on his serve.Monako leads 2-1 in H2H..,he was priced like this (1.4) in their last meeting in Kitzbuhel final(on clay),where he made comeback after loosing the first set 5-7. Three setter is my call!:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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