LeMale

There have been some valid questions and valid points made already by my colleges above and i am a little confused on some things. 
Firstly MClarke, i thought, (though i could be wrong, memory isn't what it used to be) said somewhere through the Zilzalian Problem thread, that a possible change to the rules could happen if everyone agreed and that it would be discussed in the Naps thread. I waited for this to appear to see other peoples views, but alas, it did not appear. If this is that, then i apologise, but your heading would appear to be saying that you ARE changing the rules and it's happening from the 1st September and although you mention at the end about objections, i would have thought that you should have started with this, if in fact, it is not yet a done deal. (My personal understanding was that there would be a vote) 
Ok, the "Zilzilian Problem". I love the banter on here, lots of us punters all with different views and some like to express it and defend it, while others just get entertained reading it! I think i've only seen a couple that have maybe gone a bit too far, but normally, all good fun and banter. The argument here, imo and reading between the lines, was Zilzalian was asking for the rules to be looked at and possibly amended and some thought he was throwing his dummy out the pram not getting the points in the Nap comp. I am sure Zilzalian was peeved-off but i never read that he wanted it changed so he could have his picks and prices re-instated. The reading between the lines bit comes from the "likes" for his posts and "likes" for the comments under his posts from other people, of which there were a lot. Now i could be wrong, but imo that meant most (myself included) were disagreeing with the "Problem" but it might have just been some were not happy at the way it was worded and got the wrong end of the stick and i don't think he helped himself when he basically called us idiots and told us to read it again and put ourselves in his shoes. Well i did that the first time because i'm not an idiot, i just follow the rules because i've read them and i don't agree or understand why some are in place, but i still follow them. (looks like i'm having a pop at you here mate, sorry not meant to be, but can't be bothered to re-word, maybe it was the same for you) I still see some of us using bookies that are not used on PL and some that say "with most" another Problem waiting to happen. It's a shame this point wasn't raised before the 28-1 winner or even before the other winner.....why didn't you? Also want to make it clear i am NOT speaking on everyones behalf just in case anyone thought that, with my "reading between the lines" theory and no offence was intended to Zilzilian, who i don't always agree with, but do most of the time and always read what he has to write especially when him and The Equalizer are going at it, i love it. 
I've waffled on a bit here but, my main problem comes with this screenshot. Surprised you didn't say that it should be posted when putting the nap on in the first place as mentioned above and PercyP about that delaying the evening table point. Also, there is No Time on these that i can see and surely that's a problem. Many a time when putting up my Nap after putting on my bets as i go and deciding what to put up (can take hours, a bit like this message) i find i've lost the price of my bet and have to put it up at lesser odds, but now are you saying i can just screenshot my bet from earlier and use that? (not that i know how to do that, but you would have to allow it because you are for the overseas races) Most importantly is the extra work and hassle it will cause you, which will get worse if more people start doing it. I don't know where you confirm everyones odds (oddschecker?) but if it's on there, then fair enough, but i'm assuming some are not and that's where we are. If MClarke says he doesn't want the extra work then that's it, no rule change. If however he says he doesn't mind (which is what it looks like) then imo there should be a vote (not that my opinion counts for anything, it's not my site!) and what ever the outcome i will follow. I will also say that i have brought up these points because i have the time and i don't mind if people think i'm just talking out my back-side, i'm speaking on behalf of people who haven't the time and/or are a bit shy to say something. Anyway, hope it all gets resolved soon, hope i have not offended any one and if i have i'm sorry it wasn't my intention to do so. 

OMG, no flat racing in UK or Ireland, i'm going to have to look overseas....now, what are those rules again.... ?

OMG, no flat racing in UK or Ireland, i'm going to have to look overseas....now, what are those rules again.... ?

OMG, no flat racing in UK or Ireland, i'm going to have to look overseas....now, what are those rules again.... ?

OMG, no flat racing in UK or Ireland, i'm going to have to look overseas....now, what are those rules again.... ?

OMG, no flat racing in UK or Ireland, i'm going to have to look overseas....now, what are those rules again.... ?

Chepstow 3pm
 
 
Danny Bleu  11/1 Bet365

tea garden 845 south 18/1 bet365

Congrats @Zilzalian for winning and all others in the money. Big thank you to @MCLARKE for all his time and effort in running yet another great comp.  

No problem. I, and i think everybody on here, feels your frustration Zilzalian and we are trying to come to an agreement/possible rule change so that it does not happen again. I don't know about MClarke but i think there have been some good points made, discussed and solved already today. I've already done more bloody typing today than i've done in my whole life, it's like work and i haven't done that for years either! Going to bed now TBC. 

No problem. I, and i think everybody on here, feels your frustration Zilzalian and we are trying to come to an agreement/possible rule change so that it does not happen again. I don't know about MClarke but i think there have been some good points made, discussed and solved already today. I've already done more bloody typing today than i've done in my whole life, it's like work and i haven't done that for years either! Going to bed now TBC. 

Going to assume that you were typing before explanation message came up. You seem to be taking this personally and quoting things that have not been said. This is about whether Punters Lounge members are in agreement that rules should be changed or not. You have brought something to the table and stated your case and most points are valid. MClarke could have just said no, he could have just said yes ok i'm changing that rule and i and many others and you would have just accepted it. But that didn't happen, he said it would be discussed and i think that's what is kind of happening now. I also said i would make a case for people who maybe didn't want the rules changed, but couldn't or were to shy to speak up and write about it and i don't remember saying which way i'd vote.

No problem. I, and i think everybody on here, feels your frustration Zilzalian and we are trying to come to an agreement/possible rule change so that it does not happen again. I don't know about MClarke but i think there have been some good points made, discussed and solved already today. I've already done more bloody typing today than i've done in my whole life, it's like work and i haven't done that for years either! Going to bed now TBC. 

No problem. I, and i think everybody on here, feels your frustration Zilzalian and we are trying to come to an agreement/possible rule change so that it does not happen again. I don't know about MClarke but i think there have been some good points made, discussed and solved already today. I've already done more bloody typing today than i've done in my whole life, it's like work and i haven't done that for years either! Going to bed now TBC. 

My bad, clearly the rules state:
SP Bets only for races in USA, Hong Kong and Australia.
Yet it also mentions:
Early prices can be taken but must be available at the time of the post in the competition thread, these will be checked against   Odds-checker and if the price was not available then SP will be used.

Phew! Was just asking because i thought it was directed at me. 

then all that is required would be this.
 

@harry_ragis correct.
As an example the night before you could select 5 horses at 20/1, the following day 4 remain at 20/1 but one has been backed into 5/1 so you select this as your nap.
The screenshot I posted was also from BET365 so @Zilzaliancould just have easily posted this.
I'm happy to keep the thread open, I find it mildly entertaining !

Unless someone, somewhere has written something i've not seen, i can't see who this is addressed to. 

There have been some valid questions and valid points made already by my colleges above and i am a little confused on some things. 
Firstly MClarke, i thought, (though i could be wrong, memory isn't what it used to be) said somewhere through the Zilzalian Problem thread, that a possible change to the rules could happen if everyone agreed and that it would be discussed in the Naps thread. I waited for this to appear to see other peoples views, but alas, it did not appear. If this is that, then i apologise, but your heading would appear to be saying that you ARE changing the rules and it's happening from the 1st September and although you mention at the end about objections, i would have thought that you should have started with this, if in fact, it is not yet a done deal. (My personal understanding was that there would be a vote) 
Ok, the "Zilzilian Problem". I love the banter on here, lots of us punters all with different views and some like to express it and defend it, while others just get entertained reading it! I think i've only seen a couple that have maybe gone a bit too far, but normally, all good fun and banter. The argument here, imo and reading between the lines, was Zilzalian was asking for the rules to be looked at and possibly amended and some thought he was throwing his dummy out the pram not getting the points in the Nap comp. I am sure Zilzalian was peeved-off but i never read that he wanted it changed so he could have his picks and prices re-instated. The reading between the lines bit comes from the "likes" for his posts and "likes" for the comments under his posts from other people, of which there were a lot. Now i could be wrong, but imo that meant most (myself included) were disagreeing with the "Problem" but it might have just been some were not happy at the way it was worded and got the wrong end of the stick and i don't think he helped himself when he basically called us idiots and told us to read it again and put ourselves in his shoes. Well i did that the first time because i'm not an idiot, i just follow the rules because i've read them and i don't agree or understand why some are in place, but i still follow them. (looks like i'm having a pop at you here mate, sorry not meant to be, but can't be bothered to re-word, maybe it was the same for you) I still see some of us using bookies that are not used on PL and some that say "with most" another Problem waiting to happen. It's a shame this point wasn't raised before the 28-1 winner or even before the other winner.....why didn't you? Also want to make it clear i am NOT speaking on everyones behalf just in case anyone thought that, with my "reading between the lines" theory and no offence was intended to Zilzilian, who i don't always agree with, but do most of the time and always read what he has to write especially when him and The Equalizer are going at it, i love it. 
I've waffled on a bit here but, my main problem comes with this screenshot. Surprised you didn't say that it should be posted when putting the nap on in the first place as mentioned above and PercyP about that delaying the evening table point. Also, there is No Time on these that i can see and surely that's a problem. Many a time when putting up my Nap after putting on my bets as i go and deciding what to put up (can take hours, a bit like this message) i find i've lost the price of my bet and have to put it up at lesser odds, but now are you saying i can just screenshot my bet from earlier and use that? (not that i know how to do that, but you would have to allow it because you are for the overseas races) Most importantly is the extra work and hassle it will cause you, which will get worse if more people start doing it. I don't know where you confirm everyones odds (oddschecker?) but if it's on there, then fair enough, but i'm assuming some are not and that's where we are. If MClarke says he doesn't want the extra work then that's it, no rule change. If however he says he doesn't mind (which is what it looks like) then imo there should be a vote (not that my opinion counts for anything, it's not my site!) and what ever the outcome i will follow. I will also say that i have brought up these points because i have the time and i don't mind if people think i'm just talking out my back-side, i'm speaking on behalf of people who haven't the time and/or are a bit shy to say something. Anyway, hope it all gets resolved soon, hope i have not offended any one and if i have i'm sorry it wasn't my intention to do so. 

To be honest I've just had to ask my daughter to help me with the screenshot I've put on here.
To clarify, it is only for international races that a screenshot is necessary.

No offence taken !
To be honest I'm trying to make life a bit easier for myself, international races are quite difficult to check.
It would be easy for me to just say that they are not eligible but I am aware there are a small number of players that wish to select international races.
With regard to the timing of the screen shot I agree that it should be within a reasonable time of the posting on here.
I

There have been some valid questions and valid points made already by my colleges above and i am a little confused on some things. 
Firstly MClarke, i thought, (though i could be wrong, memory isn't what it used to be) said somewhere through the Zilzalian Problem thread, that a possible change to the rules could happen if everyone agreed and that it would be discussed in the Naps thread. I waited for this to appear to see other peoples views, but alas, it did not appear. If this is that, then i apologise, but your heading would appear to be saying that you ARE changing the rules and it's happening from the 1st September and although you mention at the end about objections, i would have thought that you should have started with this, if in fact, it is not yet a done deal. (My personal understanding was that there would be a vote) 
Ok, the "Zilzilian Problem". I love the banter on here, lots of us punters all with different views and some like to express it and defend it, while others just get entertained reading it! I think i've only seen a couple that have maybe gone a bit too far, but normally, all good fun and banter. The argument here, imo and reading between the lines, was Zilzalian was asking for the rules to be looked at and possibly amended and some thought he was throwing his dummy out the pram not getting the points in the Nap comp. I am sure Zilzalian was peeved-off but i never read that he wanted it changed so he could have his picks and prices re-instated. The reading between the lines bit comes from the "likes" for his posts and "likes" for the comments under his posts from other people, of which there were a lot. Now i could be wrong, but imo that meant most (myself included) were disagreeing with the "Problem" but it might have just been some were not happy at the way it was worded and got the wrong end of the stick and i don't think he helped himself when he basically called us idiots and told us to read it again and put ourselves in his shoes. Well i did that the first time because i'm not an idiot, i just follow the rules because i've read them and i don't agree or understand why some are in place, but i still follow them. (looks like i'm having a pop at you here mate, sorry not meant to be, but can't be bothered to re-word, maybe it was the same for you) I still see some of us using bookies that are not used on PL and some that say "with most" another Problem waiting to happen. It's a shame this point wasn't raised before the 28-1 winner or even before the other winner.....why didn't you? Also want to make it clear i am NOT speaking on everyones behalf just in case anyone thought that, with my "reading between the lines" theory and no offence was intended to Zilzilian, who i don't always agree with, but do most of the time and always read what he has to write especially when him and The Equalizer are going at it, i love it. 
I've waffled on a bit here but, my main problem comes with this screenshot. Surprised you didn't say that it should be posted when putting the nap on in the first place as mentioned above and PercyP about that delaying the evening table point. Also, there is No Time on these that i can see and surely that's a problem. Many a time when putting up my Nap after putting on my bets as i go and deciding what to put up (can take hours, a bit like this message) i find i've lost the price of my bet and have to put it up at lesser odds, but now are you saying i can just screenshot my bet from earlier and use that? (not that i know how to do that, but you would have to allow it because you are for the overseas races) Most importantly is the extra work and hassle it will cause you, which will get worse if more people start doing it. I don't know where you confirm everyones odds (oddschecker?) but if it's on there, then fair enough, but i'm assuming some are not and that's where we are. If MClarke says he doesn't want the extra work then that's it, no rule change. If however he says he doesn't mind (which is what it looks like) then imo there should be a vote (not that my opinion counts for anything, it's not my site!) and what ever the outcome i will follow. I will also say that i have brought up these points because i have the time and i don't mind if people think i'm just talking out my back-side, i'm speaking on behalf of people who haven't the time and/or are a bit shy to say something. Anyway, hope it all gets resolved soon, hope i have not offended any one and if i have i'm sorry it wasn't my intention to do so. 

I started writing that at about 12:00hrs!! You have already started to answer some points i now see. 

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