Valiant23 Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Thanks Dices. I understand if you see better prices and want to share. :ok As regards how I settle them it has to be when I post them rather than when it starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLeg Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I think that it is too dangerous to take the Spurs on this one... NJ can easily win it with +7 in the bag... It was reported that Jason Kidd was out with back spasms thats why handicap had risen. Anyway 3 out of 4.... OUTSTANDING! :cheers BTW when does NFL start? I can't wait:nana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalyo Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) once again congrats :clap:clap:clap. My self i am doing the old system 4W2L on the day. I bet all of the games that fit in 2W/2L ATS. Case i am making large wagers .I figure i better of to break even on the day or lose some juce , then take a loss . Today i did the same thing with NCAA BK rated teams ONLY, at the end of the day 2W/0L . Tex Tech +13.5 and Virg Tech +15 came through Bouth of them won SU.:lolLOL. I wonder if this system can be applyed to NCCA BK(rated teams only/rated against unrated/rated vs rated) .For now i am gonna keep the truck to my self . I will post the #'s later next week . GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) [url=http://www.statfox.com/nba/gamematchup.asp] New Jersey have won 3 ATS (San Antonio L2) San Antonio Spurs(-7) @ New Jersey Nets @ 1.9 10bet :D Dallas have won 3 ATS (Milwaukee have L2) Dallas Mavericks @ Milwaukee Bucks(+9) @ 1.9 Bet365 :D New Orleans have won 3 ATS (Memphis L1) new Orleans @ Memphis Grizlies(+1) @ 1.92 Expekt :D New York have won 3 ATS (LA Lakers L1) New York Knicks @ LA Lakers(-6) @ 1.9 BetDirect :( 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope I've highlighted Memphis because personally if the team I'm backing is a 'dog of 2 pts or less I prefer taking the money line for the better price, but under the conditions of this thread its the 'spread' result thats important. 3 winners 1 loser 40pts staked 57.2pts returned Total staked:2920 Number of bets:292 Winning bets:159 Losing bets:124 Push bets:9 Strike rate:54.45% Current bank:1274.70 Profit (or Loss):274.70 Yield:9.41% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Charlotte have lost 4 ATS (chicago L1) Chicago Bulls @ Charlotte Bobcats(+2) @ 1.92 Expekt Denver have won 3 (Minnesota L2) Denver Nuggets @ Minnesota Timberwolves(-3.5) @ 1.92 Coral Cleveland have won 3 (utah W1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ Utah Jazz(-5) @ 1.95 Bet365 New York have won 4 (Golden State L2) NY Nicks @ Golden State Warriors(-3.5) @ 2.00 Betfair 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriental_express Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Hi valiant for tonights games 14th feb I counted 6 games where teams had 3 WINS or LOSS Are you using your past records to work out the different spreads due to different bookies ? The 2 extra teams i have are toronto and sacramento. is it a good idea to strictly use the ATS results posted on statfox only or is it best to use past records aswell ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Charlotte have lost 4 ATS (chicago L1) Chicago Bulls @ Charlotte Bobcats(+2) @ 1.92 Expekt Denver have won 3 (Minnesota L2) Denver Nuggets @ Minnesota Timberwolves(-3.5) @ 1.92 Coral Cleveland have won 3 (utah W1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ Utah Jazz(-5) @ 1.95 Bet365 New York have won 4 (Golden State L2) NY Nicks @ Golden State Warriors(-3.5) @ 2.00 Betfair 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope Thanks for all the nice picks :ok This is a really profitable thread, thanks a lot :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Hi valiant for tonights games 14th feb I counted 6 games where teams had 3 WINS or LOSS Are you using your past records to work out the different spreads due to different bookies ? The 2 extra teams i have are toronto and sacramento. is it a good idea to strictly use the ATS results posted on statfox only or is it best to use past records aswell ?Hi Oriental, according to my records Toronto have (from most recent); W W L W W W W. Statfox had the L down as a Push. See this post here; http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showpost.php?p=718507&postcount=236 and Sacramento Lost in the 2nd game against Seattle, http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showpost.php?p=717350&postcount=223 Thanks for all the nice picks :ok This is a really profitable thread, thanks a lot :notworthy :D :D :D You're welcome Slapshot. :ok Charlotte have lost 4 ATS (chicago L1) Chicago Bulls @ Charlotte Bobcats(+2) @ 1.92 Expekt :D Denver have won 3 (Minnesota L2) Denver Nuggets @ Minnesota Timberwolves(-3.5) @ 1.92 Coral :D Cleveland have won 3 (utah W1) Cleveland Cavaliers @ Utah Jazz(-5) @ 1.95 Bet365 :( New York have won 4 (Golden State L2) NY Nicks @ Golden State Warriors(-3.5) @ 2.00 Betfair :D 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope 3 winners 1 loser 40pts staked 58.4pts returned Total staked:2960 Number of bets:296 Winning bets:162 Losing bets:125 Push bets:9 Strike rate:54.73% Current bank:1293.10 Profit (or Loss):293.10 Yield:9.90% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'm putting this up early as I'm away from this afternoon until Saturday. The NBA have thoughtfully decided to arrange the all star game for this weekend so this is the last pick until Tuesday nights games. Cleveland Cavaliers have won 4 ATS(inc. last night) (LA Lakers L2) Cleveland cavaliers @ LA Lakers(-6) @ 1.9 Stan James 1 x 10pt bet. :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'm putting this up early as I'm away from this afternoon until Saturday. The NBA have thoughtfully decided to arrange the all star game for this weekend so this is the last pick until Tuesday nights games. Cleveland Cavaliers have won 4 ATS(inc. last night) (LA Lakers L2) Cleveland cavaliers @ LA Lakers(-6) @ 1.9 Stan James 1 x 10pt bet. :hope Even though I thought it was a winner all weekend it lost. :eyes :$ Total staked:2970 Number of bets:297 Winning bets:162 Losing bets:126 Push bets:9 Strike rate:54.55% Current bank:1283.10 Profit (or Loss):283.10 Yield:9.53% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriental_express Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) If i got it right, tonights games are Atlanta +6 Pheonix -13 La Lakers -8.5 gotta wait for valiant to confirm of course :nana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Cheers Oriental - spot on though. ;) San Antonio Spurs have won 3 ATS (Atlanta L1) San Antonio Spurs @ Atlanta Hawks(+7) @ 1.95 Pinnacle Boston Celtics have won 3 ATS (Phoenix W1) Boston Celtics @ Phoenix Suns(-13) @ 2.00 Pinnacle LA Lakers have lost 3 ATS (Portland W1) Portland Trailblazers @ LA Lakers(-9) @ 1.95 Pinnacle A couple of things; Firstly, thanks to the previous poster for highlighting Pinnacle's value, and I'm sorry for my harsh words. I have been educated. :$ :ok Secondly, there is one other match that should be included I feel, and I'm going to. It is; Miami Heat @ Houston Rockets(-3) @ 2.03 Pinnacle Miami have won 2 ATS and Houston have lost 2 ATS* The reason I have included this game is that when I did the audit and decided to discount 2 game streaks I did not separate the games where streaks are opposing each other, and if I remember correctly the W2 vs L2 games haven't been bad for our profit/strike rate. I'll include this one tonight and check my spreadsheet for the figures for W2 and L2 vs the opposing streak. I hope this is clear enough. So 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) San Antonio Spurs have won 3 ATS (Atlanta L1) San Antonio Spurs @ Atlanta Hawks(+7) @ 1.95 Pinnacle PUSH Boston Celtics have won 3 ATS (Phoenix W1) Boston Celtics @ Phoenix Suns(-13) @ 2.00 Pinnacle :( LA Lakers have lost 3 ATS (Portland W1) Portland Trailblazers @ LA Lakers(-9) @ 1.95 Pinnacle :( Miami Heat @ Houston Rockets(-3) @ 2.03 Pinnacle Miami have won 2 ATS and Houston have lost 2 ATS* :D 4 x 10pt bets=40pts staked :hope 1 winners 2 loser 1 push 40pts staked 30.30pts returned Total staked:3010 Number of bets:301 Winning bets:163 Losing bets:128 Push bets:10 Strike rate:54.15% Current bank:1273.40 Profit (or Loss):273.40 Yield:9.08% ======================================================== Sacramento have lost 2 and Washington have won 2 ATS Sacramento Kings(+5) @ Washington Wizards @ 1.96 @ Pinnacle Cleveland have won 6 ATS (Chicago W1) Chiacgo Bulls(+3) @ Cleveland Cavaliers @ 1.95 Pinnacle 2 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriental_express Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) i make it today 23rd PHILADELPHIA NEW JERSEY NEW ORLEANS LA LAKERS there might one game where there is a push or so ? hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Sacramento have lost 2 and Washington have won 2 ATS Sacramento Kings(+5) @ Washington Wizards @ 1.96 @ Pinnacle Cleveland have won 6 ATS (Chicago W1) Chiacgo Bulls(+3) @ Cleveland Cavaliers @ 1.95 Pinnacle 2 x 10pt bets :hope 2 winners 0 losers 20pts staked 39.10pts returned Total staked:3030 Number of bets:303 Winning bets:165 Losing bets:128 Push bets:10 Strike rate:54.45% Current bank:1292.50 Profit (or Loss):292.50 Yield:9.65% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Nice work Val Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Nice work Val Cheers mate. Charlotte have won 3 ATS (Philly w1) Philadelphia 76ers(+4) @ Charlotte Bobcats @ 1.9 Bet365 New Jersey have lost 3 ATS (Sacramento w1) Sacramento Kings @ New Jersey Nets(-3.5) @ 1.94 Pinnacle Seattle have won 3 ATS (NO w1) Seattle Suprsonics @ New Orleans Hornets(-5) @ 2.07 Pinnacle Boston have won 4 and the LA Lakers have lost 4 ATS Boston Celtics @ LA Lakers(-7.5) @ 1.90 @ Pinnacle 4 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Cheers mate. Charlotte have won 3 ATS (Philly w1) Philadelphia 76ers(+4) @ Charlotte Bobcats @ 1.9 Bet365 :( New Jersey have lost 3 ATS (Sacramento w1) Sacramento Kings @ New Jersey Nets(-3.5) @ 1.94 Pinnacle :D Seattle have won 3 ATS (NO w1) Seattle Suprsonics @ New Orleans Hornets(-5) @ 2.07 Pinnacle :( Boston have won 4 and the LA Lakers have lost 4 ATS Boston Celtics @ LA Lakers(-7.5) @ 1.90 @ Pinnacle :D 4 x 10pt bets :hope 2 winners 2 losers 40pts staked 38.40pts returned Total staked:3070 Number of bets:307 Winning bets:167 Losing bets:130 Push bets:10 Strike rate:54.40% Current bank:1290.90 Profit (or Loss):290.90 Yield:9.48% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) LA Clippers lost 4 ATS (Golden State L1) Golden State @ LA Clippers(-5) @ 1.94 Pinnacle Charlotte have won 4 ATS (Toronto w1) Toronto Raptors(-3) @ Charlotte Bobcats @ 1.99 Pinnacle Seattle have won 4 ATS San Antonio L1) Seattle Supersonics @ San Antonio Spurs(-10) @ 1.98 Pinnacle Denver have lost 3 ATS (Dallas L1) Denver Nuggets(+10) @ Dallas Mavericks @ 1.99 Pinnacle 4 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) LA Clippers lost 4 ATS (Golden State L1) Golden State @ LA Clippers(-5) @ 1.94 Pinnacle :D Charlotte have won 4 ATS (Toronto w1) Toronto Raptors(-3) @ Charlotte Bobcats @ 1.99 Pinnacle :D Seattle have won 4 ATS San Antonio L1) Seattle Supersonics @ San Antonio Spurs(-10) @ 1.98 Pinnacle :D Denver have lost 3 ATS (Dallas L1) Denver Nuggets(+10) @ Dallas Mavericks @ 1.99 Pinnacle :( 4 x 10pt bets :hope 3 winners 1 loser 40pts staked 59.91pts returned Total staked:3110 Number of bets:311 Winning bets:170 Losing bets:131 Push bets:10 Strike rate:54.66% Current bank:1310.81 Profit (or Loss):310.81 Yield:9.99% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) A couple of nearlies so I've only one tonight Orlando have lost 3 ATS (houston l1) Houston Rockets @ Orlando Magic(+2) @ 1.99* *The money line is 2.160 right now which I personally prefer but for the system I'll be taking the ATS price. 1 x 10pt bet :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Superb again mate, keep up the good work. 3 winners 1 loser 40pts staked 59.91pts returned Total staked:3110 Number of bets:311 Winning bets:170 Losing bets:131 Push bets:10 Strike rate:54.66% Current bank:1310.81 Profit (or Loss):310.81 Yield:9.99% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriental_express Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Using statfox Ive managed to make it Detriot - chicago won 3 ats orlando - orlando loss 3 ats minnesota - minnesota loss 3 ats ? I guess your basing your games on previous records. Do you think its a good idea to strictly use statfox to make a game play ? A couple of nearlies so I've only one tonight Orlando have lost 3 ATS (houston l1) Houston Rockets @ Orlando Magic(+2) @ 1.99* *The money line is 2.160 right now which I personally prefer but for the system I'll be taking the ATS price. 1 x 10pt bet :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'm trying Staffy. I'm saving up for a Dogo Argentino puppy :lol ;) Using statfox Ive managed to make it Detriot - chicago won 3 ats orlando - orlando loss 3 ats minnesota - minnesota loss 3 ats ? I guess your basing your games on previous records. Do you think its a good idea to strictly use statfox to make a game play ? Sorry mate I've only just seen this. Detroit and Minnesota are my 'nearlies' they're not picks because the teams they are playing are on the same streak. Chicago have won 3 but Detroit have won 2 Minnesota have lost 3 but Washington have lost 2. Now under the old system they wouldn't have been picks, and I did accidentally choose 1 game that had 2 teams on the same streak since the change but I can't see how I can choose theses games because really you expect both Chicago/Detroit to lose and Minny/Washington to win. I do use statfox but if I notice there streaks are different I go back through this thread and see if there is a discrepency between the line they quoted and the line I took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) A couple of nearlies so I've only one tonight Orlando have lost 3 ATS (houston l1) Houston Rockets @ Orlando Magic(+2) @ 1.99* *The money line is 2.160 right now which I personally prefer but for the system I'll be taking the ATS price. 1 x 10pt bet :hope 1 loser 10pts staked 0pts returned Total staked:3120 Number of bets:312 Winning bets:170 Losing bets:132 Push bets:10 Strike rate:54.49% Current bank:1300.81 Profit (or Loss):300.81 Yield:9.64% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomica Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'm trying to manage my statistic (because different times) and have one problem (at least) - how many points is true value. Explanation - yesterday afternoon Covers has Atlanta +9; few hours later it's 8.5. First is push, second is loss/win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLH Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) I'm trying to manage my statistic (because different times) and have one problem (at least) - how many points is true value. Explanation - yesterday afternoon Covers has Atlanta +9; few hours later it's 8.5. First is push' date=' second is loss/win?[/quote'] I would say around 8.75 :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriental_express Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) This is one of my problems aswell, but im trying to use the system based on statfox strictly, so just 3w or 3l. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) Well.... Personally I try to avoid the .5pt spreads because that obviously guarantees a win or a loss for the book so whenever possible I will try and take half a point on the spread. If they are big favourites and giving a lot of points (say 10.5) then I will try and move it in to 10. If they're small (say 4.5) I'm happy enough to take it out to 5. I just use the opposite principle with underdogs. New York have lost 3 ATS (Miami w2) Miami Heat @ NY Nicks(-3) @ 1.94 Coral Denver have lost 4 ATS (Memphis w2) Denver Nuggets(-2) @ Memphis Grizzlies @ 1.93 Coral Orlando have lost 4 and Chicago have won 4 ATS Orlando Magic(+7) @ chicago Bulls @ 1.90 Pinnacle 3 x 10pt bets :hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalyo Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Re: Contrary System (US Sports based) good $core mate :ok. 3W/0L System works like a charm . GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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