Slapdash Systems 2007

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 One more today: Waterloo Corner 5.00 Newcastle (4.5/4.7 20/21) 20/1 William Hill

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Waterloo Corner 5.00 Newcastle (4.5/4.7 20/21) 20/1 William Hill lost

Definites: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1136.90 P/L: +136.90 (Win -1125.67, place +1262.57) Total staked: 6440 W/P/L: 26/115/181 Yield: +2.13% [Almosts: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1562.52 P/L: +562.52 (Win +63.50, place +499.02) Total staked: 3440 W/P/L: 18/57/97 Yield: +16.35%]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Nothing today.

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Boxclever 5.05 Uttoxeter (3.75/3.8 15/15.5) 16/1 William Hill [big John Macarty 5.05 Uttoxeter (5.1/5.7 25/27) 25/1 Ladbrokes]

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Boxclever 5.05 Uttoxeter (3.75/3.8 15/15.5) 16/1 William Hill lost [big John Macarty 5.05 Uttoxeter (5.1/5.7 25/27) 25/1 Ladbrokes] lost

Definites: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1116.90 P/L: +116.90 (Win -1135.67, place +1252.57) Total staked: 6460 W/P/L: 26/115/182 Yield: +1.81% [Almosts: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1542.52 P/L: +542.52 (Win +53.50, place +489.02) Total staked: 3460 W/P/L: 18/57/98 Yield: +15.68%]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Bidable 4.45 Chepstow (1.99/2.08 6.8/7) 6/1 SportingBet Spirit of Adjisa 4.45 Chepstow (3.3/3.95 16/18) 16/1 Betfred

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Bidable 4.45 Chepstow (1.99/2.08 6.8/7) 6/1 SportingBet lost Spirit of Adjisa 4.45 Chepstow (3.3/3.95 16/18) 16/1 Betfred lost

Definites: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1076.90 P/L: +76.90 (Win -1155.67, place +1232.57) Total staked: 6500 W/P/L: 26/115/184 Yield: +1.18% [Almosts: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1542.52 P/L: +542.52 (Win +53.50, place +489.02) Total staked: 3460 W/P/L: 18/57/98 Yield: +15.68%]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Barbary Boy 2.20 Sandown (2.92/3.2 15.5/17) 14/1 SportingBet Karmei 2.20 Sandown (3.2/3.35 17.5/18) 16/1 SportingBet

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Barbary Boy 2.20 Sandown (2.92/3.2 15.5/17) 14/1 SportingBet lost Karmei 2.20 Sandown (3.2/3.35 17.5/18) 16/1 SportingBet lost

Definites: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1036.90 P/L: +36.90 (Win -1175.67, place +1212.57) Total staked: 6540 W/P/L: 26/115/186 Yield: +0.56% [Almosts: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1542.52 P/L: +542.52 (Win +53.50, place +489.02) Total staked: 3460 W/P/L: 18/57/98 Yield: +15.68%]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Joy in the Guild 2.00 Warwick (2.32/2.42 12/13) 10/1 VCBet My Legal Eagle 2.00 Warwick (2.08/2.1 9.4/9.8) 8/1 VCBet Strategic Mover 4.40 Goodwood (1.28/1.39 4.4/4.5) SP [scorpion 3.35 Curragh (1.39/1.42 5/5.3) 7/2 VCBet] [bellamy Cay 3.35 Curragh (2.9/3 24/25) SP]

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Joy in the Guild 2.00 Warwick (2.32/2.42 12/13) 10/1 VCBet lost My Legal Eagle 2.00 Warwick (2.08/2.1 9.4/9.8) 8/1 VCBet placed Strategic Mover 4.40 Goodwood (1.28/1.39 4.4/4.5) SP lost [scorpion 3.35 Curragh (1.39/1.42 5/5.3) 7/2 VCBet] placed [bellamy Cay 3.35 Curragh (2.9/3 24/25) SP] lost

Definites: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1002.90 P/L: +2.90 (Win -1205.67, place +1208.57) Total staked: 6600 W/P/L: 26/116/188 Yield: +0.04% [Almosts: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1519.52 P/L: +519.52 (Win +33.50, place +486.02) Total staked: 3500 W/P/L: 18/58/99 Yield: +14.84%]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Famous Name 3.10 Curragh (2.68/2.88 13.5/14) 12/1 Betfred Sultan Fontenaille 2.45 Stratford (1.32/1.33 4/4.1) 3/1 SportingBet Craven 2.45 Stratford (2.26/2.28 14/15.5) 10/1 Bet365 Willit 2.25 Bath (2.56/2.8 16/17.5) 14/1 Bet365 [Toasted Special 2.25 Bath (1.4/1.47 5.2/5.7) 7/2 Betfred] [Lawyer Des Ormeaux 2.45 Stratford (1.67/1.98 8.8/9.6) 7/1 Betfred]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Cassiara 4.40 Redcar (1.08/1.09 2.92/3) 7/4 SportingBet [First Valentini 4.40 Redcar (2.66/2.96 36/80) 25/1 Bet365]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Carnival Dream 2.00 Thirsk (1.8/1.85 7.2/7.6) 6/1 Bet365 Doric Dream 2.00 Thirsk (2.64/2.82 11/13) 11/1 Bet365

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Famous Name 3.10 Curragh (2.68/2.88 13.5/14) 12/1 Betfred lost Sultan Fontenaille 2.45 Stratford (1.32/1.33 4/4.1) 3/1 SportingBet lost Craven 2.45 Stratford (2.26/2.28 14/15.5) 10/1 Bet365 placed Willit 2.25 Bath (2.56/2.8 16/17.5) 14/1 Bet365 lost [Toasted Special 2.25 Bath (1.4/1.47 5.2/5.7) 7/2 Betfred] placed [Lawyer Des Ormeaux 2.45 Stratford (1.67/1.98 8.8/9.6) 7/1 Betfred] placed

Cassiara 4.40 Redcar (1.08/1.09 2.92/3) 7/4 SportingBet placed [First Valentini 4.40 Redcar (2.66/2.96 36/80) 25/1 Bet365] lost

Carnival Dream 2.00 Thirsk (1.8/1.85 7.2/7.6) 6/1 Bet365 lost Doric Dream 2.00 Thirsk (2.64/2.82 11/13) 11/1 Bet365 lost

Definites: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 906.40 P/L: -93.60 (Win -1275.67, place +1182.07) Total staked: 6740 W/P/L: 26/118/193 Yield: -1.39% [Almosts: Starting bank: 1000 Current bank: 1500.52 P/L: +500.52 (Win +3.50, place +497.02) Total staked: 3560 W/P/L: 18/59/100 Yield: +14.06%]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 [Larkwing 2.05 Listowel (1.61/1.73 11.5/85) SP]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Wraith 5.00 Pontefract (1.9/1.95 8.2/8.4) 7/1 Bet365

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Vortex 2.10 Newbury (2.12/2.34 9.8/10) 17/2 Betdirect Levera 2.10 Newbury (2.54/2.7 15/16) 12/1 Bet365

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Summer Dancer 5.25 Newbury (2.64/3.15 13.5/14) 14/1 Ladbrokes Kyle 5.25 Newbury (2.8/4.5 18.5/20) 18/1 SportingBet Regal Quest 5.25 Newbury (4.2/4.6 19.5/21) 20/1 William Hill Tawzeea 2.25 Catterick (1.15/1.17 2.78/2.9) 7/4 Ladbrokes

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Urban Warrior 2.00 Plumpton (1.43/1.47 4.4/4.5) 100/30 SportingBet Correy 2.00 Plumpton (2.06/2.12 10.5/11.5) SP Electric Baloo 2.50 Uttoxeter (3.1/3.15 14/17.5) 14/1 Bet365 Panzer 4.20 Uttoxeter (4.5/4.9 20/22) 20/1 Betfred Secret's Out 5.20 Uttoxeter (2.92/3.05 12/13) 12/1 Betfred Beautiful Night 5.20 Uttoxeter (3.5/3.75 15/16) 16/1 Bet365

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 [La Rosa Nostra 2.50 Kempton (1.45/1.53 4.7/4.9) 7/2 Bet365]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Nothing today.

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Mangham 2.10 Redcar (1.87/1.96 8.4/9.4) 7/1 Betfred Shaftesbury 2.55 Goodwood (2.56/2.58 10.5/11.5) 10/1 Betfred Funny Thing 2.30 Perth (2.8/2.98 18/20) 16/1 Stan James [Jabal Tariq 2.10 Redcar (1.61/1.72 7.6/7.8) 5/1 Stan James] [balyan 2.30 Perth (1.53/1.63 8.6/9) 11/2 SportingBet]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Nice to see someone trying to find value with systems Slapdash. I read a book about betting (do not know if I am allowed to say what) but it said races that have one or two short priced horses have favourable percentages for the each way punter. This system seems a good way of using this to the punters advantage. I do have a couple of questions. You do sometimes use SP's. How do you know the bet is value if you do not know the price you are taking? Is it not better to take the price if you consider it value? After all, if other good judges think it is good value and take the price it is likely to shorten. Very large handicaps are poor value on each way terms. A 16 runner handicap is a good each way race being 1/4 the odds for finishing in the first 1/4 (4) of the field. A 32 runner handicap only 1/4 odds for finishing in the first 1/8th (4) of the field. The each way part of the bet may be fair value but the better value is to be had in win only bets in such races. Do you find as good results in the say 20+ runner handicaps as you do with smaller fields? Do not wish to appear negative Slapdash. The principals are excellant. Well done. Ginge

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You do sometimes use SP's. How do you know the bet is value if you do not know the price you are taking? Is it not better to take the price if you consider it value? After all, if other good judges think it is good value and take the price it is likely to shorten.

I guess the answer is that I don't know that the SP will be value. In some kinds of race (e.g., the large handicaps) I will always take the early price, as experience has shown that SP is almost always lower than the early price for the horses that the system picks. But in the races with one or two short-priced favourites, there seemed to be little difference on average in the returns at SP or at the best early price, so I decide on a case by case basis which price to take. Of course, I sometimes get it wrong, but I'm pretty sure I do a bit better than if I always took the EP or always took SP.

Very large handicaps are poor value on each way terms. A 16 runner handicap is a good each way race being 1/4 the odds for finishing in the first 1/4 (4) of the field. A 32 runner handicap only 1/4 odds for finishing in the first 1/8th (4) of the field. The each way part of the bet may be fair value but the better value is to be had in win only bets in such races. Do you find as good results in the say 20+ runner handicaps as you do with smaller fields?

I agree that in general there's less EW value to be found in the larger fields, (but it does depend on individual circumstances). The system tends to give selections a lot less often in the very large handicaps, for that reason, presumably. But when it does give selections in the very large fields, I've not noticed that they do worse than the ones in the smaller "large handicaps".

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Nice to see someone trying to find value with systems Slapdash. I read a book about betting (do not know if I am allowed to say what) but it said races that have one or two short priced horses have favourable percentages for the each way punter. This system seems a good way of using this to the punters advantage. I do have a couple of questions. You do sometimes use SP's. How do you know the bet is value if you do not know the price you are taking? Is it not better to take the price if you consider it value? After all, if other good judges think it is good value and take the price it is likely to shorten. Very large handicaps are poor value on each way terms. A 16 runner handicap is a good each way race being 1/4 the odds for finishing in the first 1/4 (4) of the field. A 32 runner handicap only 1/4 odds for finishing in the first 1/8th (4) of the field. The each way part of the bet may be fair value but the better value is to be had in win only bets in such races. Do you find as good results in the say 20+ runner handicaps as you do with smaller fields? Do not wish to appear negative Slapdash. The principals are excellant. Well done. Ginge

If you have a long odds-ons shot and a clear second favourite, Then the second favourite will always equal value if compared to the odds on the exchanges. In these races it just a matter of choice to take SP or a price. This is the oldest system(method) in the book and will usually show a profit over any given period.

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 [Glittering Prize 1.40 Haydock (1.91/1.96 9/9.2) SP]

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 Thanks Mate. I see now.

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Re: Slapdash Systems 2007 I'm away for a few days, so nothing more from me until Wednesday.