THE % MAN Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 As from Thursday this week,the first day of the TURF season I will be putting up various stats and system selections that have shown success in the past and these will include AGE,GOING, TRAINERS, DISTANCE and the time of the YEAR and much more. Some systems will be explained in full but some will only give the bare details as I wish to keep them to myself and the odd one may not be mine but will have done well in the past.Some of the systems will be updates of systems by me that are already on the forum and they will stay in those threads but with slight adjustments for the TURF season. From Thursday until the end of April will be taking a close look at Fahay,Gosden,Morrison.A.Perret,Mills(had three winners last week) and B Hills and a few more who do well in certain races and courses at this time of year.This thread will be updated the night before when possable and on the day at weekends.The 1st update will be Wend night 22nd March. THE % MAN :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 :ok looking forward to it %Man, i had a great flat season last year finishing in credit & will open a new thread when the season starts. i. too am a stats man, looking at draw advantage, horses for courses, jockey/trainer ratios etc GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Has I've said before bowles10 your a man who works on similar ideas to my own but as the seasons gets going mine will be more system ideas and it will be great to see how we get on and hope we both show some rewards for all our efforts. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Great Stuff, I've only recently been watching your systems, and my interest is ever increasing. Managed to tag along with the last few days on "The Perfect System" and was well impressed! EDIT=> "The Perfect System" thread is credited to ONEDUNME, I got it mixed with one of %MAN's many great systems! Look forward to seeing what you've got 'in the bag' for this season... ZuluWarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 ZuluWarrior can't hold my hand up to THE PERFECT SYSTEM and someone whose had over 100000 hits must know what he's doing. But I'm sure some of the ones that will be put on this thread will have some success and hope you take a look from time to time. Their will be 2 systems put up for the start of the TURF SEASON and various others systems as the season goes along.Also take a look at my threads on the system & stratagies page as their are some updates on there to. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Opps, Got my lines crossed there, sorry %MAN! (The Perfect System thread is credited to ONEDUNME, TO ODM - sorry for my mix up, all credit too you for that system!) Of course I will still keep an eye on the threads for your new systems %MAN. V interested. ZuluWarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZuluWarrior Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 I meant to mention "The % Man. Aw Fav System" and "Only idiots @ me system", 2 of many %MAN systems that I've only recently enjoyed following... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Thanks mate It's great when you get feed back from others who use the Forum and like I said before it was the 1st of Feb before I really started with those threads and missed a lot of the jump season. As for THE IDIOTS AND ME SYSTEM December would have done me proud but thats life.Also the weather this year, must have had the longest cold spell for a long time. I think you might like the ones for the TURF SEASON and take a look at the AW system as thats being updated for the flat and should throw up a lot more qualifiers but will stay under that thread. If you ever have any queeries just let me know and I will do my best to help. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 To save me a bit of time on WEND NIGHT decided to put up the 2 systems that will be used at the start of the flat (TURF ONLY) System 1 HANDICAP FAVS AND CL/STAKES FAVS The basis of this system is to back the fav only when its last run was between 41 and 60 days only and this may not seem logical but for some reason performs well and when ridden by a top jockey even more so. System 2 MORE NEVER RUN THAN RUNNERS. This system is not one of mine but I've improved it and is very good for this time of year and as had a 50% s/rate for last 2 years, 2005 13winners from 25 races in April with SPs at up to 5/1. The basis of this system is to look at races were more horses have not run before than have. Then we select the horse with the shortest tissue price from the Racing Post that has run before providing it is not above 5/1 or the one in the bookies at the off. Also these horses are worth considering when doing the placepot as the ones that get beat a few get a place. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Rafferty would qualify for the 5.10 at Southwell on Friday if FAV 41-60 DAYS SYSTEM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Rafferty would qualify for the 5.10 at Southwell on Friday if FAV 41-60 DAYS SYSTEM. For anybody who likes following systems on a daily basis and uses Adrian Massey's selection I would take a look at the systems I've put up in the Thread Massey Fans His Selections in the Systems & Strategy part of the forum but you will have to find the selections yourself but the full stats to do this are provided. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 The Horse Selected Today Was Not The Fav So No Bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Sat 25th March A system 2 selection today SPOOF DANCER 2.15 RED must 5/1 or less. selections for both systems will be 1pt win at all times Any other selections on this thread will be as stated at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Sat 25th March A system 2 selection today SPOOF DANCER 2.15 RED must 5/1 or less. selections for both systems will be 1pt win at all times Any other selections on this thread will be as stated at the time. Won at 5/2 :ok bets 1 won 1 bank +2.5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 :ok Spoof Master :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Although this race is an AW race it should work for the 2.10 Kempton URBAN WARRIOR OR SAD TIMES 1pt win on the one that is the shortest SP but must be 5/1 or less or no bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Although this race is an AW race it should work for the 2.10 Kempton URBAN WARRIOR OR SAD TIMES 1pt win on the one that is the shortest SP but must be 5/1 or less or no bet Also the 4.10 K as to horses that ran 47 days ago and there must be a chance 1 will be FAV and even though an aw race the system should still work FAJR 4.10K FAREWELL GIFT 4.10K If not fav no bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Urban Warrior 2nd(beaten Head)11/10 Fajr 2ND (beaten 1length) 9/2 -2pts today 3 bets 1w bank +.5pts Tuesdays bet Zafonical Storm 2.10f system 1 must be 5/1 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 WON TODAY AT 4/6 4BETS 2WON Bank +1.16pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 WON TODAY AT 4/6 4BETS 2WON Bank +1.16pts NO QUALIFIERS TOMORROW :zzz May be of interest Mrs C Dunnett as had 4 winners from 12 runners in M/April at this course with runners tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 NO QUALIFIERS TOMORROW :zzz May be of interest Mrs C Dunnett as had 4 winners from 12 runners in M/April at this course with runners tomorrow. She had 8 runners at the course today 1winner 33/1 and a 2nd at 100/1 and If any trainers stand out like she did today they will be pointed out like todays was. If you get the r/post they give the stats for each trainer at the course but were the fault lies with these stats it's for the seasons at that course,if you looked at hers today she was the 2nd best trainer at the course but her overall % was no were near the 33% she had for M/April so she was worth a look today.This applies to a lot of trainers and care should be taken when considering those stats at face value but is another tool to finding winners if you use those stats on a monthly basis for the course he's runner his horses at that time of year. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Chepstow Thursday P Nichols 57/20wins 33.9% P Hobbs 65/17wins 26.2% The stats above are for M/April only at CHEPSTOW and both have runners tomorrow and may be of interest if you are backing any of their horses. Please note this is for information only and is not a surgestion by me that you should back any of them. Their are no qulifiers for any of the systems tomorrow. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pab Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Hi,Hope this is the right place to put this?. Has anyone used this system of rating.I used to use it years ago using the Daily Mirror as it was clear to see.It gave mixed results but I was not useing any filters,type of race etc. The total points that any horse could acheve was 13,which was for winning the last 2 starts over course and distance.It was quick to rate a race but I wonder if the results would have been better if filters of some sort had been applied.Just wondered if it was still around and being used with any success?. 1st=5 points 2nd=3 points 3rd=2 points 4th=1 point couse/distance win = 3 points distance win = 1point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 HI pab The system you metion was one devised by C HOLT and if you bought is book this is how you would assess is ratings and the one with the highest rating in each race was the one you backed and if it had 2 wins and a CD winner he would class that as a maximum bet. This as been round for many years and how successful it's you would have to keep records but I think his maximum bets do ok over a period of time. If you use this system and it shows a long time profit keep following it. The down side to this simple idea is it's last 2 wins could be in a different class than the one you are rating, but if you make sure its last 2 ratings are in the same type of race as todays race you may have more winners. If you backed all horses that had won their last 2 races only 6493 bets 1322 wins and a ROI of 83.3% which is -16.7% loss. 2 wins and cd winner 1342/332 with a ROI 94.3% a loss of 5.7%. I hope this may be of interest to you and give you some stats that dont look to good if you backed them to the points system you mentioned. THE % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 31, 2006 Author Share Posted March 31, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Theirs no qulifiers for friday. M Johnson as a 26.8% s/rate at Mussleburgh for M/APRIL(56/15) and as only 1 horse there on Fri LUCK IN RUNNING 3.10 and looks like being Fav and may be worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted March 31, 2006 Author Share Posted March 31, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 NO SELECTIONS FOR SAT 1ST APRIL No turf racing tomorrow so nothing on the stats front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 This might be of interest the 2 named horses have both had three wins each at this course (this season) Amanpuri4.30 F. Won three Fontwell handicaps this term but at shorter distances than today. Walcot Lad5.05 F Course specialist 3wins from 4 hear. As the handicaper caught up with him, but back at his best distance.(CD WINNER) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Walcot Lad Won 13/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted April 2, 2006 Author Share Posted April 2, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 Walcot Lad Won 13/2 Due to both jumps meetings been called off and Kempton being a new AW course their will be nothing of interest to put up today. % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted April 2, 2006 Author Share Posted April 2, 2006 Re: Stats & Systems Turf 2006 These are a few trainer stats for All Weather racing for April only at all the couses (except Kemp new aw course)and may be of interest to those who follow these races. H Morrison 10/5wins roi 267% W Haggis 16/5 ROI 106.9% G Bravery 11/4wins roi 254% R Craggs 12/4wins roi 279% D Barker 15/4wins roi 326% R Ingram 16/5 wins 285/% P Makin 17/5wins roi 418% B Millman 13/5 229% Also these are for Lingfield only in April. P Michell 23/7wins roi 136% B Meehan 21/6wins roi 307% R Hannon 40/9wins roi 128% A Reid 26/5wins roi 178% Southwell for April P Haslem 21/5wins roi 138% C Smith 15/4wins roi 323% M Bell 13/5wins roi 213% D Barker 12/4wins roi 408% For all the lay fans I Woods as had only 5wins from 136 races and only 1win from 36 in 2005 over AW and TURF in April. These stats are for information only and may help towards finding winners. Maybe some of the trainers mentioned may no longer train but I'm sure most do. % MAN :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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