They say they will win so they must

[TCTOPCAT]

Hi hope alls well with everybody 

 

This system is all about horses that are tipped by the vast amount of paper tipsters in the Racing Post for any given race 

The system is a Lay 

The horse must have 7 tips or more 

The horse has to go off as the clear  Fav 

The odds must be under 3.00 on the exchanges (Betfair)

All layed to level stakes of 10pts per lay 

 

Now the fun mental part 2 of this system is a chase system on the same Fav (yep I know you should never chase ect ect )

10points per chase lay

So chasing to gain a 10pt profit then repeat ect example 

So each bank will be 1000pts each 

 

Selections coming soon 

 

 

[MCLARKE]

Good luck, I'm not into lay systems but this sounds sensible (apart from the chasing part of it !)

[TCTOPCAT]

Hi 

 

Yes its a 2 part system a bit like jekyll and hyde but we will have fun 

[TCTOPCAT]

Todays bad boys 

In chase order (Mental I know) but are level stakes as well .

All lays are 10pts a lay 

12.35 Wrappedupinmay 

12.45 Stay Smart 

13.10 Ma Belle Noire 

13.45 Diamond Ri 

13.55 Wadacre Grace 

14.30 Cryptos Dream 

14.55 Stay Away Fay 

15.20 Champ Royal 

15.42 Leveret 

16.45 Bedford Flyer 

 

Good luck 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Hi Update on day 

 

Winning lays 

12.35 - 1.70 = 10pt+

13.45 - 2.06 = 10pt+

Losing lays 

14.30 - 2.24 = 12.40pts-

14.55 - 2.10 = 11pts- 

= 3.4pts loss 

All other lays were over 3.00 and not Fav

 

The crazy chase system 

12.35 win lay at 1.70 = 10pts +

13.45 win lay at 2.06 = 10pts+

20pts banked 

---------------------------------------

14.30 lose at 2.24 = loss of 12.40pts -

14.55 chase amount is layed at 22.40pts x 2.10 = running chase loss of 24.64pts- 

Next race of chase will be 34.64pts x odds 

 

 

 

 

 

[alexcaruso808]

Good luck, I'll be interested to see how this turns out.  

[TCTOPCAT]

Hi alexcaruso808 

Thanks yeah will be fun 

Some interesting data already from the level stake lays as if laying all was a good day points wise

with 7pts won and 4.84pts lost giving 2.16pts+ on the day 

Selections coming soon 

 

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[TCTOPCAT]

Big Boys today 

11.55 Cadell

12.15 Altmore

12.25 Josh The Boss 

12.30 Bollingerandkrug

13.00 Giovinco 

13.30 Vale of Shadows 

13.50 Knappers Hill 

14.05 Sense of Duty 

14.10 Master Chewy 

14.50 Eloi Du Puy 

15.00 Rubaud 

15.20 West Balboa

15.50 Clap of Thunder 

18.00 Tribal Star 

20.30 Cliffs of Capri 

 

Good luck 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Chase system 

 

First race up is at 11.55 Cadell at 34.64pts x odds 

As seen there are times in the chase today when the times will clash of races so I watch every race and will chase according to odds and in running of these races 

Clash races 

12.25- 12-30

14.05-14.10 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Winning lays today 

 

11.55  2.06 = 10pts+

14.05 2.22 = 10pts+

14.10 2.54 = 10pts+

15.50 2.28 = 10pts+

18.00 1.80 = 10pts+

= 50pts+

 

Losing lays 

12.25 2.70 = 17pts-

12.30 2.96= 19.6pts-

13.00 1.69 = 6.90pts-

13.50 1.89 = 8.90pts-

15.00 1.56= 5.60pts-

15.20 1.84 = 8.40pts-

= 66.4pts- 

= 16.4pts - loss on the day 

Running total is 19.8pts loss 2 days laying 

Bank 980.2pts 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Crazy Chase system 

11.55  = 10pts+

---------------------------

12.25 loss 

13.00 loss 

13.50 loss 

14.05 Win = 10pts+

--------------------------

15.00 loss 

15.20 loss 

15.50 win = 10pts+

-------------------------

18.00 win = 10pts+

= 40pts+ on day 

2 Days crazy chase = 60pts +

Bank 1060pts 

Sequence of chase 

Day 1 win , win , lose , lose 

Day 2 win ,lose , lose , lose , win , lose , lose , win , win 

Average odds layed in crazy chase was 2.01 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Todays selections 

12.40 Flying Fortune 

 

13.40 Southoftheborder

13.50 The Juke Box Man 

15.35 Captain Claude 

16.00 Martin Plage

 

Good luck 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Update 

Winning lays 

12.40 -2.10 = 10pts+

10pts+

Losing lays 

13.40-1.61= 6.10pts-

13.50-2.30 = 13.00pts-

19.10pts- 

=9.10pts- 

Running total 3 days = 28.9pts- loss 

Bank = 971.10 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Crazy Chase 

12.40 = 10pts+

10pts banked

--------------------------

13.40 loss 

13.50 loss 

30.8pts layed on next chase lay 

Day 3 Sequence win , lose lose 

3 days crazy chase 70pts+ 

Bank 1070 

 

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Selections today 

 

12.25 Grain of Hope 

13.30 Scene One 

16.00 Jack The Savage 

17.30 Pickwell 

19.30 All The Kings Men 

 

 

Good luck 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by TCTOPCAT
Forgot to add Wolverhampton selections for the day

[TCTOPCAT]

Update for day 

 

Winning lays 

12.25 - 1.60 = 10pts+

17.30 - 2.32 = 10pts+

20pts+

Losing lays 

13.30 - 2.80 = 18pts-

19.30 - 2.44 = 14.4pts- 

32.4pts- 

Loss on day 12.4pts-

Running total 4 days = 41.3pts loss 

Bank 958.7 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Crazy chase 

12.25  Win 10pts+

10pts banked 

-------------------------

13.30 loss 

17.30 Win 10pts+

10pts banked 

-----------------------

19.30 loss 

Next lay chase is 24.4 

 

20pts + on the day 

 

 

Day  Sequence win , Loss , Win , Loss 

4 days crazy chase 90pts+ 

Bank 1090 

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Crazy Chase Data   =.    Average odds layed in crazy chase is  2.15 

4 days 19 races 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Sub note 

Should have outlined this for the crazy chase all odds for this system are taken at smarkets as with the nature of the system chasing which is a no no (dont do this at home) the cash amount I am using is 5p a point as this exchange has a minimum of 5p a bet crazy but it lets you try out a system that will not cost you a lot so this system has a bank of 1000pts at 5p = £50 hence no big loss if things go south.

The thought behind crazy chase , I have been betting/laying for years and you start to notice things so thought might try this system out to see what happens worst case I lose £50 best case I make some money we can only try.

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Today hopefuls 

12.10 By The Grace 

12.55 The Geordie Ginge 

13.05 Mahato 

13.40 Fouroneohfever

14.05 Dysart Enos 

14.15 Silvretta

14.40 Regarde 

15.05 Burrows Park 

15.15 Inca De Lafayette 

15.48 Love Tree 

15.55 Ratafia 

16.15 Second Collection 

17.25 Deboras Dream 

20.30 Cornish Storm 

 

Good luck 

 

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Winning lays 

12.55 -1.76 = 10pts+

13.05- 1.74 =10pts+

15.48- 2.60= 10pts+

15.55- 2.46 = 10pts+

20.30- 2.80 = 10pts+

= 50pts+

Losing lays 

14.05- 1.18 = 1.8pts-

14.15- 1.28 = 2.8pts-

14.40- 1.74 = 7.4pts-

16.15- 2.88 = 18.8pts-

17.25- 2.42 = 14.2pts-

= 45pts- 

= 5pts+ on day 

Running total 5 days 

loss of 36.3pts-

Bank 963.7

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Crazy chase 

12.55 win 10pts+

13.05 win 10pts+

--------------------------

14.05 Loss 

14.15 Loss 

14.40 Loss 

15.48 Win 10pts+

----------------------------

15.55 Win 10pts+

----------------------------

16.15 Loss 

17.25 Loss 

20.30 Win 10pts+

-------------------------------

50pts+ on the day 

Day  Sequence - win, win, lose , lose , lose , win, win , lose , lose , win 

 

5 day crazy chase 140pts+

Bank 1140 

 

Crazy Chase Data   =.    Average odds layed in crazy chase is  2.10

5 days 29 races 

 

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Todays horses 

 

14.30 Eagles Realm

15.45 Engineer 

16.25 Birkie Boy 

16.45 Ithra

16.55 Frightening 

17.30 Musical Act 

18.00 Matsuri 

18.20 Torchlight 

18.50 Inverlochy 

 

Good Luck 

 

 

[alexcaruso808]

@TCTOPCAT sorry if I’m being a bit stupid, but I don’t quite understand the chase part of your system.  Are you backing the favourite using a different bookie?   

[TCTOPCAT]

Hi alexcaruso808 

Iam laying the the Fav to lose  thus i win 10pts  in the chase on Smarkets exchange 

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by TCTOPCAT

[harry_rag]

I don’t understand it either, it needs explaining better. I can follow the profit loss from the lays but not the “crazy chase” element. How did you end up +50 points yesterday from 5 winners at 10 points each with no apparent loss incurred for the losing selections?

Please clarify with reference to stakes and odds.

[TCTOPCAT]

Hi harry_rag 

 

The crazy chase part is you are laying the said horse at its odds to win 10pts 

So the chase is as follows from Tuesday 

 

14.05 lay Dysart Enos  odds 1.18 - horse won race so loss for me = 1.8pts-

    Carry loss of 1.8pt-   

Next lay is for 11.8pts 

14.15 Silvretta odds 1.28 - horse won so loss for me = 3.3pts- 

Carry loss is 1.8pts + 3.3pts = 5.1pts- 

Next lay is for 15.1pts 

14.40 Regarde odds 1.74 - horse won so loss for me = 11.17pts -

Carry loss is 5.1pt- + 11.17pts- = 16.27 pts- 

Next lay is for 26.27pts 

15.48 Love Tree odds 2.60 - horse lost the race so the chase won 10pts +

end of chase 

 

I just had the chase Sequence as loss loss loss win as thought most people would be able to work out the amount of money needed to place on the lay to win 10pts in the chase.

15.48 Love tree lost to Dameofthecotswolds who made up so much ground in a stunning finish to win , one horse that  will win more as was only its 2nd race.

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Update for the day 

Dire racing today with 2 meeting called off 

 

Winning lays 

18.20 - 2.00 = 10pts+

= 10pts+

Losing lays 

14.30 - 1.96 = 9.6pts-

17.30- 2.22 = 12.2pts-

18.00 - 1.89 = 8.9pts-

= 30.7pts- 

= 20.7pts loss on day 

Running total 6 days 

loss of 57pts-

Bank 943

 

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Crazy chase 

14.30 Loss 

17.30 Loss 

18.00 Loss 

18.20 Win = 10pts +

10pts+ on the day 

Day  Sequence - lose , lose , lose , win

 

6 day crazy chase 150pts+

Bank 1150 

 

Crazy Chase Data   =.    Average odds layed in crazy chase is  2.06

6  days  33 races 

 

 

 

 

[TCTOPCAT]

Todays horses 

12.15 EI Jefe 

13.15 Matterhorn 

14.35 Toscan Genius 

14.50 Galia Des Liteaux 

15.00 Sun Joy 

15.10 Ballylinch

15.21 Wolfspear 

15.40 Special Rate 

15.51 Masterdream 

16.30 Montecristo Gold 

17.00 Rochelle

18.30 Intoxicata 

20.00 Darlo Pride 

20.30 Cryptos Dream 

 

Good luck