WorkingForTheEnemy Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 This is a hybrid of the "The bookies wrong" system. I dont feel as covinced that this will produce results hence why Im running the two seperatly although the selection process is the same. This is a paper trail fixed system which I have decided to test out. This has had no testing at all so caution is advised. Selections are made due to teams that have created a profit through constant backing of the draw. For a team to have made constant profit from drawing, the bookie must be pricing these games wrongly,hence the name of the system. Bet selections will include all English and Scottish League games. Each bet will be 1pt and I will start with a bank of 100pts. All odds will be best available at the time of posting from odds-comparison. The selection will be the draw. Selections Man.City - A.Villa 9/4 (Bet365,P.Power) WBA - Man.Utd 3/1 (BetDirect) Birmingham - Norwich 12/5 (StanJames,SportingOdds) Rotherham - Leeds 9/4 (Bet365,P.Power) Bristol C - Sheff Wed 23/10 (Bet365) Barnsley - Blackpool 9/4 (B365,P.Power) Mansfield - L.Orient 9/4 (B365,Ladbrokes) Wycombe - Bristol R 9/4 (Bet365,Ladbrokes) Total Stake: 8pts New Bank: 92pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Just a note to clear things up. I originally posted that the selection would be in bold.(Copy and paste job from other thread) As this system is for selecting draws, the selection for all games will be the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Man.City - A.Villa 2-0 Returns: 0pts WBA - Man.Utd 0-3 Returns: 0pts Birmingham - Norwich 1-1 Returns: 3.40pts Rotherham - Leeds 1-0 Returns: 0pts Bristol C - Sheff Wed 1-4 Returns: 0pts Barnsley - Blackpool 1-0 Returns: 0pts Mansfield - L.Orient 0-1 Returns: 0pts Wycombe - Bristol R 1-0 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 8pts Total Returns: 3.40pts Profit/Loss: -4.60pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 95.40pts Profit: -4.60pts Stakes: 8pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -57.50% No. of bets:8 Winners:1 Losers:7 SR:12.50% Av. Sel.Odds:3.37 Av.Win Odds:3.40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections Arsenal - Birmingham 4/1 (P.Power) Man.Utd - Southampton 4.94/1 (Betfair(after comm.)) Watford - Stoke 9/4 (B365,P.Power) Leeds - Leicester 9/4 (B365,Ladbrokes) Total Stake: 4pts New Bank: 91.40pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Arsenal - Birmingham 3-0 Returns: 0pts Man.Utd - Southampton 3-0 Returns: 0pts Watford - Stoke 0-1 Returns: 0pts Leeds - Leicester 0-2 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 4pts Total Returns: 0.00pts Profit/Loss: -4.00pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 91.40pts Profit: -8.60pts Stakes: 12pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -71.67% No. of bets:12 Winners:1 Losers:11 SR:8.33% Av. Sel.Odds:3.70 Av.Win Odds:3.40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) I did have bets for midweek but due to lack of recent sleep I kinda fell asleep and didnt wake up until halfway through tonights games. :o What makes matters worse is they would have shown a profit , having 2 draws from 5 selections. Anyway there's one selection for Wednesday. Selection Boston - Rushden 5/2 (B365,S.James) Total Stake: 1pt New Bank: 90.40pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Boston - Rushden 1-0 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 1pts Total Returns: 0.00pts Profit/Loss: -1.00pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 90.40pts Profit: -9.60pts Stakes: 13pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -73.85% No. of bets:13 Winners:1 Losers:12 SR:7.69% Av. Sel.Odds:3.68 Av.Win Odds:3.40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Im positive I posted up last weekends selections here. Maybe Im just going mad! :( Anyway, as I have the results I wont post the actual matches but will add them to the totals. It made a slight loss anyway so they shouldnt be any accusations of cheating, Im hardly going to make up a loss. Total Stake: 5pts Total Returns: 3.25pts Profit/Loss: -1.75pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 88.65pts Profit: -11.35pts Stakes: 18pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -63.06% No. of bets:18 Winners:2 Losers:16 SR:11.11% Av. Sel.Odds:3.57 Av.Win Odds:3.33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections Nottm Forest - Leicester 9/4 (Blue Square) Birmingham - WBA 2.47/1 (Betfair) Coventry - Watford 9/4 (P.Power) Shrewsbury - Mansfield 9/4 (B365) Cambridge - Bury 9/4 (B365) Wycombe - Lincoln 12/5 (B365) Total Stake: 6pts New Bank: 82.65pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 18, 2004 Author Share Posted December 18, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Two winning selections brings us our first slice of profit. Results Nottm Forest - Leicester 1-1 Returns: 3.25pts Birmingham - WBA 4-0 Returns: 0pts Coventry - Watford 1-0 Returns: 0pts Shrewsbury - Mansfield 0-2 Returns: 0pts Cambridge - Bury 1-1 Returns: 3.25pts Wycombe - Lincoln 1-0 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 6pts Total Returns: 6.50pts Profit/Loss: 0.50pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 89.15pts Profit: -10.85pts Stakes: 24pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -45.21% No. of bets:24 Winners:4 Losers:20 SR:20.00% Av. Sel.Odds:3.51 Av.Win Odds:3.29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections (26th/27th)Coventry - Sheff.Utd 2.33/1 (Betfair) Leicester - Rotherham 3.13/1 (Betfair) Bristol Rovers - Leyton Orient 2.38/1 (Betfair) Total Stake: 3pts New Bank: 86.15pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 27, 2004 Author Share Posted December 27, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Results Coventry - Sheff Utd 1-2 Returns: 0pts Leicester - Rotherham 0-1 Returns: 0pts Bristol Rovers - Leyton Orient 1-1 Returns: 3.38pts Total Stake: 3pts Total Returns: 3.38pts Profit/Loss: 0.38pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 89.53pts Profit: -10.47pts Stakes: 27pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -38.78% No. of bets:27 Winners:5 Losers:22 SR:18.52% Av. Sel.Odds:3.52 Av.Win Odds:3.31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 27, 2004 Author Share Posted December 27, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections (28th/29th) Aston Villa - Man Utd 2.61/1 (Betfair) Sheff Utd - Leicester 9/4 (Bet365) Cheltenham - Bristol Rovers 2.33/1 (Betfair) Total Stake: 3pts New Bank: 86.53pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLubet Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Just A Short Note To Say I Am Following With Interest, Pity About The First Set Of Results Being So Bad As System Has Picked Up And Is Showing Potential.do U Have A Projected Overall % Return That U Would B Happy With ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Thanks for the interest Lubet. TBH as this system is completly untrie Id be happy with any profit level at all. Its simply an idea I stumbled across and thought Id put to the test so they arent any real expectation levels, more a test to see if any profit at all can be made from it? Out of interest, are you following just this draw version or are you also watching the Home/Away version too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 1, 2005 Author Share Posted January 1, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Results (28th/29th) Aston Villa - Man Utd 0-1 Returns: 0pts Sheff Utd - Leicester 2-0 Returns: 0pts Cheltenham - Bristol Rovers 1-1 Returns: 3.33pts Total Stake: 3pts Total Returns: 3.33pts Profit/Loss: 0.33pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 89.86pts Profit: -10.14pts Stakes: 30pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -33.80% No. of bets:30 Winners:6 Losers:24 SR:20.00% Av. Sel.Odds:3.51 Av.Win Odds:3.31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 1, 2005 Author Share Posted January 1, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections (1st/2nd) Newcastle - Birmingham 2.52/1 (Betfair) Aston Villa - Blackburn 12/5 (Paddy Power) Burnley - Leicester 9/4 (B365) Lincoln - Bury 2.38/1 (Betfair) Total Stake: 4pts New Bank: 85.86pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLubet Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Following all your threads and everybody else's.The draws give a better return if you can get in the groove.I'm working on my own draws at the moment. I do have an expection level and that would be a 25% yield and above.I find the more you watch other people's systems the more u learn and can transfer to your own. Signed : The Lubet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) The Burnley - Leicester game was postponed and will not be included in the stakes or results. Results (1st/2nd) Newcastle - Birmingham 2-1 Returns: 0pts Aston Villa - Blackburn 1-0 Returns: 0pts Lincoln - Bury 1-0 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 3pts Total Returns: 0.00pts Profit/Loss: -3.00pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 86.86pts Profit: -13.14pts Stakes: 33pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -39.82% No. of bets:33 Winners:6 Losers:27 SR:18.18% Av. Sel.Odds:3.47 Av.Win Odds:3.31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections (3rd/4th) Chester - Lincoln 2.47/1 (Betfair) Boston - Leyton Orient 2.38/1 (Betfair) Total Stake: 2pts New Bank: 84.86pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Results (3rd/4th) Chester - Lincoln 0-1 Returns: 0pts Boston - Leyton Orient 2-2 Returns: 3.38pts Total Stake: 2pts Total Returns: 3.38pts Profit/Loss: 1.38pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 88.24pts Profit: -11.76pts Stakes: 35pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -33.60% No. of bets:35 Winners:7 Losers:28 SR:20.00% Av. Sel.Odds:3.47 Av.Win Odds:3.32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Im only applying this to league games so a reduced number of selections for this week. Selections(8th/9th) Bury - Leyton Orient 9/4 (Stan James) Total Stake: 1pt New Bank: 87.24pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Results(8th/9th) Bury - Leyton Orient 0-0 Returns: 3.25pts Total Stake: 1pt Total Returns: 3.25pts Profit/Loss: 2.25pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 90.49pts Profit: -9.51pts Stakes: 36pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -26.42% No. of bets:36 Winners:8 Losers:28 SR:22.22% Av. Sel.Odds:3.46 Av.Win Odds:3.31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections(14th-16th) Newcastle - Southampton 2.85/1 Betfair Leyton Orient - Grimsby 23/10 Bet365 Cheltenham - Rushden 12/5 Bet365 Hearts - Dundee Utd 2.66/1 Betfair Total Stake: 4pt New Bank: 86.49pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Results(14th-16th) Newcastle - Southampton 2-1 Returns: 0pts Leyton Orient - Grimsby 1-2 Returns: 0pts Cheltenham - Rushden 4-1 Returns: 0pts Hearts - Dundee Utd 3-2 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 4pt Total Returns: 0pts Profit/Loss: -4pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 86.49pts Profit: -13.51pts Stakes: 40pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -33.78% No. of bets:40 Winners:8 Losers:32 SR:20.00% Av. Sel.Odds:3.47 Av.Win Odds:3.31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Selections(22nd-23rd) West Brom - Man City 9/4 (Bet365) Cardiff - Burnley 9/4 (Bet365) Grimsby - Lincoln 9/4 (P.Power) Rushden - Leyton Orient 2.7 (Betfair) Bristol Rovers - Cheltenham 12/5 (Ladbrokes) Arsenal - Newcastle 3.1 (Betfair) Total Stake: 6pts New Bank: 80.49pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 Re: The bookies wrong!(Draw edition) Results(22nd-23rd) West Brom - Man City 2-0 Returns: 0pts Cardiff - Burnley 2-0 Returns: 0pts Grimsby - Lincoln 2-4 Returns: 0pts Rushden - Leyton Orient 2-0 Returns: 0pts Bristol Rovers - Cheltenham 1-1 Returns: 3.4pts Arsenal - Newcastle 1-0 Returns: 0pts Total Stake: 6pt Total Returns: 3.4pts Profit/Loss: -2.6pts UPDATE Start Bank: 100pts Current Bank: 83.89pts Profit: -16.11pts Stakes: 46pts Av.Stake: 1pts Yield: -35.02% No. of bets:46 Winners:9 Losers:37 SR:19.57% Av. Sel.Odds:3.45 Av.Win Odds:3.32 I feel the results so far have shown that there is not much hope for this system and therefore I am concluding this test here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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