Horses For courses

[kompressaur]

Decided to stay up all night as i have to sign on at 10am:( Been having a wee look at the Ascot card and thought i'd share this that i blantantly stole from another site. Ascot SL5 7JX TEL: 01344 876876 Right handed. Flat course is stiff and a golloping track. Draw advantage: when going is good or faster, low numbers slightly favoured on the straight. Effect of the draw. The books say that the draw only becomes an issue these days, when the ground is riding on the soft side, in which case the high numbers have an advantage. On the round course, when the going rides soft, runners invariably tack over towards the outside rail down the side of the track, as that part of the course is partially covered by over hanging trees and the ground is definitely at its quickest, there. High numbers are said to be favoured in big fields on the round course. My own observations: At the last 4 or 5 day meeting, on fast ground,and on the straight course, every jockey wanted to be drawn low, and the vast majority of results proved that to be the case, until a fantastic run by NEW SEEKER from a high draw changed peoples views somewhat. I expect low numbers to have the edge on the straight course, but in the 30 runner race, I would also expect good runs from the horses drawn very high. In sprint races, previous C&D winners do very well. In big handicap races, favourites priced at 9/2+ do very well. Note Northern raiders who have run reasonably at Haydock in the recent past. In handicaps, if a horse is being well touted as favourite on the strength of a good top speed figure, it is worth opposing. ASCOT is a good course for the front runner, particularly in sprints. It is only when you get up to a distance of 2 miles, that the hold up horses fair the best. National Hunt course has slight uphill finish and is a good test of stamina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ayr KA8 0JE TEL:01292 264179 Left handed. Flat course undulates slightly, easy turns suitable for gallopers in races up to 7 furlongs, low numbers favoured -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bangor LL13 0DA TEL:01978 780323 Left handed. National Hunt course is non undulating with tight turns -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bath TEL O1225 424609 Left Handed. Downland course on fast draining ground is galloping track considered by many professionals to be unfair.Low numbers favoured up to a mile. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beverley HU17 8QZ TEL: 0142 867488 Right handed. Tough uphill finish puts an emphasis on stamina, stiff. High numbers favoured up to a mile -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brighton BN2 9XZ TEL 01273 603580 Left handed. Undulating downland course, mainly downhill over the final mile. Low numbers favoured up to a mile. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carlisle CA2 4TS TEL: 01228 591827 Right handed. Flat course is undulating but uphill over the last 5 furlongs makes it a stiff test. High numbers favoured up to a mile. National Hunt is also stiff, uphill over the last 5 furlongs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cartmel TEL 01539 536340 This National Hunt course is undulating with tight turns and suitable for handy types of horse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Catterick DL10 7PE TEL:01748 811478 Left handed. Dual.Undulating . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheltenham GL50 4SH TEL: 01242 513014 Left handed.Undulating National Hunt course it has easy turns but has a very stiff uphill finish. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chepstow NP6 5YH TEL 01291 622260 Left Handed.The smallest and tightest flat course in Britain, is virtually on the turn throughout. Horses must be able to act on the course. Low numbers highly favoured in sprints. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chester CH1 2LY TEL 01244 323170 Left Handed.The smallest and tightest flat course in Britain, is virtually on the turn throughout. Horses must be able to act on the course. Low numbers highly favoured in sprints. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doncaster DN2 6BB TEL 01302 320066 Left handed. Flat course has easy turns and suits galloping horses. Draw not significant since drainage. The National hunt course is also flat and galloping. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Epsom KT18 5LQ TEL: 01372 726311 Left handed. Flat course undulates, horse must be able to gallop downhill. Low numbers favoured exept when soft ground favours high numbers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exeter EX6 7XS TEL: 01392 832 599 Right handed. Undulating National Hunt course which has tight turns and long straights, suits handy types -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fakenham NR21 7NY TEL 01328 862388 Left handed. This National Hunt course is tight, only 1 1/4 miles round and undulates. Handy types prosper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fontwell BN18 0SX TEL 01243 543335 Figure of 8. This National Hunt course has tight turns and is suitable for handy animals -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folkestone RH7 6PQ TEL: 01342 834800 Right Handed. Flat course undulates slightly and has tight turns.Low numbers favoured on straight course. National Hunt course also undulates has tight turns but easy fences. ------------------------------------------------------- Goodwood PO18 0PS TEL: 01243 755022 Right handed. Flat. This course undulates but has easy turns and suits galloping horses GOODWOOD is a sharp right handed, undulating track with a long run in. Effect of the draw: High numbers are favoured on the round course, particularly over 7f and 1m, except in very wet conditions when jockeys tend to track over to the stands side. The sprint course is all downhill and one of the fastest sprint courses in the country. In smaller field sprints, low numbers tend to have the edge but in large field sprints (Stewards Cup) high numbers have a big advantage. In 18+ runner sprint races, look out for the top 2-3 drawn horses heading for the far rail. It is important that the well drawn horses are not slow away, and give away their advantage, because they then have to either sit and suffer on the rail and hope that a gap develops or they have to circle the field giving away masses of ground. The course turns back on itself, favouring jockeys who know their way round the course very well. It also favours Course and Distance Winners but not necessarily in sprints. Horses placed at Newmarket, quite often go on to win at Goodwood. Favourites have a good record in non handicap races. In handicap races, form doesn't tend to transfer to the track. Front runners do well at Goodwood up to a mile but from a 1m4f and upwards, hold up horses tend to do the best. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hamilton ML3 0DZ TEL:01698 283806 Right handed. This course undulates and suits handy well balanced horses. High numbers favoured in races of 5-6 furlongs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haydock WA12 0HQ TEL 01942 725963 Left handed. Flat course is flat and has wide turns. Low numbers are favoured in races of 6 furlongs to a mile. National Hunt course is also flat and suitable for galloping horses the fences are refuted to be very stiff. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hereford HR4 9QU TEL 01981 250436 Right handed. National Hunt. Non undulating with easily negotiated turns -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hexham NE46 4PF TEL:01434 606881 Left handed.National Hunt. This course is undulating and has a stiff uphill finish which places an emphasis on stamina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Huntingdon PE18 8NN TEL 01480 453373 Right Handed. National Hunt. Level course with wide easy turns which suits long striding gallopers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kelso TEL: 01668 281611 Left handed. National Hunt. Undulating fairly tight course with a long run in -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kempton Park TW16 5AQ TEL 01932 782292 Right handed. Dual. Flat course is just that. Sharp bend into straight. High numbers preferred in races coming around this bend. National Hunt course is fairly tight -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leicester LE2 4AL TEL 0116 271 6515 Right handed. Dual.Flat course undulates but has a stiff uphill finish but has wide turns and favours galloping horses. National Hunt course favours animals with stamina due to that finish. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lingfield Park RH7 6PQ TEL:01342 834800 Left Handed. Dual. Turf and All Weather.Flat course undulates with slight downhill into the straight. Low numbers favoured up to 1 mile. National Hunt course is undulating -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Liverpool/Aintree L9 5AS TEL 0151 523 2600 Left handed.National Hunt. The Mildmay Course is conventional but tight. The Grand National Course is one of the toughest jumping tests in the world and galloping -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ludlow SY8 2BT TEL: 01981 250052 Right Handed. National Hunt. Flat course criss-crossed by 2 roads. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Market Rasen LN8 3EA TEL 01673 843434 Right handed. National Hunt is flat with sharp turns and favours handy types. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MUSSELBURGH EH21 7RG TEL:0131 665 2859 Right handed. Dual. Sharp flat track, suits moderate speedy types. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newbury RG14 7NZ TEL: 01635 40015 Left handed.Dual. Flat course is ultra flat, wide and suits gallopers. High numbers favoured up to a mile. National Hunt course is flat with easy turns and stiff fences -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newcastle NE3 5HP TEL:0191 236 2020 Left handed.Dual. Flat course has stiff uphill finish. National Hunt course is galloping with stiff fences and an uphill finish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newmarket CB8 0TG TEL:01638 663482 Right handed.Flat. Both courses (Rowley & July) are golloping with testing uphill finishes. No draw advantage. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton Abbot TQ12 3AF TEL 01626 53235 Left Handed. National Hunt. Flat with tight turns -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nottingham NG2 4BE TEL:0115 958 0620 Left Handed. Flat. Favours galloping horses. Draw favours high numbers in sprints. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perth PH2 6BB TEL 01738 551597 Right handed.National Hunt. Course is flat with easy turns and a long run in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plumpton TEL 01273 890383 Left handed. National Hunt. Undulating with short turns favours course specialists. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pontefract WF8 1LE TEL 01977 703224 Left handed. Flat. Undulates and is longest course in the UK. Has a sharp finishing bend and last 1/2 mile uphill. Draw favours low numbers in sprints. PONTEFRACT: This course is a 2m2f oval left handed, galloping-undulating track with an uphill finish. Effect of the draw: Low numbers are best on good or faster ground, since being drawn high in fields of 12 or more, horses are either forced wide or have to use up early energy to get a good position. If they drop in behind, they risk traffic problems. Low numbers are not only best in sprints, but longer distances also. When the ground is soft/heavy, high numbers are favoured in sprints, as the horses then tend to come down the stands rail. In sprints, the best position is to lead or be prominent, because not many horses come through from the rear to win. In longer distance races, this changes to hold up horses who tend to do best. In fact the longer the distance, the more it suits hold up horses. The course favours C&D winners in longer races. Thirsk form translates well at Pontefract. In small field handicap races, C&D winners do really well. In Non Handicap races, form horses and favourites suffer a poor fate -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Redcar TS10 2BY TEL: 01642 484068 Left handed. Flat. Flat throughout favours gaolloping type. High numbers favoured on straight course. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ripon HG4 1UG TEL 01765 602156 Rightt handed.Flat. Sharp course with a tight turn. Low numbers favoured in sprints. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Salisbury SP2 8PN TEL: 01722 326461 Right handed. Flat. Uphill finishing stiff course. Draw favours high numbers in races up to 7 furlongs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandown KT10 9AJ TEL 01372 463072 Right handed.Dual. Flat course is uphill for last 3/4 mile and is a stiff test for galloping horses. National Hunt course is stiff with testing fences. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sedgefield TS21 2HW TEL 01740 621925 Left Handed. National Hunt. Undulating with sharp bends and a long run in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Southwell NG25 0TS TEL: 01636 814481 Left Handed. Dual. All weather flat racing. National Hunt on turf is flat with sharp bends. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stratford CV37 9SE TEL: 01789 267949 Left handed.National Hunt.This course is flat with sharp turns. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taunton TA3 7BL TEL 01823 337172 Right handed. National Hunt. Flat course with a sharp run in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thirsk YO7 1QL TEL: 01845 522276 Left handed. Flat. Has tight turns but doesn't undulate. High numbers favoured in sprints, low numbers in races of 7 furlongs to a mile. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Towcester NN12 7HS TEL:01327 353414 Right Handed. National Hunt. Undulating with a very stiff uphill finish. Tough test of stamina. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uttoxeter ST14 8BD TEL:01869 562561 Left Handed. National Hunt. Slight undulations with sweeping turns suiting long striding horse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warwick CV34 6HN TEL: 01926 491553 Left handed.Dual.Flat course is tight and suits handy types. Low numbers favoured. National Hunt course is on the turn throughout. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wetherby LS22 5EJ TEL: 01937 582035 Left handed. National Hunt. This course is flat with easy turns. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wincanton BA9 8BJ TEL 01963 32344 Right handed. National Hunt. Mainly flat course with wide easy turns. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windsor SL4 5JJ TEL: 01753 865234 Figure of 8.Dual. Flat course is flat with easy turns. High numbers favoured in sprints. National Hunt course is sharp and constantly turning. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wolverhampton WV6 0PE TEL:01902 421421 Left handed.Allweather Flat with easy turns. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worcester WR1 3EJ TEL 01905 25364 Left handed. National Hunt. Flat with easy fences and long straight. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yarmouth NR30 4AU TEL 01493 842527 Left handed. Flat. Very flat with tight turns. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- York YO23 1EX TEL: 01904 620911 Left handed. Flat. Very flat with wide turns, ultra galloping track with no draw advantage.

[Guest Gordon Gecho]

Re: Horses For courses Excellent info Komp, I`ll make it a sticky Do you have a picture of this Beverley who needs plenty of staminar and an uphill finish?

[kompressaur]

stiffish bev I've never met her Gordon but her phone number is above. Give her a call ;) I'll try to add to the above in a bit. I always think of Goodwood and Kempton as being good for front runners. Wetherby being like Cheltenham and Wincanton fences being a piece of piss. Feel free to add folks to the track data-base.

[Timmy Tour]

Re: stiffish bev Great stuff Komp and cheers GG for putting the sticky on. :)

[Guest MC Roller]

Re: stiffish bev Good idea komp. How about adding helpful links about all things racing to the thread. Would be ideal for newcomers to have a look through. Will post some links later.

[Guest MC Roller]

Re: stiffish bev www.racing-network.co.uk/ www.racenews.co.uk/index.htm www.teletext.com/racing www.racingpost.com/horses www.sportinglife.com/racing/news www.bettingzone.co.uk www.adrianmassey.co.uk www.timesonline.co.uk/Horses sport.guardian.co.uk/horseracing

[kompressaur]

Irish Courses BALLINROBE (R-H) Tight 9f oval - run in 2.5f. Draw adv High at 5f + 6f BELLEWSTOWN (L-H) Sharp 9f oval - run in 3f uphill. Draw adv Low in sprints CLONMEL (R-H) Stiff 10f oval - run in 2.5f. Only race over 1m2f + 1m4f CORK (R-H) Flat round 10f inner 12f outer circuit. Draw adv Low in sprints, High big fields 7f CURRAGH (R-H) Stiff 2m Horseshoe - run in 3f uphill. Draw adv depends on course and stall pos DOWNPATRICK (R-H) Tight Undulating 11f round. uphill finish. Shortest distance 1m3f DOWN ROYAL (R-H) Galloping 2m almost square. uphill finish. DUNDALK (L-H) Undulating 10f round - run in 2.5f uphill. No bias FAIRYHOUSE (R-H) Sharp 1m6f round - run in 3f slight uphill. Draw adv High up to 1m Thanks to whoever originally wrote the above ;)

[Guest emmemms]

Re: Irish Courses any info for the jumps?