dave Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 S Grosjean to beat R Ginepri @ 1.4 (various) Grosjean has cruised through so far and is 2-0 h2h, and shouldn't encounter any problems here. Not exactly big odds, but the only bet I can see for Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffers Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Re: Wimbledon Week 2 agreed dave, as I have said in the other thread ;) I have Grosjean at 4.50 to get to the Semis with Paddys (Mr Bookie Buster, you are right about them making massive errors :lol ) and my confidence is not moved here in the slightest - nobody in this quarter can stop Grosjean, which is why I took the bet. Grosjean will win :loon (I hope :lol ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Bookie Buster Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Wimbledon Week 2 Paddies and mistakes go hand in hand alright Jeffers. Keep researching their website prices and I can assure you that the more you know about a sport, the more mistakes you will be able to spot. I have come to the conclusion that their Odds Compiliers are actually Children who come in and do the Odds after school. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattyNeth Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Re: Wimbledon Week 2 ANyone else think Philliposis (?) has a great chance against Henman who hasn't looked that impressive so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Monday Matches Men's Matches : Pretty much fancy a Grosjean-Hewitt double for the gents'. All that needs to be said about Grosjean has pretty much been said. As for Hewitt, there's little question he's getting back to the sort of form that saw him win Wimbledon in 2002. He may not be a world beater and is well capable of the occasional lapses which could see an upset in the making, but sadly I just can't see Moya(a hopeless player on grass who has never gotten past the second round before this year and who hasn't competed at Wimbledon for the last 2 years - not exactly elements that will boost his chances against a rejuvenated Hewitt) doing it. Great price for the double(1.90 at Hills). Another bet that has caught my eye has got to be Malisse to edge out Ancic. Malisse has been playing some sublime stuff this year - stuff you never thought he'd be capable of in yesteryears. So long as Malisse performs the way he's done in the last round, he should be worth the value on offer. Ladie's Matches : Fancy a Sprem-Sugiyama double here as both seem to have the pedigree to hold off their opponents. Sprem certainly did much to surprise a few people by sending Venus packing in the last round and her play so far has generally been - at a very modest estimate - two notches above that of Maleeva's. As for Sugiyama, she's simply a more experienced player than Tanasugarn and that should tell today. Double rakes in 2.6(Hills). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 careful Quite new to this tennis punting, as with the football season I only tend to bet during wimbledon, so if anyone has any useful sites for H2H and player history it would be most appreciated. Agree with Matt that Phil is overpriced against Henman I took the 2.4 at Betfair for 40pts yesterday and really fancy him to progress - will Henman handle the serve? I'm sure Phil can handle the crowd and his power game appear's to suit the grass with his final appearance last year. Looks a decent bet. Ed - I really fancied a Sugiyama, Grosjean double before finding out Tanasugarn beat Maleeva in one of the two tournaments leading upto Wimbledon, Sugiyama was beaten by Maleeva earlier on in the year but i'm not sure of the comp or surface. I also have Golovin to see off Gagliardi with the third set at 3-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoup Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Re: careful I fancy Mark Phillippoussis to beat Henman. The H2H are 6-2 in favour of the Australian.. I havent been able to find out on what surfaces these matches were contested and which years but its a good indicator.. Both are serve volleyers so I imagine the match will hinge on the Scud's serve.. If he getting that first server in byebye Henman.. I was expecting around 1.85/1.95 in Henman's favour but the bookies have either taken Henmans French Open form into account and/or the weight of british money that will get lumped on the local lad.. I didnt get 2.4 I took 2.3 at Olympic (thegreek).. Goodluck all.. Twoup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattyNeth Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Re: careful Just had 15pts on Philly at 2.36 on Betfair. Just think he's serve is going to blow Henman away as per others on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CJ Mars Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Re: careful Quite new to this tennis punting, as with the football season I only tend to bet during wimbledon, so if anyone has any useful sites for H2H and player history it would be most appreciated. For Men’s Tennis try the ATP official site www.atptour.com For the Ladies try the WTA site www.sanexwtatour.com Good unofficial sites are www.tenniscorner.net and Steve G’s tennis page (lost the link but easily googled). Most of the specialist tennis forums are poor with obssesives cheering on every point on live score and non gambling focused although you can dredge up some useful info on injuries and so on. Ed - I really fancied a Sugiyama, Grosjean double before finding out Tanasugarn beat Maleeva in one of the two tournaments leading upto Wimbledon, Sugiyama was beaten by Maleeva earlier on in the year but i'm not sure of the comp or surface. That was at Brimingham DFS and Maleeva simply threw it away. She was a set up and 4-1 up in the second before self destructing. Maleeva is overrated on grass IMHO anyway. She beat Sugiyama on carpet earlier this year but has been beaten by her 6 from 6 on other surfaces. Sugiyama also leads Tansaguran 3-0 in H to H and I strongly fancy her to make it 4-0 today. The courts are slower than normal and the better player should win out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 much appreciated Cheers for the info CJ, love watching tennis - particularly that Golovin:eek . Hopefully make some cash out it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Sugiyama That's what I was about to say - forgot to add Sugiyama leads 2-0 on h2h. Anyway, Grosjean is almost done and dusted now. Had a wee quid on a Grosjean-Hewitt-Malisse treble to go along with a Sugiyama-Sprem double. Thinking about an upset for Davenport's match - Zvonareva is no mug and as I write, she's 5-3 down in 1st set... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattyNeth Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Philly being heavily backed on the exchanges He's been backed into 2.02 now:eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr chips Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Henman v Philippousis I am with the Big Aussie on this one also. I have nothing much to really add than what has been said on this thread. Henman has been less than convincing I feel so far in the championship. Philippousis has quietly gone about his business in the 1st 3 matches and his big serrving should be too much for Henman. 15pts at 11/10 B365. Cheers for the tip on the earlier double of Hewitt and Grosjean, assuming Hewitt can finish tings off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattyNeth Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Henman v Philippousis Henman has had 2 match points at 2-1 sets and 5-3 in 4th. Philly was 22.0 on Betfair a second ago:loon Now into 3.9 If this goes to a tie break which looks likely I'd take Philly to win the set and the match, though the 5th set may be played tomorrow as it 8.30pm now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stebed Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 philly saw Mark drift to 34 before coming into 3.9. However Henman deserved the victory, his serving's improved since I last watched him and the unforced error's he's cut down. Disappointed with Philly, except for his serving.:cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffers Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Re: philly I'm having a massive bet on Sharapova tomorrow - 1.31 on Betfair. She's going to win slams soon (if not this week, I've backed her at 5.90)... and should have too much for Sugiyama who has come about as far as she ever will in this tourny. Sigiyama lost to Hantuchova at Eastbourne, and Hantuchova wwas dismissed easily by Sharapova in R3 here...easy win imo. :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Wimbledon Week 2 It looks like a nice Grosjean/Sharapova double @ 1.6 best price with either B365 or Paddy Power. Reasons for Sharapova by Jeffers above, she is just pure class and up and running now while Mayer has had it and should see the red light tomorrow, not least due to the lack of experience @ this level. Can't actually back Federer, Henman or Roddick @ the prices, even less so in doubles or trebles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kojic2003 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Tennis Quite new to this tennis punting, as with the football season I only tend to bet during wimbledon, so if anyone has any useful sites for H2H and player history it would be most appreciated. Try this one: tennis.matchstat.com :ok My favourite! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CJ Mars Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Re: Tennis I'm having a massive bet on Sharapova tomorrow - 1.31 on Betfair. I think she is massive value as well. I’d make her around 1.2 for this one. Her record on all surfaces versus the top 25 players is far superior to Sugiyama. The latter is 4-10 on grass (top 50) and 2-5 (top 25 only). Shrapova’s stats are 8-2 (top 50) and 4-1 (top 25 only). She’s on a great run of form and Sugiyama has been carrying an injury since the Fed Cup in April after which her form went to pot when she couldn’t manage back to back wins in her next 5 tournaments prior to coming through an easy route to the last 16 in Wimbledon. I don’t see Sharapova winning a Slam this year though. Looking at her record versus the big guns she’ll need to beat its pretty poor with only 3 victories over the ever prone to self destruction Dementieva to boast about over top 10 players. I don’t think Champagne Sharapova is quite there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Wimbledon Week 2 I cant really bring myself to back Sharapova at this price, she is playing well but can she really be justifed at 1.25 in a quarter final? Sugiyama isnt great but she is experianced and she does know her way around the court. I think Shara will win but it certainly isnt a bet I would go steaming in on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffers Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: Wimbledon Week 2 Ok tomorrow two things stand out... Firstly, Federer 3-0 can be layed at 2.12 which for me is just about the best lay I've ever seen (apart from Sharapova :p ). as I said in another thread, Hewitt is peaking for this and I really can see a win, if not, he'll surely get a set :eek :eek Secondly, I'm having a massive bet on Grosjean to secure the semi final place (which could have been backed pre-tourny at 7/2 with Paddies, still can't get over that :lol )...he'll have too much for Mayer, who did well to get this far, much like his countryman Popp has a couple of times. Grosjean has too much guile (sp?:\ ) and experience on grass at this level, and will systematically take him apart in 3, maybe 4 if he loses the 3rd set. :gimme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kojic2003 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Davenport Davenport(1.73 at Paddy Power) to beat Sharapova This is a great offer.Sharapova is easily losing her form and this could be the end for this girl.Davenport is better at the moment,is in better form and will reach the semis at the end of the day IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffers Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: Davenport This is a great offer.Sharapova is easily losing her form and this could be the end for this girl. kojic, I couldn't disagree more - Sharapova has looked sensational and after she realised what she needed to do to beat Sugiyama, she despatched her with ease...please explain what you mean by here losing her form :eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CJ Mars Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: Davenport This is a great offer.Sharapova is easily losing her form and this could be the end for this girl. 10 grass court wins on the bounce. At number 12 at her highest ranking. Bet most players would like that kind of form loss ;) . Having said that I fancy Davenport to win this too. Watched extended highlights of all yesterday’s matches and have to say that Sharapova made heavy enough weather of beating a limited Sugiyama. Davenport hasn’t been stretched at all yet (playing an injured Sprem helped) although I’m a bit concerned she will seize up (injury wise) if pushed to the wire. As I said before the Sugiyama match Sharapova has come up short to date versus the very best (3-9 versus top 10 players and all wins versus the ever erratic Demetieva) and Davenport has had a pretty decent season to date considering her various injuries. This will be a game of big hitters and I just think that Davenport has the edge in experience and wiles to take Sharapova out of it. Stating the obvious but Mauresmo should be a shoo in versus Suarez as well even at very short 1.22 (betfair). Suarez has had a great season (both singles and doubles) but she’s never convinced versus the crème de la crème and I can’t see anything changing today. She froze completely in the Roland Garros semis and with half an eye on winning her third Grand Slam Doubles of the year with Pascual I can see her getting battered in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kojic2003 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 ... 10 grass court wins on the bounce. At number 12 at her highest ranking. Bet most players would like that kind of form loss Come on! :) This is women's tennis. :D You can't blindly follow the stats.Those wins and streaks means absolutely nothing at this stage IMO,especially in such a big tournament like Wimbledon is.The most of "out-of-top-ten" girls are mediocore players nowadays.At the moment,I'm not impressed at all with the current performances of Sharapova and I don't understand how can anybody believe that this girl could win any big tournament!?As long as both Serena and Henin play this game,I doubt she can be even close to win the Slams.She can have 20 or 30 wins on grass,but it would be the same: only Davenport can beat Davenport(or injury(in the worst case) can stop her) in this match,not Sharapova. Also,I backed Serena Williams(1.30) to beat Capriati in my combo,with the small stake.All respect to Capriati,but she's playing very poor tennis IMO.Yes,she has beaten Serena not so long ago,but it was a very lucky win.Serena didn't play for a very long time and it was a one logical scenario.It's payback time and I expect an easy win for Williams here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CJ Mars Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: ... Come on! This is women's tennis. You can't blindly follow the stats. Not sure what you are saying there as I am in completely in agreement with you in Davenport. I am basing my opinion partly on the stats which show that Sharapova has yet to make the leap to playing with the really big girls (in ability terms anyway). My point about Sharapova’s ten wins on the bounce is just that her form is good (relative to 95% of the contestants) but then again I don’t actually rate that highly most of those opponents the highest ranked one being Sugiyma who just doesn’t cut it for me at this level. I NEVER blindly follow stats. Women’s tennis is in my opinion probably the most consistently predictable sport outside Formula 1. Players in the top 10 rarely fall to players outside the top 25. I am struggling to find more than a handful this year. The biggest shock so far in Wimbeldon was probably Venus William’s defeat to Sprem. Venus is currently 8 and Sprem 18 yet that is considered a “shockâ€. In men’s terms the equivalent is Novak beating Schuellter which would hardly be considered a shock. The most of "out-of-top-ten" girls are mediocre players nowadays. Agree completely as per my points above. The service breaks in women’s tennis are an absolute joke, which is probably the main reason for the dominance of the two Belgians and the William’s brothers who so rarely get broken. Elena Dementieva is in the top 10 despite being barely able to hold serve twice in succession. The players who threaten to break through and challenge at the top (Zvonereva, Petrova , Kuznetova) are the ultimate in streaky players following up good shows by going out to non entities As long as both Serena and Henin play this game,I doubt she can be even close to win the Slams. I’m not sure how much longer Serena has left at the top as she seems more concerned about “building a fashion house to rival Versace†(her words) than tennis now. A couple of decent draws and Sharapova is closer than you think to a Slam especially given the spate of injuries that are seeming to plague the top players these days. As I said I don’t think it will be this Wimbeldon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kojic2003 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 ... I’m not sure how much longer Serena has left at the top as she seems more concerned about “building a fashion house to rival Versace†(her words) than tennis now. S.Williams v J.Capriati 6:1 6:1 This should be the answer I think. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CJ Mars Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: ... I didn’t mean today smart arse ;) . I fully expected her to beat Capriati but the price wasn't right. She does seems like she will be focusing her attentions elsewhere in the future given what she has said recently ranking tennis behind "fashion" and "athletics" Care to give me odds about Sharapova never winning a major since you're so lippy today ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: Wimbledon Week 2 jeffers Agree with the lay of Federer 3-0. I will also be laying Roddick 3-0 too against Schalken @ 1.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffers Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Re: Wimbledon Week 2 At the moment,I'm not impressed at all with the current performances of Sharapova and I don't understand how can anybody believe that this girl could win any big tournament!?As long as both Serena and Henin play this game,I doubt she can be even close to win the Slams. kojic, I honestly think you have been watching the wrong matches. Sharapova will win a grand slam, and to infer that she doesn't have a power game is just laughable :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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