Dave Mardell
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Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome
I dont think your play here was BAD as such. You made a raise with a decent ish hand. And then bet agressively on a flop that was very favourable to a pair queens. You got action from a sucker who thinks QT is a good hand to be calling raises with. Ironically this is exactly the reason i told you to fold QT to a raise if its heads up as you hit your queen and still dont know where you are. He was all in with 3 cards to save him! However i feel you VASTLY over bet the hand. 10x the BB raise is WAY WAY too much. Im supprised you got a call from QT. Generally only AA KK AK or possibly AQ would call. 3 of those 4 hands have you beaten on the flop. YOu then bet 2.5 x the pot which again is WAY WAY to much. There were no draws there, and that bet can again only be called by a hand that cann call a 10xBB raise. AA KK AQ or AK. AK would fold in a heartbeat and all the others are gonna love that flop and reraise you all in. Because youve now invested $60 into the pot you HAVE to call this all in inspite the fact you know your badly beaten because your so heavily commited now. One of many reasons why you want to keep the pot small but thats a lesson for another day. As it stands you got involved with a guy who was one of three things: 1) A complete muppet who was happy to donate all his chips on top pair no kicker or 2) A complete pro who tried to represent a big big hand not realising he was playing with a guy who as yet doesnt have enough experience to figure a big hand 3) A guy that has seen you raise it up big with TT and 99 and is calling the big raise figureing to be 50 50. Hits his queen, and finds this time you had QJ I think he was number 3.... Summary: you played the hand well - but you over bet it by miles. Got yourself in a situation where in theory you should only get action if your beat. And then you loose all your chips. In theory....lolrtb147: shows [Js Qs] (A Pair of Queens, King high) -
Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome
Unsuprisingly he was upset as he had an 80% chance of winning the hand preflop :) As for how you played the hand, well you flopped your top set and you did well to bet agressively. Any jack or seven had a draw to beat you. The chance of the draw hitting would have been 2/1 over 2 cards so i would have liked to have seen you bet the size of the pot on the flop at least as your $20 bet gave him odds to draw but ho hum it got you a call. Then the nine comes. Excellent barring pocker nines you have pretty much the nuts now. And you move all in.....only the made straight is likely to call here. The ONLY other hand that can call is JJ. Over pair to the flop with the up and down straight draw. Check. Give him a chance to make his loosing straight, or give him a chance to bluff at it. My moving all in you give you guy a chance to get away from a hand that only has 2 cards in the deck to win. Couple of pointers though. Even after you flopped your set he still had 2 jacks, 4 queens and 4 sevens to break your trips. 10 outs = about 40%. This is why tens is always a dangerous hand because it really needs to flop a set to be safe, and there is almost ALWAYS a straight draw out there when you flop a set of tens. Same with a set of fives. Every straight MUST contain a 5 or a Ten! Probably dont want to be reraising with TT as a result. Take a flop sure. But dont reraise. As it stands paul you were very lucky here i think. You flopped your set which in itself was a 7/1 shot, but it wasnt enough to flop a set you pretty much had to flop T98 to get paid. Even QT9 he would prolly folded as while he has a draw hes gonna fear the Q. Certainly AT2 wouldnt have go you any money. Now as it stands you could argue that the only reason you put so much in was because you had the nuts. But a couple of questions to ask yourself... If the flop had come 238 would youstill have bet as agressively with your over pair? If the turn has been a 7, a queen or a jack would you still have moved all your money in? As it stands I dont think you did a lot wrong. Only things i can see is the reraise before the flop was a bit specualtive. If he moves all in you have to throw your hand away. Only other thing was you nearly shot yourself in the foot when you did hit your miracle board. The all in gave him a CHANCE to fold a lot of marginal second best hands that he MIGHT have had. If hes got trip 888 hes gonna get his money in somehow anyway and why let him of a pair of queens so easily....for example. In other words theres nothing wrong wrong with calling a dog hand against the odds if your gonna be able to make it pay if you hit big, luckily for you this guy was keen to get his money in anyway. The other thing worth of note is player "adam". Flat calls the $3. Flat calls the $10. Hes either a very weak player just calling al the time, or he was sitting pretty with something big like aces. However his fold on the flop suggests he had nothing and was weak - or is SO good he knew his aces were no good....He called me a british punk for the way I won. :lol -
Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome
I am reading a book too' date=' although haven't had time last few days to pick it up. :([/quote'] Does the book have a section on dominated hand theory? It should have. If you have not read this section yet read it before you play another game. It is perhaps the most important thing for a begining poker player to understand. -
Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome Ive seen the calculatem software . Never used it. Looked to me like it was geared at a limit game rather than NL.... Also I dont understnad how it can tell you your chance of winning the hand unless it knows what your oponent has. I had a guy tell me that when he called me all in with AJ against my AK it said he had a 40% chance to win. By my thinking it was more like 25%...either he has no clue or he has a bit of software telling him that AJ is 40% against a random hand maybe. But I dont raise with random hands sooo. Best thing you can do paul is try and work out what your openent holds, work out how many cards you can hit to beat that, and give yourself 4% for each one. This should put you in about the right ball park. Also now your back at .50/1 try playing 2 tables at once....just for an hour or two, and see how you get on.
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Re: PL Internet Poker Bragging Thread Thanks Dave. Thats a big help! :ok
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Re: PL Internet Poker Bragging Thread
Thats a fantastic result matey. Did you run into Actionjack on your way throught that? I been trying to take the step up from STT to MTTs for a week or two now. Its a different game for sure so im playing the freerolls and low buy in $1 and $3 to try and get some experience before playing "for real" in a proper buy in. So far ive managed 5th of 2652 in $200 Freeroll for $13 1st of 2598 in $200 Freeroll for $60 23rd of 359 in $3 NL for $7.53 However what is discouraging me is the fact that unless you get a final table finish there is FAR more money per hour to be made in the STT's. I think whats stopping me from having any serious success is the poor blind structures online. Seems that early on you need a premium hand to go all in with to avoid the lemmings looking to gamble up with 72s. Then the blinds get big and your forced to wait for a big hand still because you cant pressure the big stacks relative to the blind size. Put another way, when I won the $200 Freeroll I barely got a hand all game. I got through on the virture of getting desperatly low stacked, moving all in with the best hand and getting doubled up. I only lost one hand all in all game with AK getting beat by AJ, but other than that I had all my favourite hands hold up at a critical stage. How often does that happen? The blinds just get so large your left with All In or Fold. Or am I missing something?Still it's another $2000 in the kitty.
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Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome
Mate i dont mean to discourage you. Just trying to teach you the lessons that i learned the hard way - by loosing a LOT of money. However the truth is that no ammount of reading or asking for advice is anything like a substitute for actual experience. I remember when I first started playing. I would fold AKo but play Q2s cos it can make a flush. I didnt understand. I read some books sure and they all explained the theory. But it wasnt until i played many thousands of hands, rarely finding flushes that paid, and only getting action when I was beat that I started to wake up. Its something that CAN ONLY come with experience. It takes a lot experience to know when your straight is no good inspite of no flush on board, further still to fold a full house. There are many many mistakes for you yet ot learn from them, and the lesson is learned just as well when you loose the max buyin in a .50/1 game as it is in a 2.5/5 game. What I think your problem might be paul is bordem. Because you are (rightly) not playing many hands, you want lots of $$$ when you do make something, but bordem is creeping in even still and your playing some veeeeery marginal hands with only one other player in the pot. What I think might be good for you is to multi-table. Pick an extreme micro limit, and play 2 or 3 tables at once. Youll be seeing three times as many hands an hour and this will really help your tightness. When you get dealt QTs on table one at the same time as AA on another table you will just fold the QT because you wanna focus on the aces.....it can really help. Pluse the increased volume of hands means youll be learning the lessons 3 times as fast :)Consider me told. :( -
Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome Just checked the buyins for the 2/5 game and its $500! Being that good money management suggests you should have no more than 10% of your bankoll in play at any given table, you need to have $5000 to be playing that limit - MINIMUM. SO heres what i want you to do Paul. Bit of risk management - for your own good!. Divide your total poker balance into 10 equal sessions. This is your maxium buy in for one session. Find the limit where this figure is closest to the max buy in for that table. That is the limit you are correctly bankrolled for. YOu may rebuy a second and third "session" if you bust and the game is good (i.e your loosing down to sheer bad luck rather than because of bad play). You may not rebuy into the same game more than 3 times in one session, even if you percieve the game to be good. If youve lost 3 reloads already due to "bad luck" it may be that your just outclassed and not have the experience yet to realise that youve actually been outplayed. It may be just dumb luck but even so after 3 reloads even the most mentally strong players will start to tilt, and its probably best to conserve the remaining 70% of the bankroll for a day when your better prepared mentally at this stage. So in summary: Calculate your correct banroll level by dividing your total balance by ten Dont loose more than 3 buy ins at any one table / and or day Trust me!
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Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome Ok Paul, here goes. You Bad play was not bad - it was suicidal. Your strong play was not strong, it was lucky. Now ive been as brutal as I can be ill try to explain why. The QT, suited or otherwise, looks big but it really isnt. About the only flop your ever comfortable with is the flop straight and then you aint gonna get no action anyway. You might catch a strong draw like KJ2, but again you will have to gamle before you cards come if you want to get paid. YOu shouldnt be in after any sensible raise with QT unless there are MANY callers in the pot to justify trying to hit a straight. You certainly dont want to call of a big 4xBB raise with QT when its just you and the other guy, else what do you want to hit? QJ2? What if hes raising with a very real AQ T26? What if hes raising with a very real JJ-AA - 66 or 22 QT2? Well this is probably a good flop for you but chances are your oponent has none of it now and you wont paid. YOull get a call if he has Aces or Kings but you didnt have odds to hit your two pair. Further more if the board pairs he will have Aces Up to beat your Queens up. Its just to weak! As for your call for the draw. Well your right your draw was too the nuts, and while it is important to be drawing to the nuts and not a second best hand, you need need to have correct pot odds to do it else yout loosing money. Here you had 4 jacks to hit from the remaining 29 cards in the deck. Not much chance! If you also had 4 of a suit it becomes a bit better as you also have 9 hearts + 3 jacks to hit - 12 outs in 29, but bear in mind that your flush isnt to the nuts here and you may be up against someone who has AX of the same suit. He has you beat with ace high now, and if the flush comes your steal beat, so your back to having only 3 outs.... You were probably not getting 11/1 in the pot to draw the bare straight thats for sure but if you had 4 flush as well you were probably ok to call.... Onto the JT. I think you got lucky here. Of all the hands a player might raise with almost all of them will have JT beat. Infact almost any two cards he could have had you beat Pairs 22-AA AK-A2 KQ-K2 QJ-Q2 JK-JQ Now admitedly some of these hands are more marginal than others. Your practically a coin flip against a pair lower than nines for example. But against a big pair or AJ or AT or some such your in huge trouble. I think what happen was your oponent raised with a pair, maybe even as high as jacks certainly at least AK or AT. I suspect he had JJ or AT as his raise on the flop suggests he likes it. The queen pops, he knows your a new player and that you could have JQ and sucked out so he gives it up. I assure you the time he has aces youll loose all your chips. I dont want to be discouraging, but i think the reason your winning is because at the level your playing at the quality of play is a lot higher. Players will initially give your bets and raises credit becuase they should until you give the reason not to. YOu will therefore win in the short term. However once they cotton on to the fact that your still learning you may find yourself getting proper fleeced. Heck you may be a really fast learner and be a lot better than i give you credit for, but personally i wouldnt have gotten involved in either of the spots you mention, and I think you will find Jezza and dave are in agreement. Sounds like you were betting large sums of money in some very speculative spots..... But its not all bad news. I have some usefull advice too. You seem to have trouble figuring your chances of making a drawing hand so ill give you a good rule of thumb. Its not EXACT, but its good enough for on the fly descisions for small pots. Obviously with big pots you wanna suss things out a bit more but anyway.... Basically for each card that can improve your hand give yourself 4%. So if you have 12 outs you have about a 48% chance of winning over the next two cards, and thus about 2/1 on each turn of the card. Its not exact but its close enough for your purposes. When you get good youll need to be more presice for now it will do. Of course knowing how many of your outs are actually outs is the real skill. An example. You have AK hearts. The flop comes QJ2 with 2 hearts. You could figure you have as many as 18 outs here....a truely excellent spot 3 x Aces 3 x Kings 3 x Tens that are not a heart 9 x hearts However if your mand has AQ or KQ then your aces and kings may not be outs as they give 2 pairs, you "only" have 12 outs to the straight and flush. Still worth getting involved with but this is why it important to try and put your opponent on a hand. Always be thinking about what hes got when he raises before the flop, or bets at a flop, that way you can better determine how many live outs you have and better determine if the pot is the right size to be calling. Hope that all makes sense, if not let me know and ill try and be clearer. But for the love of god stop playing large NL games. YOur asking for trouble:loon
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Re: Advice please Gents....
This is quite an important point. I know many pros expect that over the long term, they expect to make one big bet per hour. Sure they can win $1000 in one hand but they can loose it too. So if you wanted to give yourselve a £10 hour salary youd need to be playing and winning the $10/20 game.... At least thats how it goes for limit holdem. Cant speak to NL, im not really a cash player.2. What limits will you be playing? -
Re: laddies 250millionth hand giveaway $1200. was the prize. Bloody pain in the arse if you ask me. 7000 players online - double to normal for peak hours. Was in the middle of a $100+10 STT and it was freezing up so bad i nearly lost in spite of a huge chip lead. As it was i managed to scrape through despite, but if ida had a shorta stack ida gone out. Fkin disgusting if you ask me. Gonna stay away for the rest of the night till it calms down.... on the plus side my running profit in the ladders since 01 May 2005 is approx $1700 + $600 in entry tokens remaining. So $2300 in 38 days from a $20 deposit. Nice :)
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Re: Advice please Gents.... the thing is you maye find your success is comming purely from the fact your not trying to be succesful, you having fun and winning is a nice lil bonus. When you go pro you will have the pressure of not being able to pay the rent if you go on a long loosing run, which can and will happen even if you play perfectly ALL the time. This will put you on tilt which will lead to more losses. I say continue to enjoy it, and if you get a payday once in a while that pays for a holdiday then result!
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Re: Poker Novice Questions Im pretty shoddy heads up but you certainly cant be waitinf for premium cards. I think the general thing is your betting that your opponent didnt make their hand, more than you are the strength of your own....
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Re: Ladbrokes weekly raked hands freeroll gotta win the 60-40s in my book. The ammount of times i have like AJs called by KQ or some such...
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Re: PL Internet Poker Bragging Thread
Dont look at it as only winning $10. Look at it as being better than 4123 other players. Bit morel uck and you mighta made the final table and some serious $$$ Nice one mate :cheersIt doesn't get anywhere near Dave or Heniek's freerole results' date=' but its the best I've managed so far [img']http://punterslounge.com/forum/images/smilies/DancingCow.gif
I don't play many MTT's so I guess I should be getting in training for the for the PL Freerole 
How will I spend the whopping $10 that I won ......... decisions decisions
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Re: Poker Novice Questions Whatever works for you mate. I like UltimateBet and Ladbrokes. Go where ever you like the software, the banking is good (NOT PARADISE) and you can find the games you want to play at the times you want to play them...
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Re: There's one word I certainly have learned about poker I like to do "other things" while i play to stop the temptation of playing too many hands. Music, PS2, the TV anything...
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Re: PL Internet Poker Bragging Thread Excellant paul. What stake was that at? :clap :clap :clap
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Re: The Punters Lounge Poker $1000 Freeroll - FREE Entry! (Details of how to enter) Paul 1) Have you recieved my entry 2) How many can we host 3) When is it
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Re: Poker Odds Bare in mind that the software at card player doesnt factor in the chance of a a split. For example if you put in A2o vs A3o on a flop of AAK, or AA vs AA with no flop, it lists both hands as being 50 50 against each other. Both cases are highly likely to end up in a split
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Re: Evil online poker site - POKERROOM.COM Most poker rooms do not offer all in protection in NL games as the feature is open to abuse. However I think it is pattently obvious that your never going to pass your last $4 into a $1000 pot now are you. If im involved in a big pot that I know im probably gonna end up all in with anyway i tend oto get my chips in anyway. One the other guy might fold and two, if you get bumped your all in anyway. Not much consolation I know but youd tihnk tink the poker room would at least refund you your $200. They make enough money! In the early days of Ladbrokes the Poker Manager there refunded a $10 buy in after there software crapped out on me. Good will gesture that has seen the recoup that a 1000-fold over the next 3 years
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Re: PL Internet Poker Bragging Thread Prize money is nothing to write home about, but 1st in a field of 2598 is no mean feat. Got lucky heads up but I'm well chuffed with myself none the less
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Re: Rounders........... Man im killinng myself today. Was up in the final level of the Ladder/Rounders tournament. over 8000 chips with 4 left. 3 places play. Guy to my right on 3000 and the others on about 2000. Blinds are 200/400. Should have been assured 3rd. Made the mistake of playing a hand though, which got drawn out on, which sent me into a spiral that bumped me out in 4th. With the next level 800 blinds forcing the small stacks to play I coulda just folded and folded and folded and still been almost assured some money. Im mean i sucked out big time at a crital stage so I wont bemoan the outdraw so much as the fact that i even tried to play at all with anything less than AA KK QQ or AK. Didnt need to. Shouldnt have. Payed the price. BUmmer :(
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Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome The problem with bluffing paul, particularly at the level you are playing at, is people are apt to call with any hand they like. Lets say someone has trip nines. They are unlikely to give it up just because there is a flush on the board. You will probably find you will only win small pots with a bluff, and are only called when you are badly beat. The money you loose from a failed bluff will usually exceed the money you have made thus far from succesful bluffs. Further more if someone has the nut flush that you are trying to represent, no amount of betting is gonna make them fold a hand that cannot loose. Better that you semi bluff. I.E have a good few outs should someone actually call you. The situation with the AKs you mention above is an excellant example of thise. Had you moved all your chips in you would have been bluffing. You have only Ace High. However should you get called you have at least 9 "outs" to make the absoloute nuts, and maybe as many as 15 is you ace and king are live too.
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Re: My Poker Novice Diary - Comments Welcome
Couldnt have played this better myself. You make a strong raise in position with the monster hand. For some reason a guy calls out of position with QJo. Why anyone would want to call a 10xBB raise with QJo is beyond me, much less when they have to act first on the flop. He hits his jack top pair, and this is great news for you. Of course he bets because he has top pair OK kicker. It could be because hes seen you raise $10 before with QT which is why hes loving it now but even so he bets. Your reraise for the minimum he is absoloutely perfect. If you move all in he may start to wake up to AJ or a big pair and fold. If you flat call you send out a message that you have a little something something. Maybe second pair or A lower kicker, or are trapping with 2 pair or somesuch. Certainly if a King comes on the turn and you move all in he gets scared and its hard to get paid. HEck any time you go all in on the turn he might fear youve hit 2 pair a straight or any number of things. But RIGHT now he thinks hes got the best hand, and the minimum reraise gives him a chance to hang himself. He duly took it a reraised you call in. At a higher level game you would probably have to have a long think about what he might have and respect 2 pair or trips but at this level your aces are likely still good, you have an easy call, and you got paid. Nicely done! Of not is the fact that you raised the same with AA as you did with QJ. Its good that you do this as no one can tell when youve got the aces and no one can tell when its a specualtive QJ. It also means you get action on your big hands because they seen the same raise with QJ. That said I still think your over commiting with a 10xBB raise. Reel it in to 4 or 5 x the BB.