Valiant23 Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Sacramento have lost 4 ATS (Orlando w1) Sacramento Kings(+6) @ Orlando Magic @ 1.97 Pinnacle Utah have lost 4 AND Cleveland have won 2 ATS Utah Jazz(+5.5) @ Cleveland Cavaliers @ 2.00 Pinnacle Boston have won 3 AND San Antonio have lost 2 ATS Boston Celtics @ San Antonio Spurs(-13) @ 1.95 Pinnacle Denver have won 3 ATS (Phoenix L1) Phoenix Suns(-2) @ Denver Nuggets @ 1.99 Pinnacle 4 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Sacramento have lost 4 ATS (Orlando w1) Sacramento Kings(+6) @ Orlando Magic @ 1.97 Pinnacle :D Utah have lost 4 AND Cleveland have won 2 ATS Utah Jazz(+5.5) @ Cleveland Cavaliers @ 2.00 Pinnacle :( Boston have won 3 AND San Antonio have lost 2 ATS Boston Celtics @ San Antonio Spurs(-13) @ 1.95 Pinnacle :( Denver have won 3 ATS (Phoenix L1) Phoenix Suns(-2) @ Denver Nuggets @ 1.99 Pinnacle :( 4 x 10pt bets :hope 1 winner 3 losers 40pts staked 19.7pts returned Total staked:3700 Number of bets:370 Winning bets:192 Losing bets:178 Push bets:10 Strike rate:51.89% Current bank:1149.81 Profit (or Loss):149.81 Yield:4.05% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Dallas have lost 3 AND Detroit have won 5 ATS Dallas Mavericks(-4.5) @ Detroit Pistons @ 1.89 Pinnacle LA Clippers have won 3 ATS (NJ L1) LA Clippers @ New Jersey Nets(-5) @ 1.94 Pinnacle Miami Heat have won 3 ATS (Orlando L1) Orlando Magic (+7.5) @ Miami Heat @ 2.99 Pinnacle 3 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Dallas have lost 3 AND Detroit have won 5 ATS Dallas Mavericks(-4.5) @ Detroit Pistons @ 1.89 Pinnacle :( LA Clippers have won 3 ATS (NJ L1) LA Clippers @ New Jersey Nets(-5) @ 1.94 Pinnacle :D Miami Heat have won 3 ATS (Orlando L1) Orlando Magic (+7.5) @ Miami Heat @ 1.99 Pinnacle :D 3 x 10pt bets :hope 2 winners 1 loser 30pts staked 39.30pts returned Total staked:3730 Number of bets:373 Winning bets:194 Losing bets:179 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.01% Current bank:1159.11 Profit (or Loss):159.11 Yield:4.27% =========================================== 1 game tonight Boston have won 4 ATS (New Orleans L1) Boston Celics @ new Orleans Hornets(-5) @ 1.94 Coral 10ps staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) 1 game tonight Boston have won 4 ATS (New Orleans L1) Boston Celics @ new Orleans Hornets(-5) @ 1.94 Coral 10ps staked :hope 1 winner 10pts staked 19.4pts returned Total staked:3740 Number of bets:374 Winning bets:195 Losing bets:179 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.14% Current bank:1168.51 Profit (or Loss):168.51 Yield:4.51% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Denver have won 4 ATS (New Jersey w1) Denver Nuggets @ New Jersey Nets(+1.5) @ 2.10 Ladbrokes Cleveland have won 10 ATS (Charlotte w1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ Charlotte Bobcats(+7) @ 1.96 Canbet Dallas have lost 4 (Nw York w1) Dallas Mavericks(-8.5) @ New York Knicks @ 1.95 Pinnacle Detroit have won 6 ATS (Philly L1) Philadelphia 76ers(+8) @ Detroit Pistons @ 1.95 Bet365 Chicago have lost 3 ATS (LA L1) LA Clippers @ Chicago Bulls(-8) @ 1.84 Pinnacle Golden State have won 3 AND Utah have lost 5 ATS GS Warriors @ Utah Jazz(-7.5) @ 1.97 Betfair Washington have won 3 ATS (Portland L1) Washington Wizards @ Portland Trailblazers(+3.5) @ 2.00 Betfair 7 x 10pt bets = 70pts staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Denver have won 4 ATS (New Jersey w1) Denver Nuggets @ New Jersey Nets(+1.5) @ 2.10 Ladbrokes :( Cleveland have won 10 ATS (Charlotte w1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ Charlotte Bobcats(+7) @ 1.96 Canbet :D Dallas have lost 4 (Nw York w1) Dallas Mavericks(-8.5) @ New York Knicks @ 1.95 Pinnacle :D Detroit have won 6 ATS (Philly L1) Philadelphia 76ers(+8) @ Detroit Pistons @ 1.95 Bet365 :( Chicago have lost 3 ATS (LA L1) LA Clippers @ Chicago Bulls(-8) @ 1.84 Pinnacle :( Golden State have won 3 AND Utah have lost 5 ATS GS Warriors @ Utah Jazz(-7.5) @ 1.97 Betfair :( Washington have won 3 ATS (Portland L1) Washington Wizards @ Portland Trailblazers(+3.5) @ 2.00 Betfair :D 7 x 10pt bets = 70pts staked :hope 3 winners 4 losers 70pts staked 59.10pts returned Total staked:3810 Number of bets:381 Winning bets:198 Losing bets:183 Push bets:10 Strike rate:51.97% Current bank:1157.61 Profit (or Loss):157.61 Yield:4.14% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Just the one tonight; San Antonio have lost 3 ATS AND Indiana have won 2 Indiana Pacers @ SA Spurs(-14) @ 1.94 Canbet 1 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Just the one tonight; San Antonio have lost 3 ATS AND Indiana have won 2 Indiana Pacers @ SA Spurs(-14) @ 1.94 Canbet :D 1 x 10pt bets :hope 1 winner 10pts staked 19.4pts returned Total staked:3820 Number of bets:382 Winning bets:199 Losing bets:183 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.09% Current bank:1167.01 Profit (or Loss):167.01 Yield:4.37% Bit late updating this and obviously I've missed quite a few games due to other commitments. :sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Nice winner yesterday Val. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Cheers mate, it was last week though. Just been too busy to keep updated. :$ New York Knicks have lost 4 ATS (Cleveland w1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ NY Knicks(+4) @ 1.92 Expekt Milwaukee have lost 4 ATS (Dallas w1) Milwaukee Bucks(+14) @ Dallas Mavericks @ 1.91 Pinnacle LA Clippers have won 4 ATS (Houston w1) Houston Rockets(-2.5) @ LA Clippers @ 1.95 Betfair 3 x 10pt bets=30pts staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Cheers mate, it was last week though. Just been too busy to keep updated. :$ New York Knicks have lost 4 ATS (Cleveland w1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ NY Knicks(+4) @ 1.92 Expekt :D Milwaukee have lost 4 ATS (Dallas w1) Milwaukee Bucks(+14) @ Dallas Mavericks @ 1.91 Pinnacle :D LA Clippers have won 4 ATS (Houston w1) Houston Rockets(-2.5) @ LA Clippers @ 1.95 Betfair :D 3 x 10pt bets=30pts staked :hope 3 winners 0 loers 30pts staked 57.80pts returned Total staked:3850 Number of bets:385 Winning bets:202 Losing bets:183 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.47% Current bank:1194.81 Profit (or Loss):194.81 Yield:5.06% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Good to see the winners coming back Val. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'll say mate! :loon Indiana have lost 3 ATS (Orlando L1) Indiana(+6.5) @ Orlando Magic @ 2.02 Pinnacle Utah have lost 10 (ten) ATS (S.A. Spurs L1) Utah jazz(+8) @ San antonio Spurs @ 1.93 Pinnacle Houston have won 2 AND LA Lakers have lost 2 ATS Houston Rockets(-2.5) @ LA Lakers @ 1.92 Coral 3 x 10pt bets=30pts staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomica Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Mistake, I suppose. LA Lakers (+2,5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'll say mate! :loon Indiana have lost 3 ATS (Orlando L1) Indiana(+6.5) @ Orlando Magic @ 2.02 Pinnacle :( Utah have lost 10 (ten) ATS (S.A. Spurs L1) Utah jazz(+8) @ San antonio Spurs @ 1.93 Pinnacle :( Houston have won 2 AND LA Lakers have lost 2 ATS Houston Rockets(-2.5) @ LA Lakers @ 1.92 Coral - see below 3 x 10pt bets=30pts staked :hope Mistake' date=' I suppose. LA Lakers (+2,5) :(.[/quote'] Yeah mate sorry 0 winners 3 losers 30 pts staled 0 returned Total staked:3880 Number of bets:388 Winning bets:202 Losing bets:186 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.06% Current bank:1164.81 Profit (or Loss):164.81 Yield:4.25% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimany Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Just noticed this thread, nice profit so far Val :ok Unlucky with the previous losing streak, im sure you'll bounce right back ;) I was thinking of an idea while reading through the thread. Regarding games where there might be 2 ATS teams playing each other, one with a winning streak and the other with a losing streak. If playing in different games you'd be backing one and laying the other. What do you think of a double stake in such games? Thought the bigger stake could be profitable due to both teams contributing to your selection. Anyway good luck for future bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) And as soon as I say well done that happens. I would be interested to see what could happen with a slightly more aggressive staking plan Val. After you have backed a set of losers is it possible to bounce back by increasing your stake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. B Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Hi Val, Why not use another stake strategy, this season, if I recall correctly, only Utah gave you a hard time. BangB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Gents thanks for the input... I'll answer after this. :ok Indiana have lost 4 ATS (San Antonio W1) SAn Antonio Spurs @ Indiana(+8.5) @ 1.99 Pinnacle Utah have lost 573 ATS (11 really lol) AND Houston have won 3 Utah Jazz(+5) @ Houston Rockets @ 1.98 Pinnacle Boston have won 3 ATS (Cleveland W1) Cleveland Cavaliers(-5.5) @ Boston Celtics @ 1.99 Coral Denver have lost 2 AND Seattle have won 3 ATS Denver Nuggets(-3.5) @ Seattle Supersonics @ 1.96 Pinnacle LA Lakers have lost 3 ATS (Sacramento L1) Sacramento kings @ LA Lakers(-6) @ 1.94 canbet 5 x 10pt bets = 50pts staked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimany Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Utah have lost 573 ATS (11 really lol) AND Houston have won 3 Utah Jazz(+5) @ Houston Rockets @ 1.98 Pinnacle They won :eek Didnt even need the handicap :loon Was watching the scores live on this, they came back from ~10 points twice i think, nice pick :ok:ok:ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimany Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) 4 outta 5 mate, well done :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Cheers Jimany :ok Gents thanks for the input... I'll answer after this. :ok Indiana have lost 4 ATS (San Antonio W1) SAn Antonio Spurs @ Indiana(+8.5) @ 1.99 Pinnacle :D Utah have lost 573 ATS (11 really lol) AND Houston have won 3 Utah Jazz(+5) @ Houston Rockets @ 1.98 Pinnacle :D Boston have won 3 ATS (Cleveland W1) Cleveland Cavaliers(-5.5) @ Boston Celtics @ 1.99 Coral :( Denver have lost 2 AND Seattle have won 3 ATS Denver Nuggets(-3.5) @ Seattle Supersonics @ 1.96 Pinnacle :D LA Lakers have lost 3 ATS (Sacramento L1) Sacramento kings @ LA Lakers(-6) @ 1.94 canbet :D 5 x 10pt bets = 50pts staked 4 winners 1 loser 50pts staked 78.70pts returned Total staked:3930 Number of bets:393 Winning bets:206 Losing bets:187 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.42% (break even s.r. 52.6%) Current bank:1193.51 Profit (or Loss):193.51 Yield:4.92% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Right Just noticed this thread, nice profit so far Val :ok Unlucky with the previous losing streak, im sure you'll bounce right back ;) I was thinking of an idea while reading through the thread. Regarding games where there might be 2 ATS teams playing each other, one with a winning streak and the other with a losing streak. If playing in different games you'd be backing one and laying the other. What do you think of a double stake in such games? Thought the bigger stake could be profitable due to both teams contributing to your selection. Anyway good luck for future bets :hope I must be honest in that I agree it's logical to do that however when I audited my figures winning vs losing streaks weren't exactly outstanding in term of strike rate. When I had my losing streak just after the all star game I did lose heart with it but I am perservering with the strategy because I think there are some nuggets (sorry bout the pun) in all of this. And as soon as I say well done that happens. I would be interested to see what could happen with a slightly more aggressive staking plan Val. After you have backed a set of losers is it possible to bounce back by increasing your stake? I agree that some kind of progressive staking plan would prove beneficial Staffy, but as with any progressive staking plan you increase the risk of ruin which, had I persevered with it during the barren spell I'm uite sure would have killed this off. If you have a look at this thread here; http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41361& you'll see the input I received from McGiin, George and Slapdash and that I felt the best way would be to link my stake to the strike rate. Certainly when the NBA season is over there is plenty to get my teeth into, but even so don't forget this is an NFL system which I'm trying on NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Just to add that there is a third sport where I believe this will be profitable. I tested this sytem on last year's results in this sport and discovered a healthy strike rate of 60% which should be enough to provide a decent profit if replicated this season. I won't ay which sport but I am certain it will be the first system ran on it (defintely on PL). ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Thanks for the answers Andy. Good luck if you run on the other sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 3, 2007 Author Share Posted April 3, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Your welcome mate and cheers. It's nice to have the input. :ok New Orleans have won 2 AND Milwaukee have lost 2 ATS New Orleans Hornets @ Milwaukee Bucks(+1.5) @ 2.00 Pinnacle. 1 x 10pt bet :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Your welcome mate and cheers. It's nice to have the input. :ok New Orleans have won 2 AND Milwaukee have lost 2 ATS New Orleans Hornets @ Milwaukee Bucks(+1.5) @ 2.00 Pinnacle. 1 x 10pt bet :hope 1 loser Total staked:3940 Number of bets:394 Winning bets:206 Losing bets:188 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.28% (break even s.r. 52.6%) Current bank:1183.51 Profit (or Loss):183.51 Yield:4.66% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Toronto have won 4 ATS (Orlando L1) Toronto Raptors @ Orlando Magic(-5) @ 1.97 Coral Boston have won 4 AND Milwaukee have lost 3 ATS Boston Celtics @ Milwaukee Bucks(-6.5) @ 2.02 Betfair Seattle have lost 2 AND New Orlean have won 3 ATS Seattle Supersonics(+7.5) @ New Orleans Saints @ 1.98 @ Pinnacle Portland have lost 3 ATS (Utah w1) Utah Jazz @ Portland Trailblazers(+8) @ 2.00 PremierBet 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Toronto have won 4 ATS (Orlando L1) Toronto Raptors @ Orlando Magic(-5) @ 1.97 Coral :( Boston have won 4 AND Milwaukee have lost 3 ATS Boston Celtics @ Milwaukee Bucks(-6.5) @ 2.02 Betfair :D Seattle have lost 2 AND New Orlean have won 3 ATS Seattle Supersonics(+7.5) @ New Orleans Saints @ 1.98 @ Pinnacle :( Portland have lost 3 ATS (Utah w1) Utah Jazz @ Portland Trailblazers(+8) @ 2.00 PremierBet :D 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope 2 winners 2 losers 40pts staked 40.40pts returned Total staked:3980 Number of bets:398 Winning bets:208 Losing bets:190 Push bets:10 Strike rate:52.26% (break even s.r. 52.6%) Current bank:1183.91 Profit (or Loss):183.91 Yield:4.62% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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