rui20andre Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help can i hae a copy of spreashett please([email protected]) I don't understand this: 1-which means numbers 6 and 7? 2-Are chosen as the favorites in each race? 3-What is the minimum odd to bet? 3-How to calculate the odd to get to RETURN(no 10)? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help can i hae a copy of spreashett please([email protected]) I don't understand this: 1-which means numbers 6 and 7? 2-Are chosen as the favorites in each race? 3-What is the minimum odd to bet? 3-How to calculate the odd to get to RETURN(no 10)? Thanks All above questions are answered in previous post's Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help hey furlong. could you do me a favour and send me a copy of your spreadsheet please.. i wanna try something with ur results? ([email protected]) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rui20andre Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help All above questions are answered in previous post's Mike but I don't understand english very well and I don't understand some previous post's Can you help me? please... I don't understand this: 1-which means numbers 6 and 7?what odds? Betfair? 2-Are chosen as the favorites in each race? 3-What is the minimum odd to bet? 3-How to calculate the odd to get to RETURN(no 10)? Thanks send me a copy of your spreadsheet please. [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help but I don't understand english very well and I don't understand some previous post's/quote] If you are unable to undertand some of the previous post then we have a bit of a problem because i will be unable to explain the spreadsheet to you in any other way than already posted. The explanation will be exactly as in this previous post: http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/1420901-post45.html This answers your previous questions. Sorry i cant be more specific Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00y Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Hi furlong i was wondering if you could send me a copy of that spreedsheet. I've got 5 grand to burn an wouldnt mind putting my money where your mouth is lol. My email is [email protected] Thanx in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie24 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help I can't see how this staking systemisn't just a martingalesystem, except you cut and run with a loss at the of the day if you have no winners??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help I can't see how this staking systemisn't just a martingalesystem' date=' except you cut and run with a loss at the of the day if you have no winners???[/quote'] Please explain to me how, from a random section of the spread sheets, how this is a martingale system? 10/07/09 10 3 York 2.15 2 1 5.00 5.00 W 15.00 10 Friday 10 5 Newmarket 2.35 3 1 3.33 5.00 L 10.00 20 Day2-Wk2 20 8 Newmarket 3.10 11 8 14.55 15.00 L 35.00 45 45 13 Ascot 4.10 5 2 18.00 20.00 L 65.00 75 75 3 Chester 6.40 5 2 30.00 30.00 L 105.00 115 115 5 Chepstow 7.00 15 8 61.33 65.00 L 180.00 190 190 8 Chepstow 7.35 3 1 63.33 65.00 L 255.00 265 265 13 Newbury 8.30 2 1 132.50 135.00 W 405.00 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Furlong Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Results up-date for Week 3 of my 'paper-trading' plus running totals to date using Shadows selection method of 3,5,8 & 13 race order. Week 3 only includes odds of even's or better, as will my final week (4) starting tomorow. Stakes Returns PROFIT Yield Total Bets 144 Evens+> Week 3 £600.00 £811.76 £211.76 35.29% Average Bet £21.70 All Odds> Week 2 £1,450.00 £1,776.56 £326.56 22.52% Average Daily Bet £148.81 All Odds> Week 1 £1,075.00 £1,493.00 £418.00 38.88% Winning Bets 51 35% Daily Average £148.81 £194.35 £45.54 30.60% Totals £3,125.00 £4,081.32 £956.32 30.60% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Well i have actually began betting with this system using money. To limit risk's a little I am not rounding up the the nearest £5. This is day 3 and so far results are looking promising. From a bank of £200: Day 1 profit = £9.09 ( was a little nervous so only used small stakes) Day 2 profit = £44.78 Total profit = £53.87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Another good day. Day 3 profit = £23 Total profit = £76.87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Well done :clap good luck. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo7pne Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Hello guys. I have just been reading the whole thread and found this very interesting. After coming up with systems, and obviously failing. This looks quite interesting. How has it worked out for people? Furlong, I don't mean to be cheeky, and feel free to say no....but could I have a copy of the spreadsheet to gain a better understanding? e-mail is [email protected] Hope that is OK anyway. Will be sticking around here now after finding this. Very interested to see how it gets on. Thanks Simo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIJ Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help I've been following this too. Very nicely done so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Well lets hope for another good one 2day :hope Ill post the results later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Hey ktom. thanks for the analysis. But to limit the risk i am not rounding up to the nearest £5 and am not placing all the bets the system throws out. Judging from your analysis i am also going to stop betting after the 1st winner. From my 2 month spreadsheet I can see this reduces risk by alot while still providing a steady profit each day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KThom Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help stopping after a winner could potentially cause more problems. What your trying to avoid are the days where you have 8 selections and no winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help how many of thos are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KThom Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Two. But also several 6 and 7 same day dry streaks - hence the need for a strong heart and bank balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Hmmm i disagree with the need for a strong heart and bank balance as you can adjust the stake for a smaller bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help well another good day? Day 4 profit = £32.20 Total profit = £109.07 Just for the curious the largest bet I have placed so far has been £140 which was yesterday - still leaving me with a bank of £70 as the bank then stood at over £200. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KThom Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help How many is the most loosers in a day thou? It looks good on paper, but how happy would you be staking your whole bank on one days racing. Judging by pas results 200 won't get you very far as you're sure to hit a 4/5 consecutive loss at some stage. Betting smaller increments with a smaller bank just means you'll win and lose less - not prevent your bank being eroded. Still saying that - if you have a feeling for it then go for it, I just can't see you being in the black in a further 6 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help well another good day? Day 4 profit = £32.20 Total profit = £109.07 Just for the curious the largest bet I have placed so far has been £140 which was yesterday - still leaving me with a bank of £70 as the bank then stood at over £200. :) Well done again today but i am a little curious as to which races you were following because using the 3,5,8 & 13 selection method the only winner today was the 4.15 at Thirsk @ 5/4? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help yea your right mike, but as i wouldnt be in the house for the last race i bet another one just because i liked the sound of it... 7.20 Chepstow - Farmers wish @2.62 staked £14.58 and got £38.27 returned Today was an exception because If im in profit from the afternoon 4 races then i dont do the night ones. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KThom Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help What's the point in setting a system and then drifting from it willy nilly. You've already stated you don't round up to the nearest 5, you don't do the evening races, and you bet on some "you like the sound of". Sorry but there is no profitable system here. If you are going to publish profit results from the day - you at least need to state the races and stakes prior to the event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help yea your right mike, but as i wouldnt be in the house for the last race i bet another one just because i liked the sound of it... 7.20 Chepstow - Farmers wish @2.62 staked £14.58 and got £38.27 returned Today was an exception because If im in profit from the afternoon 4 races then i dont do the night ones. Adam Classic case of aftertiming that won't be welcome here. I nip in here from time to time just to see what the latest is being discussed and for the most part keep quiet. But this is just random loss chasing. If it was this easy everybody would be doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help What's the point in setting a system and then drifting from it willy nilly. You've already stated you don't round up to the nearest 5' date=' you don't do the evening races, and you bet on some "you like the sound of".[/quote'] Have to say that i agree KThom....seems pointless in keeping tabs on this one any longer so I wont be posting up any more test results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfman Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Hi Shadow/Furlong/KThom, Well what an interesting afternoon I have had trying to take all of that in... I can happily say I understand what you are all saying and I now realise that some of you have your doubts... Having said that I would be willing to test this out also with real money... We would all like to break the system at some stage and having tried my own systems with a few other friends and after reading this then this could possibly be the closest we are all going to get when it comes to making a daily profit from Horse Racing... If you would be so kind to forward the spreadsheet onto myself that would be most appreciated ([email protected])... I think if we all have a little go with smaller stakes maybe one of us will find the true way, it may just need a tweak here or there... Congrats Shadow on your wins so far, how has it gone since your last post? I would also like to thank you all for your time spent on these posts and let us all somehow make the system work!!! Regards, Gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowvkc Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 Re: system spreadsheet - help Hi wolfman. I have acutally taken the advice on here and stopped with my profit. Im currently working on a system which is not based on random races (lol kthom) It involves picking one horse for every meeting and then placing a special series of doubles, tripples and accumulators on them.. So far with stakes of just 0.03p i am up almost £5 :) so hopefully if this works out ill be back with a new thread explaining all - Death the the greedy bookies :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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