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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Right on to tournament 5 for the week and a change of sport as i head off to the crucible for the snooker. My decision to hold fire on naming the target has paid off as we now have someone different after moving from 6th to 5th fav. Tournament 6: World Snooker Championships Target: John Higgins Match schedule: John Higgins v Matthew Stevens(19th Apr 10am) Bet: Lay Higgins @ 1.51 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £5.37) Higgins is the fifth favourite and is avaliable at odds of 14.5 on betfair to win the tournament. Lets hope he doesn't pull it off.:hope

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Right on to tournament 5 for the week and a change of sport as i head off to the crucible for the snooker. My decision to hold fire on naming the target has paid off as we now have someone different after moving from 6th to 5th fav. Tournament 6: World Snooker Championships Target: John Higgins Match schedule: John Higgins v Matthew Stevens(19th Apr 10am) Bet: Lay Higgins @ 1.51:@ 10-5 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £5.37) Higgins is the fifth favourite and is avaliable at odds of 14.5 on betfair to win the tournament. Lets hope he doesn't pull it off.:hope
So Higgins survives a late rally by stevens to take the first round match 10-5 and also signifies an end to my run of first round winners this week. Higgins is now back in action on the Thursday the 24th and takes on either Ryan Day or Michael Judge, So i'll be looking to recoup the £5.37 in lost stakes from this round plus my £10 profit for the tournament. Stakes, odds and info to follow.:ok
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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Sorry Scotty but as you say gotta roll with the system. I am quite wary actually of having higgins as the target coz he's a good player, has won it before and everything needed to win it again. Just got to hope one of the young pups pick him off along the way.

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Re: It's a Knockout!!! While I wait for the snooker to resume I'm off to Monte Carlo to see if I can make a quick profit from the masters series tennis. Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Series Tennis Target: David Ferrer Match: Ferrer v Safin/Malisse Ferrer has a bye for the first round but will face either safin or malisse in the next round. Ferrer won his last tournament in valencia, so hopefully last week's exertions will take it's toll and also he will meet Nadal on route to the final. So looks promising for achieving my profit on this one.

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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Should know who ferrer will be playing in the next round of the monte carlo masters today when malisse and safin finally get on court. But for now details of my 2nd bet in the world snooker championships. Tournament: World Snooker Championships 2nd Round Target: John Higgins Match: Higgins v Ryan Day (Thurs 24th 7pm) Bet: Lay Higgins @ 1.69 Stake: £16.18 (Liability £11.16) to win profit target plus losses from 1st rd. If i'm honest i expect Higgins to come through this round as i believe he'll be too strong for day. But you never know, Day had a pretty solid match in the first round and if he plays to his best and gets a bit of luck, he could possibly pull it off.:notworthy:lol

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Re: It's a Knockout!!! I do like this system, the only problem I can see is if a 5th fav wins the tournament, and if the favourites get knocked out early. Surely the price will shoot down, and the amount you will have to lay on each bet will increase in order to maintain the target profit will shoot up. and if he/she then goes onto win the tournament :puke:sad Could this not mean the end? Wish you the best tho, and long continued success :ok:ok:ok

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GL with Higgins and Ferrer this week :ok
Cheers aldric, think i might need it this week.
I do like this system, the only problem I can see is if a 5th fav wins the tournament, and if the favourites get knocked out early. Surely the price will shoot down, and the amount you will have to lay on each bet will increase in order to maintain the target profit will shoot up. and if he/she then goes onto win the tournament :puke:sad Could this not mean the end? Wish you the best tho, and long continued success :ok:ok:ok
The 5th fav winning the tournament is always a possibility Scotty, as mentioned earlier in the thread by Hodgey. It will happen eventually and that could be the time to discuss further whether i need a insurance bet by backing the 5th fav outright in the beginning to soften the blow. Be interesting to see how many tournaments i can rack up before i do lose the lot though.:ok
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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Safin has overcome malisse in straight sets to set up tomorrow's 2nd round match against ferrer so to recap Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Target: David Ferrer Match: Ferrer v Marat Safin (Wed 23rd 10am) Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 1.59 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £6.21) Having had a quick look at the h2h stats it seems Safin won the ony previous meeting in 3 sets but it was back in 2002 at estoril. The year to date records show safin has won 3 out of 10 so far this season while ferrer has won 16 out of 22. Think i maybe digging in this week to get the winners:lol

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Safin has overcome malisse in straight sets to set up tomorrow's 2nd round match against ferrer so to recap Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Target: David Ferrer Match: Ferrer v Marat Safin (Wed 23rd 10am):sad6-2 6-3 Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 1.59 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £6.21) Having had a quick look at the h2h stats it seems Safin won the ony previous meeting in 3 sets but it was back in 2002 at estoril. The year to date records show safin has won 3 out of 10 so far this season while ferrer has won 16 out of 22. Think i maybe digging in this week to get the winners:lol
Looked a straight forward win for ferrer without too much battle from safin, can't say i'm surprised really. Anyway on to round 3 to recover lost stakes and achieve our profit target.:notworthy Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Tennis 3rd Round Target: David Ferrer Next Match: Ferrer v Tipsarevic Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 1.4 Stake: £17.06 (Liability £6.82) the h2h stats on this one don't look good with ferrer winning their previous encounter in straight sets and only losing 3 games in the entire match. So as always :hope. Higgins resumes tomorrow in the snooker against day so should have a good idea how that one will be going too.
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Good luck again :hope Just curious, as you are doing 2 lay's at the same time if one of them doesn't lose soon will you be able to cover the liability?
I started with a bank of £100 and it's currently up to £150 after previous tournament wins not including the 2 i'm doing at the mo. I've also got £50 which i use for separate bets from this system, which if i need to i will call on to cover any liability's i have. After that mate it's all gone. So once one of the 5th fav's wins or i lose my bank beforehand (which ever comes first) i will then call it a day and try something else. I'd like to get to £200 so i can bank £100 which would give me another go when that eventual 5th fav does win. Hope that doesn't sound too negative, i'm not fooling myself in to thinking there won't be a 5th fav to win a tournament. It will happen, i'm just hoping to get a little run going, make a profit and walk away with at least what i started with, so that i maybe will be able to look at the results make a tweak or two and come back and have another go.:ok
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Cool, just wasn't sure if you could cover the liability if both ended up in the final. Good luck and I hope you get to your £200 quickly and without any pain!!
I might be about to find out as ferrer beat tipsarevic and now faces nadal. The liability will be huge.:rollin
Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Tennis 3rd Round Target: David Ferrer Next Match: Ferrer v Tipsarevic:( 6-4 6-0 Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 1.4 Stake: £17.06 (Liability £6.82) the h2h stats on this one don't look good with ferrer winning their previous encounter in straight sets and only losing 3 games in the entire match. So as always :hope. Higgins resumes tomorrow in the snooker against day so should have a good idea how that one will be going too.
I think we have reached do or die time on this system now. If the next bet loses then it's all over for me. Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Tennis Quarter Finals Target: David Ferrer Next Match: Ferrer v Rafael Nadal Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 7.4 Stake: £17.71 (Liability £113.34:loon) Nadal leads the h2h 4-3, but hasn't won in the last 2. Nadal leads 2-1 on clay and has a better year to date record. I'm praying that tomorrow he makes it 5-3 and 3-1 on clay.:notworthy
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Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Tennis Quarter Finals Target: David Ferrer Next Match: Ferrer v Rafael Nadal Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 7.4 Stake: £17.71 (Liability £113.34:loon) Nadal leads the h2h 4-3, but hasn't won in the last 2. Nadal leads 2-1 on clay and has a better year to date record. I'm praying that tomorrow he makes it 5-3 and 3-1 on clay.:notworthy
Good luck, shouldn't have too many problems the way Nadal has been playing!! Does this show that it is better to lay the 5th favourite in the outright market? What was he to lay in the outright market?
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Good luck, shouldn't have too many problems the way Nadal has been playing!! Does this show that it is better to lay the 5th favourite in the outright market? What was he to lay in the outright market?
Thanks aldric, wasn't sure to be honest seeing as ferrer had beaten nadal in his last 2 games and they were both on clay. To be honest i forgot to keep a track of the outright price on this one. I prefer to do it round by round as you can win your target for minimal outlay where as laying from the beginning means having to shell out around £150 in one go.:ok
Tournament: Monte Carlo Masters Tennis Quarter Finals Target: David Ferrer Next Match: Ferrer v Rafael Nadal:nana:nana 1-6 5-7 Bet: Lay Ferrer @ 7.4 Stake: £17.71 (Liability £113.34:loon) Nadal leads the h2h 4-3, but hasn't won in the last 2. Nadal leads 2-1 on clay and has a better year to date record. I'm praying that tomorrow he makes it 5-3 and 3-1 on clay.:notworthy
Phew!! i'm a relieved man today, Nadal done the business and i recovered my lost stakes whilst also achieving my target profit. Start Bank: £100 Current Bank: £160 P/L: £60 Now for higgins to get knocked out:lol I think if he gets past Ryan Day, which looks likely then it's hendry or Ding Junhui next.
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Should know who ferrer will be playing in the next round of the monte carlo masters today when malisse and safin finally get on court. But for now details of my 2nd bet in the world snooker championships. Tournament: World Snooker Championships 2nd Round Target: John Higgins Match: Higgins v Ryan Day (Thurs 24th 7pm) Bet: Lay Higgins @ 1.69 Stake: £16.18 (Liability £11.16) to win profit target plus losses from 1st rd. If i'm honest i expect Higgins to come through this round as i believe he'll be too strong for day. But you never know, Day had a pretty solid match in the first round and if he plays to his best and gets a bit of luck, he could possibly pull it off.:notworthy:lol
And Higgins is dumped out of the Championship :nana:nana:nana Well done mate
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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Cheers for the comments boys. Going well so far but i fear the winner maybe just around the corner.

Should know who ferrer will be playing in the next round of the monte carlo masters today when malisse and safin finally get on court. But for now details of my 2nd bet in the world snooker championships. Tournament: World Snooker Championships 2nd Round Target: John Higgins Match: Higgins v Ryan Day (Thurs 24th 7pm) 8-13:nana:nana Bet: Lay Higgins @ 1.69 Stake: £16.18 (Liability £11.16) to win profit target plus losses from 1st rd.
Well done that man, Ryan Day finishes off John Higgins to put another £10 in the kitty. Quite surprised that Day came back after being 5-2 down after the first session. But it all counts.;) Overall stats stand:- Start Bank: £100 Current Bank: £170 P/L: £70 Tournaments: 7 Wins: 7 Most Rounds Taken to Achieve Target: 3 Highest Liability: £113.34 So apart from Ferrer getting through the first 2 rounds of the Monte Carlo Masters, then the 5th fav in the outright tournament betting so far hasn't lasted more than 2 rounds. You watch the next one will win now.:lol Back with some more tomorrow when there are 4 more tennis tournaments due to start next week and if prices and liquidity allow i may even double the bank but as always thats a big MAY.:ok
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Cheers HooLooVoo:ok Can we expect anymore GH's from you soon??
Actually yes. Would be nice though to come up with something that meets most (all?) of these criterias:
  • New system that hasn't been done to death (i.e. NOT 1+ goals, funny as they may be) :)
  • Built on discipline, but more days with selections than days without
  • Profitable in the long run (yeah!) :nana

A pile of contradictions? Maybe. Time will tell. C U in a new thread soon! :loon

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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Talking about previous threads, whatever happened to your target one turnlux?? where you were trying to pull a certain profit every week. Seems whatever system you use, you always pull a decent profit out!! :clap Even if it is at the expense of Mr Higgins :tongue2

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Talking about previous threads, whatever happened to your target one turnlux?? where you were trying to pull a certain profit every week. Seems whatever system you use, you always pull a decent profit out!! :clap Even if it is at the expense of Mr Higgins :tongue2
Yeah i ended that thread coz i wanted to try something else as was getting a bit bored with it after 3 weeks. I think it showed that with careful staking and good selections it was possible though. I'm going to keep this one running though as i'm happy with the way it's progressing and i'm also looking at starting another one soon to run along side this one to do with goals in the 2nd half compared to the halt time score.
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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Time to gear up for next weeks tennis tournaments. There are scheduled to be four tournaments this week but as always will have to wait a bit closer to the start time for the womens tennis to be confirmed, so for now will just put up the mens. Tournament 1: BMW Open Germany Target: Evgeny Korolev (Outright Odds 16/1) First Match: Korolev v Phillip Petzschner (Tues 29th 11am) Bet: Lay Korolev @ 1.7 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £7.37) Tournament 2: Open Sabadell Atlantico Target: Mario Ancic (Outright Odds 9/1) First Match: Ancic v Mischa Zverev (Mon 28th 10.45am) Bet: Lay Ancic @ 1.31 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £3.26) As i mentioned previously, I could double my bank this week if everything goes well, so as always:hope Be back with the womens tennis updates when the liquidity improves and prices have settled down.

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Re: It's a Knockout!!! As usual there is no liquidity in the WTA markets outright, which means no inclination to who is 5th fav. This is becoming a regular occurence, what i may consider doing is laying the 5th seed in the tournaments

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Re: It's a Knockout!!! Right going to implement a rule change with regards to 5th fav's on the tennis. From this point on i will be laying the 5th SEED rather than the 5th fav as there is no liquidity in the outright markets to getting an idea on who the target is in womens tennis. Thought also this would represent a fairer way of showing a true 5th fav in both sets of tournaments. Tournament 3: Grand Prix De Sar (Morrocco) Target: Timea Baczinsky First Match: Baczinsky v Nadia Lalami (Tues 29th 11am) Bet: Lay Baczinsky @ 1.11 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £1.16) Tournament 4: ECM Prague Open Target: Karin Knapp First Match: Knapp v Jill Craybas (Tues 29th 10am) Bet: Lay Knapp @ 1.42 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £4.42) Open Bets: 4 Total Liability: £15.21

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Tournament 2: Open Sabadell Atlantico Target: Mario Ancic (Outright Odds 9/1) First Match: Ancic v Mischa Zverev (Mon 28th 10.45am) Bet: Lay Ancic @ 1.31:$ 6-1 6-0 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £3.26)
Easy win for ancic, never looked in doubt, so we roll on to round 2 and more confidence we may get through this one. Tournament 2: Open Sabadell Atlantico Target: Mario Ancic Second Match: Ancic v Andy Murray (Wed 30th 9.30am) Bet: Lay Ancic @ 2.96 Stake: £13.96 (Liability £27.36)
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Tournament 4: ECM Prague Open Target: Karin Knapp First Match: Knapp v Jill Craybas (Tues 29th 10am) Bet: Lay Knapp @ 1.42:nana:nana 4-6 2-6 Stake: £10.53 (Liability £4.42)
Quietly confident on this one as craybas had the better head 2 head and also year to date record. £10 target achieved.:ok
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