chris34 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 5.50 Wolverhampton Horrendous card even by Monday AW standards and this is a very tentative selection and the only reason I am suggesting a small wager is because Ladbrokes have this one massively overpriced in my opinion. Bried thoughts on the rest of the field; Corrib hasnt won off this sort of mark for nearly 4 years and not shown enough to suggest he can. Excellent Vision did well on penultimate start in a classified event behind Miss Villefranche, that form reads well but unreliable habit kicked back in last time out when 11lengths behind Royal Alcor in similar event and will need a lot more back in a handicap. Flying Applause Nottingham specialist but has won here this trip looks to stretch him and wide draw. Yellow Printer has tumbled in the weights since his maiden won on polytrack at Lingfield and did ok over CD on penultimate start 1lb lower, forget last run over 7f but may want further than this in time and may just find one or two better treated. Duneen Dream showed nothing on back of break last time out and looks high enough in weights. Barton Bounty appears to have lost the plot recently, Think hardly beaten a rival in maidens or NHF races easy to dismiss on handicap debut. Lady Morganna has been easily held on all starts to date and will need to such a lot more yet. Queenies Star did atleast win last time out but has never strung 2 good efforts together and dreadfully inconsistent and career best now required off a 4lb higher mark. Rules Honour shown nothing worth noting and Baby Driver has shown nothing for this new stable despite showing reasonable form last year. For me Jibouti looks massively overpriced at 10/1 and is worth a dabble, showed little in maidens as a 2yr old and didnt improve for a switch to handicaps, but has appeared to have responded well to the fitting of blinkers and the return to polytrack last time out over slightly shorter trip around here staying on well after a tardy start, a better start and step up to this trip should all seem him go close with a very strong jockey booked Martin Lane and although stall 9 not ideal is usually held up. 1.5pt e/w Jibouti 10/1 lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th 1PT E/W 3.50 WOLVERHAMPTON~PERLACHY 9/1 WH I think WH have priced this wrong 9's is way to generous imo. Did really well to win from outside draw lto has got that again this time round loves it here and a 4lb rise may not be enough to keep it from having back to back wins certainly a great chance of a place at least. Change of jockey today but has won three times on it but i have to say Kelly Harrison rode a cracker on Perlachy last time gently taking the horse gradually over to the rail from the wide outside and came very late. They went lickity split that day hopefully it will be the same again tomorrow and will swoop late top. The horse is in good form won off 4lb higher just over a year ago great each way chance imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Wolv 5.20 - Lady of Burgundy - win at 17/2 bog VC This horse gave me a nice 80/1 winner in the DRC in August and I've been watching it ever since. That was a maiden race and since then it's run in handicaps. If you chuck out it's race on the 26th Sept when the saddle slipped and it coasted home in it's own time then it's shown steady improvement run by run yet it always goes off at big odds ! Finished 3rd last time at 50/1, beaten under 2 lengths, in a better race than this Much shorter odds for today - does that mean it's 'off' ?.............:hope She acts on the track, drops in class and steps up in trip. She runs like a stayer and her breeding is that off a stayer, so I'm hoping she not only gets the two miles here but will improve for it. Last time was a class 4 here over four furlongs shorter and she made good late progress to run into 3rd The hot favourite is likely to be Priors Gold who won a maiden here last time on the bit. But it was a poor race and a very slow race and it remains to be seen what he has if under a bit of pressure in the finish. I suspect he might be a bit of a bridle horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Wolv 4.50 - Ventus D'or - ew at 25/1 bog Laddies Kind of horse i like to look at in nurseries for big price EW shots Stepping up in trip after a long break Had it's 3 runs to get a mark and now steps up in trip on it's handicap debut. It's bred to be a stayer but ran in 3 six furlong maidens - up to 8.65 furlongs today Hasn't run for 3 months - I like this because it's handicap mark is based on what it did 3 months ago but that's a long time in the life of a two year old and there's every chance he's grown up a lot since he last appeared in public. With normal growth and development there's every chance he's a better horse now than he was then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th 3.50 WOLVES CAPE ROYAL 14-1 0.5pt ew (BET 365) CAPE ROYAL is getting on now however it is very well weighted for this event.GRIFFIN POINT is the favourite for this event and that is the basis of this bet.GRIFFIN POINT has faced CAPE ROYAL twice last month,both on tuft.In the first race at WARWICK over 5f CAPE ROYAL did its usual front running tactics but didnt quite make it home and GRIFFIN POINT beat it by 1/2 lengths.CAPE ROYAL was carrying a stone more than GRIFFIN that day and is now carrying 5 pounds less,thats a big pull of 19 pounds. .In their second meeting at nottingham later in october CAPE ROYAL made all and was not caught winning and beating GRIFFIN POINT by 3 and 1/2 lengths and CAPE ROYAL is better off in the weights today based on that race too.And now for the negative.CAPE ROYAL has never won at this track and is now 11 years old,however it has beaten the likes of perlachy over C&D and is on a terrific mark(56).It is also drawn well in stall 5 and hopefully off this mark it will trail a blaze and not be caught:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th 3.20 WOLVES ATLANTIC BEACH 15-2 0.75pt ew Wrote this recently and got some nice place money at 25-1,goes here again in 3.20 and i think making some nice late headway in recent race,plus the fact it is better weighted against blown it i think it should go close here from good draw Quote: 6.20 WOLVERHAMPTON ATLANTIC BEACH 16-1 2pt ew (current 25-1 Ladbrokes and VC Bet) 13 go to post for this 32Red Handicap CLASS 5 race.And i think ATLANTIC BEACH has a fantastic chance of taking this race.However it is not drawn well out in Stall 11 but i think it has the finish to overcome this in a weak looking race.It comes in here at 16-1 and a lively outsider imo.BLOWN IN for example comes in here at 6-1 and ATLANTIC BEACH has beaten it twice in 2010 on turf and is much better off in the weights. Also through a form line through BLOWN IT,Atlantic beach is better matched with the second favourite HADEETH(11-2) who is held by BLOWN it easily both on turf and polytrack here at wolves.In Fact through that form line it also is closely matched with another of the favourites PRINCE JAMES.Also ATLANTIC BEACH is closely matched with GRUDGE based on run over C&D in the summer. Atlantic Beach was poor last time out at kempton, but is much better here at wolves and has form of 24,the 4 was a blanket finish to solid yardstick whiskey junction over 6f,this one can do any tactic hold up or prominent but may have to stay handy from this draw and is weighted to strike close home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th 3.20 WOLVES ATLANTIC BEACH 15-2 0.75pt ew Wrote this recently and got some nice place money at 25-1,goes here again in 3.20 and i think making some nice late headway in recent race,plus the fact it is better weighted against blown it i think it should go close here from good draw 6.20 WOLVERHAMPTON ATLANTIC BEACH 16-1 2pt ew (current 25-1 Ladbrokes and VC Bet) 13 go to post for this 32Red Handicap CLASS 5 race.And i think ATLANTIC BEACH has a fantastic chance of taking this race.However it is not drawn well out in Stall 11 but i think it has the finish to overcome this in a weak looking race.It comes in here at 16-1 and a lively outsider imo.BLOWN IN for example comes in here at 6-1 and ATLANTIC BEACH has beaten it twice in 2010 on turf and is much better off in the weights. Also through a form line through BLOWN IT,Atlantic beach is better matched with the second favourite HADEETH(11-2) who is held by BLOWN it easily both on turf and polytrack here at wolves.In Fact through that form line it also is closely matched with another of the favourites PRINCE JAMES.Also ATLANTIC BEACH is closely matched with GRUDGE based on run over C&D in the summer. Atlantic Beach was poor last time out at kempton, but is much better here at wolves and has form of 24,the 4 was a blanket finish to solid yardstick whiskey junction over 6f,this one can do any tactic hold up or prominent but may have to stay handy from this draw and is weighted to strike close home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willster Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Wolv 5.20 - Lady of Burgundy - win at 17/2 bog VC This horse gave me a nice 80/1 winner in the DRC in August and I've been watching it ever since. That was a maiden race and since then it's run in handicaps. If you chuck out it's race on the 26th Sept when the saddle slipped and it coasted home in it's own time then it's shown steady improvement run by run yet it always goes off at big odds ! Finished 3rd last time at 50/1, beaten under 2 lengths, in a better race than this Much shorter odds for today - does that mean it's 'off' ?.............:hope She acts on the track, drops in class and steps up in trip. She runs like a stayer and her breeding is that off a stayer, so I'm hoping she not only gets the two miles here but will improve for it. Last time was a class 4 here over four furlongs shorter and she made good late progress to run into 3rd The hot favourite is likely to be Priors Gold who won a maiden here last time on the bit. But it was a poor race and a very slow race and it remains to be seen what he has if under a bit of pressure in the finish. I suspect he might be a bit of a bridle horse Just a heads up guys. I was in the bookies at Lunchtime (I actually get a lunch break) I work in Edinburgh by the way. Some guy comes in and places £2000 Win on Priors Gold. Not a lot of money I know, then he procedes to go to another bookies and place the same bet. Wonder if he knows something we dont?? :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Just a heads up guys. I was in the bookies at Lunchtime (I actually get a lunch break) I work in Edinburgh by the way. Some guy comes in and places £2000 Win on Priors Gold. Not a lot of money I know' date=' then he procedes to go to another bookies and place the same bet. Wonder if he knows something we dont?? :loon[/quote'] Did you stalk him into the other bookies and follow him up to the counter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willster Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Did you stalk him into the other bookies and follow him up to the counter ? Sad to admit it but yes. :eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Sad to admit it but yes. :eek :unsure And how did you know when he left the first bookies that he was going to another bookies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willster Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th :unsure And how did you know when he left the first bookies that he was going to another bookies? The other bookies is directly opposite. Plus I was going in there anyway to get some footy cupons. No conspiracy fella, just thought I'd share!! :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th J . Wonder if he knows something we dont?? :loon we know something he doesnt.he has a stalker.ha ha.good luck with your bet. :nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Priors Gold is only 7/4 at the moment from 2/1 last night so it doesn't seem that there's been huge amounts on it ? I did hear on the telly that young Powell was flying from Folkestone to Wolves to ride this horse after riding over jumps, so that might be an indication that they really fancy it Obviously if you've backed something else in a race you have to be worried about a talking horse but I reckon in the long term you're better off going with your own opinion..............:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th 3.20 WOLVES ATLANTIC BEACH 15-2 0.75pt ew Wrote this recently and got some nice place money at 25-1,goes here again in 3.20 and i think making some nice late headway in recent race,plus the fact it is better weighted against blown it i think it should go close here from good draw posted it twice do i get a bonus point.:nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willster Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th :clap well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sefman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th i will take a chance on jasmeno forget the last two runs they were the wrong class.It run a good race back on the 7th of october and won,and stayed on well that was over 14furlongs.Todays trip should be no problem,the two races it won back in 2010,it won with ease and stayed on really well both times.It is 3lb higher now than its last win,but that should be no problem either.R Havlin rides this course well so my ideal of a good each way bet.17,50 wolverhampton:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th i will take a chance on jasmeno forget the last two runs they were the wrong class.It run a good race back on the 7th of october and won' date='and stayed on well that was over 14furlongs.Todays trip should be no problem,the two races it won back in 2010,it won with ease and stayed on really well both times.It is 3lb higher now than its last win,but that should be no problem either.R Havlin rides this course well so my ideal of a good each way bet.17,50 wolverhampton:hope[/quote'] 5:20 pm mate! Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sefman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th so it is sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verisimilitude Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Maybeagrey 4.50 Wolverhampton. 0.5 points each way. Needs to show a bit more, but this Nursery can suit and I feel an improvement will be seen. Not the best of races and so well worth an each way bet. The trip and surface shouldn't be a concern and the odds are there to tempt. 9/1 Victor Chandler (bog) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Maybeagrey 4.50 Wolverhampton. 0.5 points each way. Needs to show a bit more, but this Nursery can suit and I feel an improvement will be seen. Not the best of races and so well worth an each way bet. The trip and surface shouldn't be a concern and the odds are there to tempt. 9/1 Victor Chandler (bog):clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Teddy, Verisi and Rooney , excellent winners lads!! Teddy , you thought 9/1 was overpriced, and then it goes and wins at 18/1 :loon Cracking stuff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRat Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Anyone see the joke race at Wolves. Ended up with a 156% book? One 'backed' from 20s to about 6/1. Pretty much everything shortened. 3 looked like big gambles. I've seen similar but nothing like this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris34 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Anyone see the joke race at Wolves. Ended up with a 156% book? One 'backed' from 20s to about 6/1. Pretty much everything shortened. 3 looked like big gambles. I've seen similar but nothing like this before. There has been several cases of this recently on the AW! Well done on the winners!! Look like couple of good ones in here today yet again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRat Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Really? I don't really pay any attention to the AW, and especially not class 5/6 races anyway. If this goes on a lot it makes it even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Really? I don't really pay any attention to the AW' date=' and especially not class 5/6 races anyway. If this goes on a lot it makes it even worse[/quote'] Makes what worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRat Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Betting on this racing I know people like it, and can find value there. Hugh bets loads on the AW. I was just speaking from a personal point of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris34 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th Nothing on the scale of todays but big overrounds on the AW are not unusual but like you say there is value to be had if you can find it at the right time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris34 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th The 7.40 at Wolves on Friday had a 125% book and that was a decent looking class 4 handicap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Re: Flat Racing Monday 28th 1PT E/W 3.50 WOLVERHAMPTON~PERLACHY 9/1 WH I think WH have priced this wrong 9's is way to generous imo. Did really well to win from outside draw lto has got that again this time round loves it here and a 4lb rise may not be enough to keep it from having back to back wins certainly a great chance of a place at least. Change of jockey today but has won three times on it but i have to say Kelly Harrison rode a cracker on Perlachy last time gently taking the horse gradually over to the rail from the wide outside and came very late. They went lickity split that day hopefully it will be the same again tomorrow and will swoop late top. The horse is in good form won off 4lb higher just over a year ago great each way chance imo. :nana top pick ted and what a drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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