MrJol

WRD Race 7   KRIS ME DEADLY

Gulfstream R10   R MAN JOE      £1,000,000 ON THE NOSE PLEASE    Mr @BillyHills

@BillyHills
You said NO selections from Singapore so I changed to my reserve 'Peppi La Few' which won, now your counting the horse I couldn't have as a loser
I need every point I can get in these trying times ?<------>?<------->?

Singapore race

Gulfstream 20.34   FANCIFIED  

Gulfstream 20.34   FANCIFIED  

though I'll never win, this really touches my heart. This forum is very heartwarming, sweet and does bring a loving, caring atmosphere (most members.??)..very supportive and this forum does feel like a second home you can go to. ?? Thank you all for the efforts, input and predictions on the forum. Stay safe, everyone and wish you all good health and happiness. ??

Vaal 12.30   FIRE AND ICE   11/4 Bet365

Naps Comp for April
Most of us are going through a difficult time at the moment and whilst taking part and visiting the forum is not on the top of the list of priorities for people, here at Punters Lounge we realise how much a bit of normality can help. We have members from all over the world and our thoughts are with everyone.
Racing like many other industries are struggling but we have taken the decision to carry on with the Daily Naps Competition and as a reward to our loyal members Paul is increasing the Prize Money on offer for the month of April.
The new proposals we spoke about will be coming in although we are going to leave out the KO Cup competition until May as it may be difficult for 30 players trying to pick 3 selections each on the 4th of April when we may have limited action.
The qualifying places in March will remain in place for the next KO Cup Competition. 
We will accept bets from any racing from around the world during April and all bets outside of Europe will be settled at the Industry SP which appears in the ATR or Sporting Life results section.
(*Racing Post publish dividend prices which will be different from the Industry SP)
We realise backing horses from the other side of the world is not everyones cup of tea and fully understand those that choose to sit it out until things get back to normal. 
I will continue to put the daily threads up and try and pinpoint what action is talking place. Just be aware of the off times, some US and AUS Racing will be very early in the morning.
Race times will be based on the UK 24 hour clock, anything after midnight will count towards the following day regardless of when the meeting started.
Hopefully in four weeks time we will have some better news, in the meantime we wish you all the best.
 
Prize Money For April
1st: £100
2nd: £75
3rd: £50
4th: £25
Tipster with most winners with at least £10 profit will receive a £50 bonus
All winners will also receive Punters Lounge Merchandise.
 
Many thanks
 

 
 
 

Clonmel 14.00   FARMIX   13/8 Bet365

Naas 16.30   LEMISTA   15/2 Bet365

Sneaking upto the profit line ?

Naas 16.30   LEMISTA   15/2 Bet365

Sssssh lol
 

Amen................ I hope.

Mar 9
That man Ken is at it again

Actually thought this way would be good for a while, would save me looking for a long shot all the time lol
people pick the long shots because they are trying to win the competition, it's the only prize on offer so you want to try and win it. If your £30 behind it's no good picking a 7/4 shot is it 
Personally I would try and get the most winners, you can't beat the feeling of picking winners 

Well do you?  
I've got your pens all over the bloody house, I blame it on the other half 

The competiton, as is, is excellent.  I would continue to play if the rules did not change.  I am thinking "what is there not to like?"; Forum, I can choose my horses with any objective, I bump into others who want to have fun, and this fella @BillyHills does all the hard work in administering, monitoring, reporting.  And no subscription and for the skillful few prizes!   ?
 
Proposed changes:  All good. 
looking at ways to reward the more consistent players and also ways to keep up the interest to the end of the month...
Proposals as from April 1st
............
Highest S/R with min £10 Profit : £20
............
Cup Runners Up: £10
    These are all welcome.  I particularly like the transferrence of league money to the 2 extra prizes.
Top 25 only to qualify for Cup.
    Is this top 25 even if not in profit?
 
Other:
I am more than impressed by the stalwarts of the forum.  The dozen or so punters who posted over 340 predictions over 2019, a lot of whom stayed in profit for the year.  Now that is consistent in every which way.

Well do you?  
I've got your pens all over the bloody house, I blame it on the other half 

Proposals 
As promised is the tables thread I am looking at ways to reward the more consistent players and also ways to keep up the interest to the end of the month.
I find that clear leaders sit on their profit and players attempting to qualify for the Cup are doing the same which leads to many players not picking selections in the last couple of days or more.
Just to be clear I have no feelings one way or another on how players go about approaching the competition, we all have our own way of betting, we just want everyone to feel they have something to play for.
I have noticed over the last few months some rumblings about the way players approach the Naps competition and there is no doubt we have had a shift in more players going for the speculative outsider than we have before.
I had a look at the figures and we are regularly hitting around the 19% S/R these days where as before we were often around the 25% mark. This is totally down to more players going for 25/1+ selections.
The players who genuinely sift through the cards to find their best bet of the day feel as though they have no chance in winning the monthly competition. I can see once a player has hit a 50/1 winner just playing for a Cup place is not the best of incentives.
I think we can reward performance and profit and have been looking at the last 12 months figures to see how we can do it.
At first I thought it would be best just to award the player with the highest strike rate a percentage of the winners prize but I also don't think encouraging people to select 1/4 shots everyday is helping anyone, so taking that a step further, what about if we had a profit figure that you needed to surpass as well?
If we say took the highest strike rate of those that made a profit in the month of at least £10 that would kill off any ideas of odds on shots every single day. Of course you would expect some short priced horses to be chosen and I have no problem with that, if its a Nap, its a Nap but by having the £10 figure it really rewards those that have performed well that month.
I have done a couple of tables to show how it would have panned out since January 2019 up until last month. Interestingly just 2 winners of the comp came out with the best S/R. 8 players were in the top 4 cash prizes but it would have given 7 players a prize that wouldn't have normally received anything. I would say overall that suits most type of punter. Of course people may bet differently knowing about the new prize.
In the second table i took away the upper profit limit and this highlighted the problem of players sitting on a small profit just to qualify for the Cup, I feel this would just get worse if there was a prize for the highest S/R only.
I propose a prize of £20 for player with the highest SR that has at least £10 profit on the month. This prize may well go to a player in the top 4 already but the winner of the whole competition will still quite rightly win the most cash whatever the result.
The second part of the new formula is to limit the amount of players qualifying for the Cup. At the minute anyone finishing in profit (or even, lol) gains automatic qualification into the following months KO Cup. This can be as many as 30+ players and this often leads to a few players reaching a profit figure and then stopping posting for last few days of the month, or even worse players reaching 15 bets and then just stopping. 
If we had a figure of 25 players only to qualify for the Cup then it would make it more exciting and something to aim for in the final few days of the month. I will also award a runners up prize for the KO Cup which has been asked for in the past.
I am not looking to change any of the main rules of the comp, i think we should keep the main core of what the comp is all about ie; picking one horse per day. So we wont be changing that or messing about with stakes etc.....
Let me know if you think this would be a way forward, please bare in mind we have a budget and we want to keep things simple.
 
Proposals as from April 1st
Winner : £60
Second : £30
Third : £20
Fourth: £10
Highest S/R with min £10 Profit : £20
Cup Winner: £30
Cup Runners Up: £10
Top 25 only to qualify for Cup.
 
Table of those with the highest S/R and achieving a £10 profit 

 
 
Table of those with the highest S/R, no upper limit on profit
Those in grey did not make the £10 profit mark.

 

Thy problem with that was we had two or three people just picking 1/6 shots everyday, do we really want that, does it really add anything to the pot??
I think its a great achievement to pick a 25/1 winner never mind have it as your number 1 bet of the day. Fair play to them.
We could look at changing the prize structure, i'll have a think guys..we could have a prize that involves Profit and performance for sure.

@Ulrikbefore entering any competition it is always a good idea to read the rules.
You can a single, a double or a treble
NOT 5 singles

Mar 3
15 winners

Money received, thank you. 

Fluke! Hours of studying went into that he told me.